accebers

Just wondered if anyone could help me out...

I bought a second hand Fiesta in August with tax due to run out at the end of December. After not receiving the logbook, I called the DVLA who told me that the car needed a VIC as it was previously written off (something I didn't know when I bought it). It has a current MOT and insurance and I am driving it, which is apparently fine, BUT in order to tax it, I need the logbook, which I can't get until I have a VIC.

I called to book an appointment yesterday and was told that my application hadn't been processed yet but there was one on Saturday and it would be no problem to get it done before the end of Dec. Called again today to book it - there are now no appointments until Jan.

All I have is the new keeper supplement which can only be used to tax it for 2 months after purchase. However, the letter from the DVLA says that records have been updated to show that the car is now registered to me. I can type in the new keeper supplement number online to tax the car, but it warns me that the tax disk may be sent to the previous owner - would this be the case if the car is now registered to me, even with out the logbook?

Are there any other options?!? I'm beginning to panic!

vaughant

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Who on earth told you the green slip can only be used 2 months after you buy the car?
As long as its not stamped you can use it whenever you like however after its stamped you may as well bin it as its useless.

DON'T panic,any p/o will tax that for you no probs at all,just take it in and say that's all you ever got with the car if they ask (which they won't),say your still waiting for the v5, your not lying in anyway.
my guess is that someone in the dvla told you all this and sadly the majority know fuck all there, they just read off a script.
Ive taxed my mothers car needing a VIC for the last 5 years,tax always turns up at her house with no issues.
Get it taxed,ignore the pub talkers as I've done this a million times.

accebers

Cheers! It's not stamped, so hopefully shouldn't be a problem. Thanks for the reassurance!

vaughant

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Anytime fella,the dvla are well known for scaremongering mate.

James @ M Developments.

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You can't tax it with a vic marker, that's how the trap works, any car that needs a vic will only be able to be used untill the tax runs out.at which point it shouldn't be able to be re taxed untill the marker has been removed. As far as I'm aware the post office will refuse to issue tax on it.

The v5 won't be issued untill the vic marker has come off, only then can you tax it.

Any that have been taxed probably don't have a vic marker

It's not pub talk, I used to do vic testing when I worked at vosa, and that's how the vic scheme is supposed to work. Many many cars that owners think need a vic test, and have a vic marker actually don't though!

botters

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agreed

vaughant

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Sorry James,that's not correct.
If you read my reply I tax my mothers car every year with a VIC marker on it,makes no odds whatsoever.
Also taxed my Cherokee at a p/o with a VIC marker on it with no issues whatsoever.
In fact I've probably taxed 10-15 cars this way,never even had this mentioned once.
Not doubting that's the way it should work at all but in the real world it doesn't,the only thing the post office zapper shows up is when it was last taxed/sorned.
I think in theory it should be that way so that when you get to the p/o it checks your mot/valid insurance etc against the mid database but it doesn't hence why I mentioned that I do this every year on my mothers car online as well.

The green slip is as valid on a VIC marked or a non VIC marked car,it can only be used once in theory,however that can also fall foul if the p/o don't stamp it!!!

Quite right regarding the v5 though,you won't get a new one until its VIC checked.

accebers

What if I used the number from the V5c online? I have a letter from the DVLA to say that I am the registered keeper - would it be sent to me if I did it that way?

tonysierra4x4

you can't tax online without renewal notice number or registration doc number. i failed to tax mine till vic done. i did not have the green slip with the car though. the vic is a moneymaking scam only as £45 at the time and tester opened bonnet looked at chassis number there only and passed it. didn't check below screen or alongside drivers seat.

James @ M Developments.

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You wouldn't say that if you had failed some of the cars I have while vic testing.
It's a visual inspection, so has many limits, but I fail to see how you know how or what is done, as the test is not allowed to be watched by law, and the testers have to sign the official secrets act to complete the tests, so nobody can find out what is actually done

tonysierra4x4

when i booked a test for a volvo v70 in local vosa station (haverfordwest) i transported car there on a trailer as it wasn't insured. i did not even remove it off the trailer or take it inside the testing station as it was done in the car park outside the building. the car had been in a flood so was not damaged in any way and looked as good as new. that though is surely not the point. some official secret. who broke the law in this case, me or the tester. in my one and only experience on this matter, i can say without any doubt in my mind, it is a money making scam.

James @ M Developments.

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The tester. that is not a vic test, and not carried out as it should be.

There is actually a special protocol to follow for flood damaged cars

tonysierra4x4

after 3 years of driving the car i am not too worried wether it was correct or not. didn't insure or mot the car before test as worried it would fail thinking it would be worse than an mot test. couldn't believe what actually happened but was happy the car was sorted. i had never had a vic before or since. incidently, i payed £1800 for car and used 3 years trouble free and sold it in the summer for £2150. still a cat c but nothing wrong with car. could you tell me what should have happened.

James @ M Developments.

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I'm not allowed, but its a visual check of the cars Id, following a strict routine and method.
There are several stages depending on what has been found. And can go on to include age identifying components
It's not a test to fear, it doesn't check cars safety like the mot at all, simply " is this car what It says it is on the v5 and is the Id correct"

tonysierra4x4

cheers mate. don't think i'll need another one but never say never.

vaughant

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Have you just tried taxing it via the green slip at a p/o?
I've never had any bother,lots of scaremongering going on here.
Also 100% agree with tonysierra,it's a total moneymaking scam and I've never sat for more than 5 mins in a VIC test.
Credit to you for trying to be by the book James but the reality is a million miles away ,it's a complete scam and another money making excuse.

tonysierra4x4

thanks vaughant. i'm glad someone else agrees. i have only ever had one vic so didn't know what to expect. sounds like you have had more vic's than me so therefore more experience to give opinion. still though op needs to tax his car and so apologies that this thread has gone in a different direction.

James @ M Developments.

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If it was a scam none would ever fail, and they do. I've had two fail and be taken away by the police for investigation, one was destroyed I believe as it was a ringer,

If the test only takes 5 mins, then it means it was a legit car and the Id matched and didn't need any time investigating there is still a process to be completed,
There is also a fair bit of paperwork to do behind the scenes as well as removing the vic marker etc etc.

They are not all like that some take quite a while, especially cat a and bs,

It's a little narrow minded saying its a scam as yours was easy,
it's just like saying the mot is a scam because your car passed in 25 minutes. That doesn't mean the next test through the door won't take an hour and be a shitter though

Try taking a ringer in for a vic, you may be there quite a while and be escorted away by the police. Would that justify the cost to you?

tonysierra4x4

i can see your point. in my case the car was just over 4 years old and not a scratch on it anywhere. as for flood damage the carpets were not even damp and only had engine damage. still a cat c. i also accept the fee i payed was a small percentage of what the car was worth. i presume if it had been an old banger more time would have been spent which is what you are saying as i read it.

James @ M Developments.

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And depending on what happens during the text procedure you may need to look further, do more looking, search for certain Id tags, it depends on how the test goes and what's found.

Ask any vic tester, they will tell you if you ever have to turn the inspection form over onto page 2, it's time to put the kettle on as it takes a little while when it goes that way.

If its a good one, page 1, job done.

But who knows what you will find? Or what the test will be on? I did a vic test on a 1970s land rover that had about 6 chassis changes and 3 new bodies, try tracing and verifying that Id in five minutes lol.

vaughant

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Like I said earlier James its good too see how professional you are at your work (I even mentioned it in your for sale thread!!!), but I have taken quite a few cars to the VIC centre and honestly never seen them spend more than 10 minutes(being really generous) checking the car out.
I watched a few in fact and it was literally open bonnet,check vin (most of which had been reattached due to accident damage),quick check of numbers (and I MEAN a quick check as in 45 seconds) and we're away!!
Point taken that when your in the game a while you can spot something naughty a mile off but perhaps down in sleepy Wales their not quite as strict,surprisingly though as Swansea was one of the car crime hotspots of the last 20 years

accebers

Done with the new keeper's slip, no problems! Cheers for the advice.

vaughant

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Glad it worked out for you, we should make this thread a sticky to dispell the many myths regarding VIC testing and taxing.