TIFF

My E60 530d is returning about 28mpg round town with stopping and starting, but on a run it gets to 38-40mpg quickly....

TIFF

Simon is superb, really good service and a top guy.....knows these BMW's inside out....You wont go far wrong buddy.

Minirotty

So far, only 4 days in, and 500 miles I have averaged 40mpg on 50/50 M-way and town roads, I am chuffed with that lol

TIFF

They munch the miles with ease mate

Minirotty

Tiff mate, what and where are the Swirl Flaps?

Been hearing some horror stories about them and want to remove them as you stated ASAP.

TIFF

swirl flaps are on the intake of the engine.....take a look

http://www.bmwswirlflaps.co.uk/

Minirotty

Thanks mate.

Minirotty

Just ordered them Tiff, will change as soon as they arrive.

TIFF

Good man......Tick them off the list.

Have you checked the running temps yet???

Minirotty

I haven't yet mate na.

I spoke to that company I purchased the blanks off of this morning, they say they don't know what size blanks I need and that I need to remove the inlet just to check and confirm size before I can confirm to them, frustrating, so Sunday I'll have to remove it, just to put it back on again!

Not checked temps yet, but showing I am in need of a DPF Filter? got to look into that one.

Also booked into BMW on the 1st for recall on battery wire to be sorted out.

TIFF

If i was you i would get the DPF removed and mapped out....good time to get more power and MPG too....

Got to get mine in for the battery recall issue, how long have they said it will take and what does it involve??

Minirotty

How much am I looking at to get the PDF removed and mapped mate?

Theres a lad local to me into his BMW's and he told my wife today to let me know it'd be 200 quid for a remap, as he's taking his in too.

BMW dealer said if I waited, around an hour, but as the dealer is only 5 minutes from where I work, I am dropping it off 8am and collecting lunch time.

Minirotty

Tiff, did you remove your flaps yourself?

As the guide on the BMW form/supplier is shit

I gbot every bolt and nut undone that I could find, and the fucker still wasn't coming off!

All that and just to check what size I need and now can't even order um pmsl will have to ask for refund.




Bit pissed, will have to look at having the company fit um depending on how far away it is.

TIFF

Mine have all ready been done when i got the car...thank god,lol

Deffo get them done though mate

Minirotty

Will do mate, I'll give the company a call tomorrow, depending on how far away they are I'll get booked in.

Mark_

DPF's are a fricking nightmare Kev, Get rid of it asap!

Minirotty

Booked into PMW in Essex for Monday mate, give up on the idea of trying to remove them myself.




I will when I can mate, first thing is to get the flaps removed tbh.

Minirotty

The car spent the day in BMW today and had the recall issue sorted.

BMW spanners were imnpressed with it and said it's a good example from what they usualy see being dropped in, was nice to hear.

iansoutham

Kev, speak to Phil before Monday and see if his mate Darren who does some remaps can do you one for this one. He lives in Grain, so not too far away from where you will be.

He did one for a friend who had a 530D M-Sport on a 2007 model and the fuel economy went from 38mpg to 52mpg and if you turned the TC right off (hold button for 3 seconds) it lit the rear tyres in 1st and 2nd on the autobox in the dry (as Phil will testify to as passenger )

Minirotty

Monday is all planned now mate, going to Essex then Kent to sort some cams out then some where else in kent to get Pikey Van's bonnet from a mates then back to Essex to get Dry Sump for L2 lol

Need to get my DPF removed before a remap any way mate.

Mark_

Ill keep an eye out on the M25 for you flying past me, lol

dave_s2_rst

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Let us know how you get on with pmw, I need to book mine in for swirl flaps with the guys.

Minirotty

Went to PMW bud. Long day yesterday as went to PMW Essex, then Kent Cam, then me mates in Kent collect a bonnet, then back to Essex and collect my dry sump kit lol


Some pics -



Examples of damage the flaps have done to others -









And three like mine at PMW







And one at Kent Cam lol




Sounds better now as well

CossieRich

iTrader: (1)

Are you getting PMW to do the remap?

Minirotty

Tempted to but there a mission from me an would need to wait 6 hours.

Going to speak to a few people in Birmingham first.

Minirotty

Can answer now, no lol

Just spoke with TipTop Performance in Birmingham, recommended by James @ MSD as I saw his remap of a 3 series in projects area and PM'd him.

Not booked in yet, but he only needs a couple of days notice, hopefully next week

dave_s2_rst

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Hi mate,

How long did the guys take to fit the blanks at PMW?

Cheers

Minirotty

Two hours mate.

dan le moignan

I don't think you have to fit the blanks? Myne were just removed, cost £120.
I had the MSD remap and the car went well, but the exhaust tips got fairly sooty where as prior they were always completely clean.

Minirotty

I suppose you can dismantle the swirl flaps and refit but to have the CNC'd blanks fitted / supplied cost me about £160 so was happy with that.

dan le moignan

Yes that's what I had done. Didn't notice any difference in mpg/ power.
Have you checked you have the vortex crankcase breather rather than the older loo roll type?.
I also had the gearbox oil and sump filter changed on the gearbox and the car was noticeably smoother after, but its pricey at about £500

Minirotty

Not checked for the voretx yet bud.

List of this yet to do lol

Diff and gearbox oil change.

Engine oil change.

DPF removed and remapped.

dan le moignan

When you have the gearbox open there is also an updated mechatronics sleeve that is worth fitting, I think it runs 3 o' rings rather than 2 or something. As these can leak and let gearbox oil into the electrical plug. They are cheap and add next to nothing extra to the price.

Minirotty

That same for Manual box bud?

dan le moignan

Don't think so, auto only, take it yours is manual?

Minirotty

Yeah mate got the manual version, couldn't do BMW estate and Auto in one hit lol

Vann1992

That's a lot of car for 5k! Enjoy!

CossieRich

iTrader: (1)

When PMW replace the swirl flaps they check what type of crankcase breather you have and also clean the egr valve. If they didnt say anything then you must have the vortex crankcase breather already like mine had.

Minirotty

Good to know mate cheers!

Andy_R

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Excellent thread, nice looking cars in darker paint, for some reason silver isn't doing it for me, seems to make the lines of the car stand out too much.

I'm seriously considering a later E60 had been looking at the 535d but finding a later 08 onwards thats fully loaded with lower miles is proving aukward. So most likely going to be a 530d.
Can anyone tell me what the change was that happened around 57plates which takes power from 218bhp to 235bhp.
Also do these 57(ish) onward cars need the swirlflaps done too? Do the 535D's need swirlflaps done.
Also the heads up display; i've seen on clips on youtube where info is displayed on the windscreen, is this an option? or simply a setting. Any other info and advice appreciated.