Bailes1992

My brake discs are shot. 107,000miles and they are desperatley in need of replacement.

There currentley genuine Ford brake pads on the car which are less than 1/4 worn. (The dealership that done the pads last brought the discs to the attention of the lease company but they chose not to have them replaced)

I was going to buy a full mintex kit off ebay to do the front and rear brakes.

Thing is it seems a shame to waste the fairly new ford brake pads that are on there.

Is there any reason that I couldn't clean up the ford brake pads and use them again with the new discs and keep the new mintex pads safe until the ford ones are nackered?

Or am I being tight and should just replace the lot?

bailes.

3drzetec

if theres that much on the pads id clean and reuse them. seems a waste other wise.

Mechrepairs

I would replace the lot as the pad will have worn to the contours of the old disc, if you re use them you will find the pads may not cover all of the swept area of the new disc, over time it will make the replacement disc's corrode, making them worn out in no time at all ESP this time of year with the wet weather.

Carl

smudger068

dont be a pirate!! change the lot
keep pads as a spare just incase but if its all new then change it all

stevieturbo

Dont worry about it. The old pads will wear to the new discs in a few days. It certainly wont cause any problems short term or long term

Cossy Mike

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New discs will eat your old pads at first.......but why not change them? pads aren't that much to buy

STeve

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Stop being a scrooge, all or dont bother

dojj

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It's "the few days" that are the problem

New discs will be flat
New pads will be flat
Flat and flat tend to make a good team
Flat disc and curvy pads (and don't forget you've got 4 surfaces to consider here) don't get one as well
The higher spots in the pads will also make it easier to warp the. Rs discs as the temperatures won't be even across the metal

stevieturbo

Some people think wayyyy too much into things. It's not like he's driving an F1 car.

What next, you'll all be saying never fit brand new pads to old discs ? Exactly the same thing, and perfectly normal practice.

saph4be

Speaks sense unless the old pads are clearly fucked ie scores to death can't see no reason why not!

Bailes1992

I will take a picture of my current discs tommorow, they are quite pitted and the fronts have rust on them where the pad clearly isn't making contact.
I will let you all decide when you see the picture I think.

The Youth.

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dojj is right steve

if you refit the old pads then drive the car the pad will not fully contact the disc due to the high and low spots, by the time they pad has worn down to match the disk the damage could well be done

steve

vaughant

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Hard to say really but if their not too expensive change for new standard ford ones,wouldn't bother with minted etc.
If there not too bad don't worry,as said above I do it vice versa all the time,never had an issue.

The Youth.

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ok fit the old pads then drive 5 miles and then take a photo of the disk and post it on here you will be shocked a guarantee
it!!
your braking effiency will also be reduced dramatically aswell

steve

The Youth.

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new pads can bed into used disks quickly disks take much much longer to bed into pads!!

steve

stevieturbo

You guys really must be joking, or have never worked around too many cars. Guess my new £600 discs on my car must be fucked now after using old pads on them !!! Oh noooo, what will I do ?? Mmmm just drive with them as normal because they're perfectly fine maybe ?

Brake discs arent made of glass you know, they arent super fragile as you seem to be making out.

Of course the other question is...how much are new pads ?

cos 4x4

If car is a lease car then why are you changing them?

The Youth.

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as ive said in my other post let him fit them and drive 5 miles then take a pic for us all to see

steve

Fudgey

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you lot are joking, right?

replace discs and job done.

replace discs and pads and job err, done lol

gordyshreds

Normal use road car, just change the discs and if old pads in good order then leave them be! If it was a track or race car then do the lot. All I'm my opinion.

Cosnada

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A pad change is a pad change. If I replace discs then its new pads to match. Can't go wrong with that little rule - even if it is £20 more - do the right thing not the economical thing.

xr2wishy

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well, in theory the pads will wear into the new discs eventually.
personally i have tried this only once to see if it had to be done, i ended up with mega hot discs on the edges and lots of noise.
so that is that IMO, i always change the pads with new discs, but not the discs with the pads all the time.

Glenn_

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Just fit discs and pads new all round.

Rogeyboy

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I personally have replaced disks without pads, and didnt notice any loss of brake performance... Just give the old pads a quick lick over with sandpaper to even them out.

I know its not ideal and is often frowned upon by people, but i had a 10% worn set of £100 pads and i wanted to upgrade to drilled discs, so i done it with the old pads and it was fine.. If we was talking about a £20-30 set of pads i'd have just renewed them aswell!

If you really dont want to spend out on new pads then just re-use the old ones...

St3V3_C

I would use the mintex pads from the kit and save the used ones for Justin.

Never know, you might not have the car by the time they wear out lol.

And at least you know there is no chance of fucking up the new discs.

Fudgey

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as above, just give them a rub on some emery cloth/coarse sandpaper. thats all i do if just replacing discs

dojj

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If the pads aren't clearing the whole disc they may well be fucked as well

How often do you check the pads for signs that they are all intact? If the pad breaks up because it's got too hot then you will be in an even worse position

Remove the pads, inspect them to see that they are all good, if they appear to be in serviceable condition and you don't want to change them then rub the faces with emery paper to give them a clean surface to clamp onto and stick them back in

Just take pics of everything before and after so we can see what's what

After all is said and done, it's all about safety and if you are skimping on safety then......

They may be fine mind

dojj

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mintex tend to be the hardest pads so if they wear wrong your discs will be fucked

Bailes1992

Had a look at my discs and it was pointless asking this question.
The disc is scored and pitted on the outer 1/4. Think changing the pads & discs is the best thing to do.
I should have really had the bloody things off over the summer and got this sorted but I been too scared just incase I break anything, but I don't trust a garage to do it either! It's about time I grew some balls and gave the car a major service and sort the brakes out.
I've been so worried about breaking it I took it to Ford for an oil change which emptied me of £90. I could have done it myself for £30

Also Ford Pads & Discs...
Front Pads - £53.31
Rear Pads - £36.84
Front Discs - £90.06
Rear Discs -£81.88

Total = £262.09
Total +vat = £314.51

Pagid Discs & Pads...
Front Pads - £44.34inc VAT
Rear Pads - £37.80inc VAT
Front Discs - £81.48inc VAT
Rear Discs - £82.80inc VAT

Total inc VAT = £245.82

Mintex Discs & Pads...
Rear Discs & Pads kit - £73.99inc VAT
Front Discs & Pads kit - £82.50inc VAT

Total inc VAT - £156.49

Plus I got to buy a Caliper wind back tool. Think I'll buy a decent one though as I will probably use it a fair few times so wont count the cost of that but it will be about £50.

dojj

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if it's for the mondeo in your sig, i'm pretty sure that they have one winding back one way and the other the other way on the rear calipers

j6kyt

do it properly and replace the lot, only a bodger would use old pads on new discs.

mk22door

Don't buy Mintex from e-bay!

Some cheap ass chinese firm bought the rights to teh name and they will be shite.

If you can find Mintex UK then they should be the propper job.

stevieturbo

Ahh, so that's why everyones discs in this thread are getting fucked so easily. They're buying paper mache discs off egay lol

Bailes1992

You sure thats not rubbish?
My girlfriend bought mintex off ebay for her KA and it all looked genuine and good quality to me?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Monde...item3cbba59ca7

Also the guys on 406oc.co.uk have all bought mintex on ebay with no issues? Infact thats what they reccomend?

STeve

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I just bought a set from ebay for the ZS and they were the real McCoy, I even rang the supplying motorsport company to verify prior to purchase as I thought they were too cheap, now fitted thanks to Kitchen devils magic snap on sockets due to rounded off bolts its happy days

jameswrx

I'm actually surprised some of you guys were saying to use the old pads when he said the old discs were in a condition that requires them to be changed. I think people imagine the pads really soft and just wearing flat on new discs. Pads wear discs at quite a surprising rate.

If a set of discs are bad enough to need replacing new pads should be fitted. If you fitted pads to new discs that have been on knackered discs you'd end up with premature disc wear on your new ones, small ridges, curvature etc.

ajamesc

There is no problem at all with fitting old pads to new discs if there not worn out lol why waste a set of pads with life in them for no reason just dumb!

black_jack

This has polarised the posters on this thread!

Years ago i would have stuck the "old but with some meat left on them" pads back on - i might have got a few pads wear out of a pair of discs - now the discs/ pads seem to war at a similar rate, and by the time ive worn a set of pads out - the discs need changing too

The old pads are unlikely to have worn evenly - some may have more meat than others and by the time the pads have "bedded in" they are liable to be thinner
by the time you factor in the time taken to fit the discs and part- worn pads, on balance, with a set of front pads only costing about forty quid, i would not bother fitting a set of used pads to new discs

If i had to pay a mechanic/ garage to do it i would supply new pads/ discs, no question

if the pads cost a lot more than that - it might be different but at that price i would fit new pads - otherwise it would be false economy - you can always keep the old pads for next time

alexno1dj

Yes ! you will be fine cleaning up the pads, i really don't know what people on here are on about. Ive done this practice for years with my cars and never had any issues at all, sometimes replaced discs and kept older pads prior to an MOT and braking was fine. . Jesus, why spend money for no reason.