Cawood

so far on me RST i have bayjoo 195 chip (16psi), GRS I/C, pace rad, Magnex and K&N panel filter!

going to cam it up now i think

which do i go for? was looking at the piper 285 T2, reckon this one's best?

also if i buy this one can i use a Kent vernier pulley with it?

cheeRS

dave

Ginge !

yeah ya can use any adjustable pully for it

as for cam choice we need to know the turbo and the engine ya got to tell ya tbh, if its a efi and 1600 and standard t3 then a cvh35, if a t34 then a cvh36 ( all my opinion of course

the t2 cams aint actually as good as the normal 285 cam shaft tbh but then do suffer from early wear i was told ( so dont quote me !!)

hope that helps

Exeter J

IMHO the 285t2 pushes the power band a bit high in a road going RST. The 285 is possibly better - but think a kent might give you better mid range.

Ginge !

oh btw i got a piper 285t2 cam for sale if ya interested , i bought one for my old erst enigne and then with a little help from my friends i got another secret cam for me car

ya can have it for 70 quid , the lifters ya can have too but im suren ya not gonna want em

oh and buy the cam and followers seperate as whe ya buy the kits ya dont get double valve springs

morto

i have 285t2 and thay lift well late, as said the piper wear realy fast, i wud not buy kent or piper..speak to knorris first i think he can profile one for you

andzz

KSA-Cossie

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I've got a 285 t2 but fancy changing to a kent cvh 34 for more mid range power.

morto

i think the kent one .. the cv34 i think is profiled by ahmed, its done for best mid range

Daviet

was there not a thread before saying kent cams were crap
ive got a piper285t2 and same as most folk would like to change so have a bit more mid range pull but was under the impression that some of the kent ones arent to great
what are the newman cams like folk talk about.i know AVA use them alot

morto

do you no the lifespan of high lift cams... about 10.000 miles or less

andzz

Daviet

mines done a lot more than that
maybe ive just been lucky

morto

dave its about wear, when i first got my 285t2 you cud realy feel the diff, but a few years later its a diff story, and my venier was set up a few montyhs back by MSD i havent said this off the top of my head .. a well known tunner said it to me

andzz

Daviet

probably is fooked tbh
just thought u would here something when its goosed
dont doubt its not doing the same job as when first put in

Westy

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standard Cam

Cawood

cheers for the info everyone!

bal- that a new cam? or used?

so ideally stay away from kent and piper ones

i'd prefer mid range, dont fancy it pushing the power right up the rev range

what are these newman ones?

NUTTIN RILLA

Rev to the red, thats what their for

Cawood

oh shit forgot to tell you bout my engine

standard turbo and MFI no other work done to it

Cawood

i do, but still dont want all the power rite at the top

gus

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i shall be getting a custom cam from newman soon


will let you know when the engine is all back together and dynoed

sf

newman all the way,

Cawood

so where do i find out bout these newman ones?!??

how much? what sort of power gains and where bouts in the rev range?

sf

phone ava 0141 848 5257,

or www.newman-cams.co.uk

Cawood

Ginge !

ok lets be abit more helpfull, newman can only make you a cam if ya give em the profiles !!!!!!!

its a performance motor remember, 20k miles is alot for em !!!!, 10k miles i think will be worng but then with most rst's they seem to spend more time in the garage/workshop/broken down or just stuck away for the winter ( september to june usually then only used at weekends, even then ya just drive to southend and park up on the sea front and stroll in the arcade to play driving games )

who ever said avoid piper and kent is talking bollox as they been making cams for years !!!!!!,

just ya need to spec a cam to ya aplication !!!

like rudeys cam was spot on for his and his driving style, for youn unless ya wanna new turbo then tbh ya will get more gains from a brand new cam shaft !!!!

i looked into cams ect with the spec of my old engine and looked at all the things i wanted from a engine and a 285t2 is only good for a big bhp motor as otherwise with the lack of boost the car will feel laggy

trust me ive looked more into cams ect even more since i have the laggiest t34 cossie in the world

a performance cam would be better with a flowed head too, meaning more boost aswell

fit a brand new camshaft and tbh will feel like a performance cam as i bet ya cams already fooked anyway as most erst cams are, there all fooking old


so in a nut shell for ya aplication a standard cam unless ya dont mind a loss in performance or ya change ya spec


the standard cams aint that bad when new tbh, think it was james raby that was the first person to check and notice the difference

Cawood

ahh, cheers for all that b19bal,

so i should look into getting a standard cam, do you think i would see a bhp gain from that? as my motor has done 70k now so be getting pretty worn!

cheeRS

Ginge !

yes ya will notice a difference !!!!!

as ya said its done 70k miles, bound to be fooked imo

ya aint got a silly horse power car so a performance cam will move the power up the rev range and then ya gonna feel lag

JoeE30

Leave the std cam in, they are fine to 200+bhp

Ginge !

joe ya mean change for a standard cam !!!!!!

JoeE30

Is he running a std cam in it at the mo?/??

Im all confused?

If it has a std cam, stick a newun in it, but they are fine for over 200 hp

Ginge !

yeah he has got a high milage standard cam, thats why i sauid stick a newun in

JoeE30

I gotcha now......

I had a very very heavy night last night so leave me alone...

morto

ive also talked to alot of people about cams, nobody is sayin piper or kent or crap but thay or just of the shelf. i laso think the standard cam is very good when given alot of boost.. but performance cams do were very quick if i had to pick one it wud be the kent that was profiled by ahmed, just becus i no anythink he does is very good
my first 285t2 disintergrated and caused a load of damage, piper did do me a full refund as far as the 285t2 needing alot of boost is again debatable! i asked caslte performance this question and thay said you deff dont need high boost for this cam? even tho piper say you do

andzz

Ginge !

ok they say ya dont need high boost for this cam , its the reason why this cams comes on song proper

the 285t2 is a laggy cam as the power band is up higher, hence the need for big boost as a standard turbo will run out of puff too ealier to get the best use of the cam

morto

b19al, you no i had this same argument a few years ago , and i said what your sayin mate, but more people disagreed with me than agread, so thats when i picked the phone up and rang one of the main guys from castle and when he said you dont need high boost for this cam i had to admit defeat, but i run 17 psi with my 285t2 .. holdin aroun 14 psi

andzz

Ginge !

well try another car with the same spec but a say a cvh35 or even a 34 of ya cars pretty much a standard spec and see if theres a difference

i took my 285t2 cam out as i was recomended a better cam for it and done as my tuner told me

xfactor

I changed form a power engineering cam to a T2 on my old S2, the T2 was aweful to drive with so I quckly swapped back and the car felt a lot stronger.

Cawood

so we still going for standard cam for mine then?

i know this may sound stupid, but.... where do i get one from? does it have to be ford or do other manufactorers make standard spec cams for the ERST?

GrimmeRS2K

ive put my 130k standard cam back in on mine at the moment while it was running in, and to be be honest except from being a bit noisey, its seems fine and the car pulls just as good as when i had the kent 34 in.

New Standard cams are fine anyway.