Mk2 focus rs stolen sandy this afternoon NOW FOUND
20-08-2012, 05:45 PM
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My dads missing range rover when upto meppershall but signal on tracker wasn't enough to locate it due to all the fields and barns. Turned up in Birmingham
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21-08-2012, 11:41 AM
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21-08-2012, 02:05 PM
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I really dont understand how the police can get away with deliberately not tackling gypseys.
Its not like they are an invincible army.
pitch up with 20 riot trained and tooled up cops from TAG and storm the gypsy camp and take the cars back.
sure the pikeys may run or fight but at least the vehicles are recovered even if you cant secure a conviction.
Its not like they are an invincible army.
pitch up with 20 riot trained and tooled up cops from TAG and storm the gypsy camp and take the cars back.
sure the pikeys may run or fight but at least the vehicles are recovered even if you cant secure a conviction.
21-08-2012, 02:28 PM
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Warren you are of course right. Saddly it won't look good on a Home Office report. Where as knobbling a speeding driver looks great, crime detected, prosecution and a conviction. What more could politicians ask for?
21-08-2012, 06:47 PM
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good luck, sadly I am not hopeful as I think either stolen to order or breaking for parts. 
Had this happen to me a long time ago. you might get lucky though, and I hope you do. Next time see if you can layer your security (PM me) this makes it really hard to steal.
Had this happen to me a long time ago. you might get lucky though, and I hope you do. Next time see if you can layer your security (PM me) this makes it really hard to steal.
08-09-2012, 07:51 PM
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update the car has been recovered by the police complete and intact . was ona pikey site in bedford . and was caught being moved to a secure storage place near santapod . aparently the cars get parked there until they need parts of them
08-09-2012, 08:02 PM
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good news
nothing will make it "hard" to steal that we the members of the public can use.
The criminals just learn new techniques to get round each security method.
The key point of layered defence is to buy you time. In car security sense, to allow you time to react, eg to car alarm activation etc or buy time to scare them off.
sure in this current finance restricted police world, i seriously doubt ANY security would buy you enough time for the police to arrive and catch them but if you can put them off then thats the best you can hope for.
hopefully they will move onto easier targets.
all the security is one thing, but if they really want the keys, they will (as chip said in another thread) just ring the door bell then threaten whoever answers with a knife or firearm. anyone with family in the house would likely comply unless they were steven segal. Although i suspect even segal would initially comply until he could find an opportunity to attack
The criminals just learn new techniques to get round each security method.
The key point of layered defence is to buy you time. In car security sense, to allow you time to react, eg to car alarm activation etc or buy time to scare them off.
sure in this current finance restricted police world, i seriously doubt ANY security would buy you enough time for the police to arrive and catch them but if you can put them off then thats the best you can hope for.
hopefully they will move onto easier targets.
all the security is one thing, but if they really want the keys, they will (as chip said in another thread) just ring the door bell then threaten whoever answers with a knife or firearm. anyone with family in the house would likely comply unless they were steven segal. Although i suspect even segal would initially comply until he could find an opportunity to attack
08-09-2012, 08:27 PM
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we should be able to use force to defend our property from theft and damage. The current definitions on "reasonable force" and use of force to protect property are lacking in this country IMO.
however more use of force by householders will lead to more use of force by criminals but thats a risk we take and unless the government tackle the legal and society issues surrounding car crime (and crime generally) then we need some way to protect our assets.
however more use of force by householders will lead to more use of force by criminals but thats a risk we take and unless the government tackle the legal and society issues surrounding car crime (and crime generally) then we need some way to protect our assets.
08-09-2012, 08:28 PM
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Hooray! ... at least 1 has been found! .. maybe people should go to this place in Bedford to browse around for the other cars that are missing ? bedford isnt That far away from either locations either...
08-09-2012, 08:29 PM
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Possibly a silly question but will that be on the hpi register as stolen recovered now? Always thought if mine goes missing I'd want it written off preferably with the cunt's in it.
08-09-2012, 08:41 PM
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brakes were non-existant so repaired pannels and investigated brakes for MOT, pedal was solid, long story short, in the glove box was a machined aluminium box with a lock on and all 4 brake pipes going in and out, turned the lock and we had a pedal!
best device ive seen fitted to a car yet, if they take it it either aint goin far or they are dead happy days either way
08-09-2012, 08:43 PM
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we should be able to use force to defend our property from theft and damage. The current definitions on "reasonable force" and use of force to protect property are lacking in this country IMO.
however more use of force by householders will lead to more use of force by criminals but thats a risk we take and unless the government tackle the legal and society issues surrounding car crime (and crime generally) then we need some way to protect our assets.
however more use of force by householders will lead to more use of force by criminals but thats a risk we take and unless the government tackle the legal and society issues surrounding car crime (and crime generally) then we need some way to protect our assets.
08-09-2012, 09:00 PM
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brakes were non-existant so repaired pannels and investigated brakes for MOT, pedal was solid, long story short, in the glove box was a machined aluminium box with a lock on and all 4 brake pipes going in and out, turned the lock and we had a pedal!
best device ive seen fitted to a car yet, if they take it it either aint goin far or they are dead happy days either way
best device ive seen fitted to a car yet, if they take it it either aint goin far or they are dead happy days either way
You cant legally set up traps to hurt burglars in the home or on your property so i suspect that would be the same on a car. Probably more so as a car on the public road is considered a public place in law (hence weapons in cars are illegal).
In this country even putting laxatives in your food to catch out student house fridge thieves or lunch thieves at work is considered illegal.
The law is strange. it views the same event as seperate crimes dispite clearly being closely linked/related.
eg in food example above, although someone shouldnt steal your food, that is a seperate legal issue to you poisoning them regardless of the fact that they wouldnt be poisoned if they didnt commit a crime.
Same with burglars getting hurt in your home. Despite them breaking the law by being there, it is entirely seperate to the "health and safety" breach that caused thier injury. madness really. H&S is about preventing avoidable accidents and taking "reasonable" precautions to reduce risk. Insane that the law considers it "reasonable" to take precautions to avoid hurting burglars. Insane how its considered "reasonable" that a burglar is on your premises.......
So fitting a device that disables a major safety feature like brakes would almost certainly be illegal. Im sure the police and the CPS would also go down the "risk to the public" route in thier prosecution as the car with no brakes could mow down a bus stop of kids or similar. Again it would be your fault despite the fact the criminal scum shouldnt be in your car, let alone driving it.
08-09-2012, 09:03 PM
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i repaired a nova GTE years ago for lads who bought and sold vauxhalls, was s/rec light front found in same street it was taken from.
brakes were non-existant so repaired pannels and investigated brakes for MOT, pedal was solid, long story short, in the glove box was a machined aluminium box with a lock on and all 4 brake pipes going in and out, turned the lock and we had a pedal!
best device ive seen fitted to a car yet, if they take it it either aint goin far or they are dead happy days either way
brakes were non-existant so repaired pannels and investigated brakes for MOT, pedal was solid, long story short, in the glove box was a machined aluminium box with a lock on and all 4 brake pipes going in and out, turned the lock and we had a pedal!
best device ive seen fitted to a car yet, if they take it it either aint goin far or they are dead happy days either way
08-09-2012, 09:18 PM
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i foiled a potential burglary of my 3 door from outside my house a good few years back by simply rewiring the fuel pump feed to a switch in the seat
i moved the seat, the switch switched off, no fuel pump, non starter
move the seat back to where you could reattach the switch, car worked fine
but this was after they had pulled one of the indicators out to try and short the wiring, then fucked the passenger door lock and door, then broke the window, pulled the steering column about and then were pushing it down the road while my old man was shouting out the window "what are you doing?"
their reply was "we are stealing your car"
they got about 100 yards down the road before they gave up and left it but it didn't help that the coppers didn't turn up for another 45 minutes
there were 5 of them mind, and they had committed armed robberies and were looking to change cars several times, the car they were in was stolen and they left that at my house while they were trying to steal mine, before they stole someone else's further up the road
i moved the seat, the switch switched off, no fuel pump, non starter
move the seat back to where you could reattach the switch, car worked fine
but this was after they had pulled one of the indicators out to try and short the wiring, then fucked the passenger door lock and door, then broke the window, pulled the steering column about and then were pushing it down the road while my old man was shouting out the window "what are you doing?"
their reply was "we are stealing your car"
they got about 100 yards down the road before they gave up and left it but it didn't help that the coppers didn't turn up for another 45 minutes
there were 5 of them mind, and they had committed armed robberies and were looking to change cars several times, the car they were in was stolen and they left that at my house while they were trying to steal mine, before they stole someone else's further up the road
08-09-2012, 09:18 PM
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the probable best solution would be say on a cossie to fit a tracker with command options then set up one of the options to isolate the power to the brake booster pump
The cunts would stack it hard when the accumulator runs out of pressure and only a detailed forensic investigation would discover such a fault with the electrical supply.
You would of course need to resend a command to the unit once you know its crashed to restore the power to the brakes. Then factory restore youre phone.
Again it would need a detailed forensic investigation to discover the tracking device and to realise what had happened. The police would need to suspect a brake failure first. initial testing of the brakes would show the system operational, so unless they suspected foul play (why would they) then they would be unlikely to look further than checking the brakes work.
however if they suspect foul play you are screwed as they would eventually discover the electronics and the tracker and recover the cellphone records showing you sent the command texts to kill the brakes. But that is unlikely.
A more sensible option is to rig up the command options to cut the fuel pump and/or the ignition relays/circuits feeding the cossie loom.
no engine, no go.
The cunts would stack it hard when the accumulator runs out of pressure and only a detailed forensic investigation would discover such a fault with the electrical supply.
You would of course need to resend a command to the unit once you know its crashed to restore the power to the brakes. Then factory restore youre phone.
Again it would need a detailed forensic investigation to discover the tracking device and to realise what had happened. The police would need to suspect a brake failure first. initial testing of the brakes would show the system operational, so unless they suspected foul play (why would they) then they would be unlikely to look further than checking the brakes work.
however if they suspect foul play you are screwed as they would eventually discover the electronics and the tracker and recover the cellphone records showing you sent the command texts to kill the brakes. But that is unlikely.
A more sensible option is to rig up the command options to cut the fuel pump and/or the ignition relays/circuits feeding the cossie loom.
no engine, no go.
08-09-2012, 11:02 PM
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Always thought removable steering wheels were a damn good determent.
You can't drive off with it if it hasn't got a steering wheel nor tow it. All they can do is lift it up with a crane.
There was a guide in one of the car mags last year iirc about doing a DIY tracker using a old mobile phone.
At the end of the day if they really want your car they will get it. All you can do is make it difficult.
You can't drive off with it if it hasn't got a steering wheel nor tow it. All they can do is lift it up with a crane.
There was a guide in one of the car mags last year iirc about doing a DIY tracker using a old mobile phone.
At the end of the day if they really want your car they will get it. All you can do is make it difficult.
08-09-2012, 11:34 PM
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..put loads of rattly metal attached to a thin rope underneath the car so when theyre nicking it they wont see them... or loads of D-locks round the wheels.... theyre a bitch to get through.
Removable steering wheels get my vote though!! ..
Removable steering wheels get my vote though!! ..
09-09-2012, 07:47 AM
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I live 10 miles from Chatteris and i have seen a couple of pikys where i live driving around in a white tranist van, i will have a ride round today and keep my eye open.
