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Old 10-03-2005, 07:13 PM
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HI GUYS I NEED TO KNOW WHO HAS OWNED THIS S2 FEATURE CAR IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS? CHEERS




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at least a couple off here
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WHY WHY WHY!

What good will it do? What do you thinks going to happen? What the hell do you want to happen?

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IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW
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WHY WHY WHY!

What good will it do? What do you thinks going to happen? What the hell do you want to happen?

is that all about???
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i think its someone called paul im not sure
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think i saw that or one very simalar on ebay a while back
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Foster owned it a while ago and was Helping Jim out with some infomation about the ownder between him --> Jim. So what's the problem???
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Its pointless! I think hes trying to find someone to blame for the poor condition that the cars in now. Even IF the previous owner knew all about the problems. It doesnt change the fact that Jim should have checked the car over properly and found these faults and then NOT bought it.
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It had tiger stripes on it on e-bay didn't it?
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sold as seen means nothing it just means that the boddy work and visual stuff is coverd but the engin and other stuff isnt coverd by sold as seen
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Rich is correct. If it did have problems should have got it checked by a pro. Why didn't he?
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Originally Posted by SteveRS1980
sold as seen means nothing it just means that the boddy work and visual stuff is coverd but the engin and other stuff isnt coverd by sold as seen
you reckon
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sold as seen means nothing it just means that the boddy work and visual stuff is coverd but the engin and other stuff isnt coverd by sold as seen
you sure,I thought it meant sold as seen,ie it's sold as seen.........

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In a private sale "Sold as Seen" means fucking everything!

Thats why its cheaper than at a dealer. Dealers are LEGALLY obligated to sell vehicles in a road worthy manner. Like I said in the other post. There is a civil case to go to IF you really want to piss thousands of pounds away to recover thousands of pounds. BUT you have to PROOVE that the previous owner knew about the faults. And lets be honest, hes not going to incriminate himself is he?

You kids are living in a fucking fantasy world.
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Originally Posted by Rich_w
Its pointless! I think hes trying to find someone to blame for the poor condition that the cars in now. Even IF the previous owner knew all about the problems. It doesnt change the fact that Jim should have checked the car over properly and found these faults and then NOT bought it.
JOG ON! sorry im not a Mechanic I cant see inside engines, I havent got X ray cat vision like Tom Green
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Thats all well and good.. But being a car that is 18 years old would definetly in my opinion warrant a full corrosion check TBH.. I have a D plate foostie and i was all over it to make sure it was okay.. At the end of the day Jim is just gonna have to bite the bullit and get it fixed..
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Im afraid rich is right
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Old 10-03-2005, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim
Im afraid rich is right
What do you know mate?
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You kids are living in a fucking fantasy world.
hope that wasn't meant for me mate,I was agreeing with you

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At the end of the day you should have had an AA inspection or similar before buying the car if you wanted peace of mind!

Either that or take a friend with you who really knows what he is looking for, this is the only sensible way to buy an old car if you are not an expert yourself.

Unfortunately for me, I follow my heart and buy a car that looks nice but costs me thousands in the end
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sold as seen is as such sold as you see it once you leave if your reciept states sold as seen you have no come back thats why its byer beware.


do feel sorry for jim thoe as the car does look good on the outside
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so whats wrong with it then
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Originally Posted by Phil
At the end of the day you should have had an AA inspection or similar before buying the car if you wanted peace of mind!

Either that or take a friend with you who really knows what he is looking for, this is the only sensible way to buy an old car if you are not an expert yourself.

Unfortunately for me, I follow my heart and buy a car that looks nice but costs me thousands in the end
I agree.. 80 or 90 quid sounds alot for a inspection but as we have seen here that it can possibly backfire spectacularly. TBH i have done it in the past when i was into me xr2i's.. just buying staright up then finding out there was no way the thing was gonna pass its MOT.
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i always put " sold as seen,tested and approved "
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Basically you were willing to spend Ł3700 on a car you hadnt checked over. How much is a AA check these days? couple of hundred? Would have been a good investment imho.

You're just going to have to live with a bad decision. Everyone makes them. My old man bought a right old heap of a Cavalier, my first XR2 was rotton to shit when I finally managed to get underneath it and have a decent look around. Neither of us started to hassle previous owners FFS!

If I was you I would spend the money getting the car fixed up then drive it for a year and see how you feel. I bet once its running fine again, it wont matter quite as much.
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From legal advise, 'sold as seen' only covers the body work or visably noticable problems...as I just mentioned. It does not cover the person that sells the car from things that you CAN NOT visably see...such as damage to the underneath of the car.

The car should not have passed the MOT which was issued last June, therefor whoever got the car MOT'ed back in June may not realise that he sold the car ilegally by selling with with a invalid MOT certificate. Jim is therefor fully entitled to return the car to the previous owner with a complete refund.
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i take it you bought the car on a sold as seen then went for a mot and it failed and now you are pissed that it failed and you think that the lad should have told you on the bad points, is that about it in a nutshell?
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how much is it gonna cost roughly to get the old girl repaired then?
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Originally Posted by SteveRS1980
From legal advise, 'sold as seen' only covers the body work or visably noticable problems...as I just mentioned. It does not cover the person that sells the car from things that you CAN NOT visably see...such as damage to the underneath of the car.

The car should not have passed the MOT which was issued last June, therefor whoever got the car MOT'ed back in June may not realise that he sold the car ilegally by selling with with a invalid MOT certificate. Jim is therefor fully entitled to return the car to the previous owner with a complete refund.
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Originally Posted by JimRS
Originally Posted by Tim
Im afraid rich is right
What do you know mate?
Whats with the fuckin
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Originally Posted by SteveRS1980
From legal advise, 'sold as seen' only covers the body work or visably noticable problems...as I just mentioned. It does not cover the person that sells the car from things that you CAN NOT visably see...such as damage to the underneath of the car.

The car should not have passed the MOT which was issued last June, therefor whoever got the car MOT'ed back in June may not realise that he sold the car ilegally by selling with with a invalid MOT certificate. Jim is therefor fully entitled to return the car to the previous owner with a complete refund.
Who's potentially going to enforce this for him.. The only way i can see this happening is taking the guy to court.. Would it not just be cheaper gettin the motor fixed??
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Originally Posted by SteveRS1980
From legal advise, 'sold as seen' only covers the body work or visably noticable problems...as I just mentioned. It does not cover the person that sells the car from things that you CAN NOT visably see...such as damage to the underneath of the car.
Get a better legal advisor! Getting under a car to have a look is the only marginally more difficult than looking in the boot.

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The car should not have passed the MOT which was issued last June, therefor whoever got the car MOT'ed back in June may not realise that he sold the car ilegally by selling with with a invalid MOT certificate. Jim is therefor fully entitled to return the car to the previous owner with a complete refund.
Well, maybe you're new to MOTs but the rule is something like "on the day of the inspection", also theres the clause something like "a valid MOT certificate does not mean the car is safe" (read the back of the cert.) Rot can set in very quickly depending on where a car is stored or used. The strains of having a very low stiff car are also well documented. And can manifest themselves at any time.

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i take it you bought the car on a sold as seen then went for a mot and it failed and now you are pissed that it failed and you think that the lad should have told you on the bad points, is that about it in a nutshell?
No, you are thinking well out of the nutshell...
The MOT is not due until June, which is why Jim knows it should not have passed in the forst place as rot does not appear within a few months, it would have been there from before the MOT was issued.
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Originally Posted by markyd3
how much is it gonna cost roughly to get the old girl repaired then?
no idea yet mate, just lookin in2 the legal side of things, i reckon tops....1500
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The car should not have passed the MOT which was issued last June
How can you tell that?
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Originally Posted by SteveRS1980
From legal advise, 'sold as seen' only covers the body work or visably noticable problems...as I just mentioned. It does not cover the person that sells the car from things that you CAN NOT visably see...such as damage to the underneath of the car.

The car should not have passed the MOT which was issued last June, therefor whoever got the car MOT'ed back in June may not realise that he sold the car ilegally by selling with with a invalid MOT certificate. Jim is therefor fully entitled to return the car to the previous owner with a complete refund.
unfortunately, if you check with ministry of transport, complaints about validity of MOT can only be up to 3 months after issue of MOT certificate.

private sale is sold as seen-unless you can prove that the seller knew of faults-so unless hes took it for pre-MOT etc within the last 3 months and YOU have the failure sheet then you haven't got a pot to piss in i'm afraid.

to be honest as said any 18 year old car with 3 months MOT left to run surely needs scrutineering properly before ANY cash exchanges hands.

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Originally Posted by SteveRS1980
From legal advise, 'sold as seen' only covers the body work or visably noticable problems...as I just mentioned. It does not cover the person that sells the car from things that you CAN NOT visably see...such as damage to the underneath of the car.
Get a better legal advisor! Getting under a car to have a look is the only marginally more difficult than looking in the boot.

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The car should not have passed the MOT which was issued last June, therefor whoever got the car MOT'ed back in June may not realise that he sold the car ilegally by selling with with a invalid MOT certificate. Jim is therefor fully entitled to return the car to the previous owner with a complete refund.
Well, maybe you're new to MOTs but the rule is something like "on the day of the inspection", also theres the clause something like "a valid MOT certificate does not mean the car is safe" (read the back of the cert.) Rot can set in very quickly depending on where a car is stored or used. The strains of having a very low stiff car are also well documented. And can manifest themselves at any time.

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Ummm maybe it is you that needs to check the MOT rules...
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Originally Posted by RST_lee
The car should not have passed the MOT which was issued last June
How can you tell that?
Well, they "just can" alright

Cant check a car over for Rat shit but have an intricate knowledge of what constitutes a MOT "failer"
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