General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

head problem

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-10-2012, 06:07 PM
  #1  
mattyrs1
15000
Thread Starter
 
mattyrs1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ferryside s,wales
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default head problem

hi guys I need bit of advice i had problems with my head a year ago it started tapping, when we took rocker cover off one of the lifters were stuck when we managed get it out it scored the hole, I got a new recon head and new kent cam plus new oil pump, we had trouble getting oil pressure up on first startup , then once running it did about 50 miles tidy driving and same again one of the lifters got stuck scoring the head and fucked the new cam, what would be causing this? I have since had the bottom end rebuilt it wasnt knackerd but wernt preety, the head getting fitted this weekend so im just bit worried it going to happen again, any ideas guys?
Old 02-10-2012, 06:48 PM
  #2  
LHD220Turbo
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (4)
 
LHD220Turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: swindon, wiltshire
Posts: 10,654
Received 18 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

do you have an oil pressure gauge in the car before it was rebuilt? it could have been a duff oil pump - have you used a new pump in the rebuild?

before starting this time, build oil pressure by spinning the drive in the dizzy
Old 02-10-2012, 06:55 PM
  #3  
mattyrs1
15000
Thread Starter
 
mattyrs1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ferryside s,wales
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hi , I got oil gauge in the car i lost bit of pressure first time, it was a genuine ford oil pump but it looked worn my mate said, so bought a burton uprated one for the second time, but have read bad things about them, there is a new one on there again now , I will tell my mate to do what you said, just gutted as that was a brand new kent cam in it last time
Old 02-10-2012, 07:02 PM
  #4  
coswurv
PassionFord Post Troll
iTrader: (8)
 
coswurv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: oxford
Posts: 3,478
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Are you on about a yb or cvh, i think cvh so you cant gain oil pressure from spinning the dizzy drive, i would just make sure the oil ways etc and everything is new and spotless, make sure bearings etc are all pre oiled on assembly and then once the engine is back in, spin it over without the plugs in to gain some oil pressure. I always make sure i use the cam lube supplied when starting a new engine with cam/lifters etc, never had any issues that way.
Old 02-10-2012, 07:14 PM
  #5  
mattyrs1
15000
Thread Starter
 
mattyrs1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ferryside s,wales
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

cvh mate, my mate built bottom end had block skimmed crank grinded new bearings shells rings, pistons were ok, got new oil pump so just hoping it was bottom end playing up, my mate has worked on fords for years so i trust him, he is baffled as to why the lifters jammed twice,
Old 02-10-2012, 07:22 PM
  #6  
stevo123
Regular Contributor
 
stevo123's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Just a quick tip. If you get a worn/dished lifter whip the cam out and push the lifter down and get it out that way rather than scoring the lifter bores. Cant think why you getting jammed lifters though, sorry.
Old 02-10-2012, 07:28 PM
  #7  
mattyrs1
15000
Thread Starter
 
mattyrs1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ferryside s,wales
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

thanks for tip, just wandering if anyone else has had this problem, didnt think it would happen twice after putting new oil pump on, would bottom end cause it to happen?
Old 02-10-2012, 07:30 PM
  #8  
coswurv
PassionFord Post Troll
iTrader: (8)
 
coswurv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: oxford
Posts: 3,478
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

It may cause it to happen if there was lack of oil pressure to the head, ive seen quite a few cvh's eat lifters, normally happens when new lifters are used with old cams or vice versa, thats why i said with a new build use the new cam/lifters and the thick red cam lube you get for running in.
Old 02-10-2012, 07:38 PM
  #9  
mattyrs1
15000
Thread Starter
 
mattyrs1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ferryside s,wales
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

my mate did last time i watched him do it i got new kent cam kit, he wacked the cam lube all over it, which puzzled him when it happend again, should be firing it up on weekend now so we just have to keep our eyes on the oil pressure and see how it goes, I got a seconnd hand head from breakers of ebay it got piper cam in it, ive droped it off to be skimmed, should we put lube or anything in this before fitting it?my mate knows what he doing im just seeingwhat you lot do?
Old 02-10-2012, 08:17 PM
  #10  
coswurv
PassionFord Post Troll
iTrader: (8)
 
coswurv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: oxford
Posts: 3,478
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Well I would just take the cam out and the lifters, remembering where each one went just to check condition, no point lubing up as its already gonna be worn if its used so in one way your traveling down the same road, maybe it might be worth buying a new cam kit as you've already gone this far with the build.
Old 02-10-2012, 08:27 PM
  #11  
LHD220Turbo
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (4)
 
LHD220Turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: swindon, wiltshire
Posts: 10,654
Received 18 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mattyrs1
cvh mate, my mate built bottom end had block skimmed crank grinded new bearings shells rings, pistons were ok, got new oil pump so just hoping it was bottom end playing up, my mate has worked on fords for years so i trust him, he is baffled as to why the lifters jammed twice,
sorry mate, i thought you were talking about a yb
Old 02-10-2012, 09:23 PM
  #12  
JFB Tech
Not entirely sane
 
JFB Tech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 521
Received 13 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Have a good look at the oil pickup, if it's blocked, it won't make any difference if the pump is new or not, it will suffer from oil starvation.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dombanks
Technical help Q & A
3
21-09-2015 08:38 PM
kevin36
General Car Related Discussion.
0
09-09-2015 11:12 AM
kevin36
Technical help Q & A
0
08-09-2015 12:23 PM
wheelwizardrefurbs
Technical help Q & A
2
05-09-2015 10:52 AM
hopper350
Garage / Workshop & Tools Section.
2
04-09-2015 12:53 AM



Quick Reply: head problem



All times are GMT. The time now is 03:14 AM.