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Old 26-10-2012, 05:47 AM
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Come on guys get your pics sent in, im the only one so far lol
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Guess and payment and picture sent Dave, I sent it through paypal ok.

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Guess and payment and picture sent Dave, I sent it through paypal ok.

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Thanks joe

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I bet you say that to everyone Dave lol
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Get your money out then Danny I'm not revealing turbo but to let you know if your only getting just over 700bhp from a t04z ya doing something drastic wrong

Lol at you jimbo!!!

How many engines have you done over 700 hp on pump fuel then??

Im being serious here too as i havnt heard of many??

Also another serious question how many of these engines that you get over 700 hp on pump fuel actually last more than 5 minutes before they fall apart??


Did you manage to get rods engine to stay together at over 600 hp with out falling apart or is he still running less power??

And what did actually happen to your last engine dave? and what did you salvage from the one before that?

All questions serious non argumentative ones as id just like to know??



cheers danny
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Originally Posted by 750hp escos
Lol at you jimbo!!!

How many engines have you done over 700 hp on pump fuel then??

Im being serious here too as i havnt heard of many??

Also another serious question how many of these engines that you get over 700 hp on pump fuel actually last more than 5 minutes before they fall apart??


Did you manage to get rods engine to stay together at over 600 hp with out falling apart or is he still running less power??

And what did actually happen to your last engine dave? and what did you salvage from the one before that?

All questions serious non argumentative ones as id just like to know??



cheers danny
Four I beleive.

All of them last fine untill they crack blocks.
Rod birleys cracked the block and didn't want to pay for us to put a new block on it. So he got mr quaife to pay for the repair at jeff Paige's which is when it properly let go, so before having a dig, understand what actually happened.

We havnt had a engine let go other than through installation or cracking the block and causing issues, which they do at around 600lbft, you will find this out if your engine truely gets there.

Daves engine was fine, it had the dry sump system incorrectly fitted which led to further proplems when cylinders are filled with oil, so we are now going through it for him ready for his new season out
His previous engine was fine, it cracked the block and was put onto an ally one

Any other question/attempts at digs?

Jim

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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Four I beleive.

All of them last fine untill they crack blocks.
Rod birleys cracked the block and didn't want to pay for us to put a new block on it. So he got mr quaife to pay for the repair at jeff Paige's which is when it properly let go, so before having a dig, understand what actually happened.

We havnt had a engine let go other than through installation or cracking the block and causing issues, which they do at around 600lbft, you will find this out if your engine truely gets there.

Daves engine was fine, it had the dry sump system incorrectly fitted which led to further proplems when cylinders are filled with oil, so we are now going through it for him ready for his new season out
His previous engine was fine, it cracked the block and was put onto an ally one

Any other question/attempts at digs?

Jim

As i said wasnt digs mate but i knew you guys had done a few big power ones that i had heard had let go so thought id ask the truth instead of spilling all the bullshit that i did hear..


I did have a true 600 lb ft before if you or the old man believe it or not?
It did 578 lb ft on joes dyno and actually had less on the dd rr un till it was trimmed up and cam timing played with more..

That block is still going strong and in sonic booms 3 door doing 531 lb ft with a smaller turbo than i had.


I had a t4 0z as you know and the most we see on pump was 642 hp but i was giving hp away for lb ft for a no lag power delivery and was still only 2.0 ltr..


The tall block theory similar to martins but with wet liners should stop the cracking that has been experienced with over 700 hp as the revs wont be needed as much to get there and this should help with harmonics...

Thats what im hoping for anyway!!lol..


Any way no digs just genuine questions as i heard loads of shit about rods and a couple of others and actually didnt believe the most of it ..


cheers danny
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Originally Posted by 750hp escos


Any way no digs just genuine questions as i heard loads of shit about rods and a couple of others and actually didnt believe the most of it ..


cheers danny
I have to say that if they weren't digs then you have a funny way of putting things Danny
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Hi Martin

Long time no speak !!,, How are you mate??

You gonna have a guess lol
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Originally Posted by jacko996
Hi Martin

Long time no speak !!,, How are you mate??

You gonna have a guess lol
I'm all good Dave, cheers I haven't read the thread what are we guessing about?
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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
I have to say that if they weren't digs then you have a funny way of putting things Danny

Hey we all have things put to us in one way or another mate?

We all have doubters and we all have people talking shit about us?

If i have a question il ask it?

Jimbo put it to me in a way that because i didnt have over 700 hp i was doing something wrong..

I asked the questions back to ask how many they have seen do that much and stay together..

The answers i got were what i expected!! not many and then yes the blocks crack!!

I had 60 or so less hp but guess what my block is still going strong now in another car and was built back in 05..


Id say a good reliable 650-700 drivable horses in the right car with a good driver is all thats needed and tbh i think you proved your engine to do just that...hence why im trying the same sort of principles as you did but with all the latest best bits i can buy to achieve it..


Id rather have 700 reliable horses than 800 horses that just keep failing..


Any way martin hows the firenza coming on?


cheers danny
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Originally Posted by 750hp escos

Id rather have 700 reliable horses than 800 horses that just keep failing..


Any way martin hows the firenza coming on?


cheers danny
Mine will have a reliable 800+hp when it sees the road again

Firenza is getting closer but its all the little bits that's taking the time, I want it perfecto!
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Reliable meaning not Cosworth at that level to be Cosworth Guessing the engine starts with an LS
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Reliable meaning not Cosworth at that level to be Cosworth Guessing the engine starts with an LS
No but it will have twice as many cylinders and valves than a YB.
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Narrowing it down there Konigsegg? I dunno
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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
Mine will have a reliable 800+hp when it sees the road again

Firenza is getting closer but its all the little bits that's taking the time, I want it perfecto!

So the escort is coming back?? Awesome!! and 800 hp? very nice..

When will all this be done mate and why not just put a viper engine in there and super charge it and twin turbo it?lol


cheers danny
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Originally Posted by 750hp escos
So the escort is coming back?? Awesome!! and 800 hp? very nice..

When will all this be done mate and why not just put a viper engine in there and super charge it and twin turbo it?lol


cheers danny
The Escort is 100% coming back, engine, gearbox and front diff are the only things that have been sold.
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Originally Posted by 750hp escos
As i said wasnt digs mate but i knew you guys had done a few big power ones that i had heard had let go so thought id ask the truth instead of spilling all the bullshit that i did hear..


I did have a true 600 lb ft before if you or the old man believe it or not?
It did 578 lb ft on joes dyno and actually had less on the dd rr un till it was trimmed up and cam timing played with more..

That block is still going strong and in sonic booms 3 door doing 531 lb ft with a smaller turbo than i had.


I had a t4 0z as you know and the most we see on pump was 642 hp but i was giving hp away for lb ft for a no lag power delivery and was still only 2.0 ltr..


The tall block theory similar to martins but with wet liners should stop the cracking that has been experienced with over 700 hp as the revs wont be needed as much to get there and this should help with harmonics...

Thats what im hoping for anyway!!lol..


Any way no digs just genuine questions as i heard loads of shit about rods and a couple of others and actually didnt believe the most of it ..


cheers danny
Originally Posted by 750hp escos
Hey we all have things put to us in one way or another mate?

We all have doubters and we all have people talking shit about us?

If i have a question il ask it?

Jimbo put it to me in a way that because i didnt have over 700 hp i was doing something wrong..

I asked the questions back to ask how many they have seen do that much and stay together..

The answers i got were what i expected!! not many and then yes the blocks crack!!

I had 60 or so less hp but guess what my block is still going strong now in another car and was built back in 05..


Id say a good reliable 650-700 drivable horses in the right car with a good driver is all thats needed and tbh i think you proved your engine to do just that...hence why im trying the same sort of principles as you did but with all the latest best bits i can buy to achieve it..


Id rather have 700 reliable horses than 800 horses that just keep failing..


Any way martin hows the firenza coming on?


cheers danny

Danny your first post came across massively as a dig, and not questioning, hence why I go all defensive, if they were questions then you need to word things differently

Right, my comment on the t04z was ment to come across as 700bhp on a t04z is sailing, the most we have seen is 720 at 8000rpm at 29/30psi on pump fuel and a lump more on race.

That turbo is awesome, and flows more than the compressor map would lead you to beleive in my experience

Anyway hopefully you will have good luck with your new engine and not have any issues we are with the block.
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Danny your first post came across massively as a dig, and not questioning, hence why I go all defensive, if they were questions then you need to word things differently

Right, my comment on the t04z was ment to come across as 700bhp on a t04z is sailing, the most we have seen is 720 at 8000rpm at 29/30psi on pump fuel and a lump more on race.

That turbo is awesome, and flows more than the compressor map would lead you to beleive in my experience

Anyway hopefully you will have good luck with your new engine and not have any issues we are with the block.

Ok well sorry to sound bitchy!!

Well im hoping the tall block will mean less peak revs needed to achieve the 700 hp and then less harmonics and the girdle to stop any main cap movement..

I honestly think it will work and as im not asking massive power(over700 hp)i think it will stay in one piece..

Only time will tell i suppose?

Have you got any other tall blocks in the alloy variety running yet?

And what do you think of them?


cheers danny
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Yes we have done a bit with them, like you say time will tell what's what with them.
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Originally Posted by 750hp escos
Hey we all have things put to us in one way or another mate?

We all have doubters and we all have people talking shit about us?

If i have a question il ask it?

Jimbo put it to me in a way that because i didnt have over 700 hp i was doing something wrong..

I asked the questions back to ask how many they have seen do that much and stay together..

The answers i got were what i expected!! not many and then yes the blocks crack!!

I had 60 or so less hp but guess what my block is still going strong now in another car and was built back in 05..


Id say a good reliable 650-700 drivable horses in the right car with a good driver is all thats needed and tbh i think you proved your engine to do just that...hence why im trying the same sort of principles as you did but with all the latest best bits i can buy to achieve it..


Id rather have 700 reliable horses than 800 horses that just keep failing..


Any way martin hows the firenza coming on?


cheers danny
Your missing one vital thing Danny, TUV approved dyno

Interesting info though from you and Jim
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Your missing one vital thing Danny, TUV approved dyno

Interesting info though from you and Jim
Bingo! Just use a rolling road, we've 700bhp race engines making in on 800 in Scotland, makes for happy customers
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Bingo! Just use a rolling road, we've 700bhp race engines making in on 800 in Scotland, makes for happy customers

For all big spec engines iv ever been involved in iv always used a superflow dyno ..very similar to your old mans mate then once in stalled in car checked on rollers..


cheers danny
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Originally Posted by 750hp escos
For all big spec engines iv ever been involved in iv always used a superflow dyno ..very similar to your old mans mate then once in stalled in car checked on rollers..


cheers danny
Only way to do things. The figs that came from the dd rollers in Scotland made us all laugh and the operator swore blind they're right
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Only way to do things. The figs that came from the dd rollers in Scotland made us all laugh and the operator swore blind they're right
Oh really?? i didnt know..

What power figs ? any info anywhere?


cheers danny
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Not on net, gave just over 700 on race at ours, he had issues with boost and it gave 730 at 27 psi... Then near on 800 at 33 when ey got boost right, hence why I always take figures from any with a pinch of salt, the problem is some seem bang on, it's varies hugely!
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Originally Posted by jacko996
Nice one Andy, many thanks mate

dave@infinityemb.co.uk

I will get some ticket numbers sorted and email them to you for confirmation

I've sent the money as a gift through paypal (from Gregory), and an email with my guess, good luck with the next season
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[quote=J1mbo;6077671]Not on net, gave just over 700 on race at ours, he had issues with boost and it gave 730 at 27 psi... Then near on 800 at 33 when ey got boost right, hence why I always take figures from any with a pinch of salt, the problem is some seem bang on, it's varies hugely![/qu


Iv only ever had good results with the dd rrs ive seen and used although always thought the 4x4s on some cars come a couple of % over..

Ask the guy what hes at and it say on the graph as that can make them read wrong?


cheers danny
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Originally Posted by gjh
I've sent the money as a gift through paypal (from Gregory), and an email with my guess, good luck with the next season
Hey Greg

Thanks for the guess mate, and the support

Thought for a second there we were back to the competition, and not all the blurb about who and who cant do what lol
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You only have till Saturday guys to have a guess
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Had a guess

Good luck for the coming season Dave
your a Top bloke and a serious piss head lol
Catch up with you next show season
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Why did danny end up banned ?
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I dont know bud? Shame tho, i like Danny :-(
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I dont know bud? Shame tho, i like Danny :-(
Me too he's helped me out so much.
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Rich you got his mobile number mate? My one dont seem to work?
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Rich you got his mobile number mate? My one dont seem to work?
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Thanks pal ...


Hows the competition going Dave?
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It hasn't gone that well to be honest Doug

But hey ho, more chance for the guys that have entered


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