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Old 19-07-2012, 07:45 PM
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Default Astra Turbo, Accord Type R etc cheap these days.

Really not up to date with the price of used cars. I was checking Ebay earlier and seen Astra Coupe Turbo's for around 2k, Honda Accord Type R's around the same price......These cars are capable of 150mph and still look good to this day. The market really has fallen out on 2nd hand cars. Astra Turbo is appealing but need a 4 door really
Old 19-07-2012, 08:56 PM
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you have been able to get these for 2k and under for a few years now.
Old 19-07-2012, 09:22 PM
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Shows how behind times I am

Reading up on some reviews and the Astra Turbo Coupe can achieve 32MPG, this car is sounding appealing, trouble is it is a 2 door
Old 19-07-2012, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Daviet
you have been able to get these for 2k and under for a few years now.
Agree.

Huge amount of car for the money.
I'm more impressed with old AMG Mercs and the likes.

http://pistonheads.com/sales/4024623.htm

Limited to 155mph, for £3800?!
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mental prices i know but if you had to buy 4 new tyres and a clutch it would probably cost you the price again lol
least the honda's and vauxhalls are cheap to run and maintain.
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Bloody 'ell.....That price is just mad for that Merc, but as Daviet says......I bet if anything went wrong it would cost the earth!

I am wondering now......Surely an Astra Coupe Turbo would/should be cheap to maintain or I wonder being the Turbo version if all the parts are that much more than say the 1.8 16v Coupe?
Old 19-07-2012, 10:45 PM
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you can get civic type r's for about the same or just over...and even mazda rx8s for under a grand! ( albeit with problems) but still.

1.3 rx8 for a grand with 200*bhp,, why not

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Go drive the astra..... Hateful things as are all astra mk4s IMO
Old 19-07-2012, 11:04 PM
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Accord Type-R's are a nice drive though. I guess most are a bit leggy these days.
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Originally Posted by Java=Blue
1.3 rx8 for a grand with 200*bhp,, why not
Because they are shit.
Old 20-07-2012, 11:02 AM
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accord type R's suffer with bottom ends and gearboxes.

mine went on the ring in 2009.

the boxes select 2 gears at once and require a rebuild.
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I think you need to watch how much faith you put in quoted MPG figures.

Remember the old saying: "Cheap, Fast, Reliable... you can only choose two."


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Originally Posted by stephenbatey
Because they are shit.
Agree!!
Old 20-07-2012, 03:09 PM
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Mate of mine had a mk4 Astra gsi don't bother what a total pile of dog shit he spent more time fixing it than he did driving it and that was when they were fairly new!
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Hmm. Was literally about to get in the car to go and buy a Astra gsi turbo. On second thoughts.

Are they that bad then ? My second option was a seat Ibiza cupra. Might go with that now
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go and try a mk1 octavia vrs, there amazing cars.
mine is a 52 plate with 175k and still returning 42mpg daily which not bad for a 1.8t with 230bhp
Old 20-07-2012, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zippyobrien
Hmm. Was literally about to get in the car to go and buy a Astra gsi turbo. On second thoughts.

Are they that bad then ? My second option was a seat Ibiza cupra. Might go with that now
there the same engine has the Astra VXR but different turbo and injectors,

i think people just dont like the ecotec engine compared to the let, but me and my mates have never had a problem with them just a leaky rocker gasket in 4 years of ownership
Old 20-07-2012, 03:35 PM
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My mates one was very poor maybe he was just unlcucky? I had an Ibiza cupra back in 2002 with a jabba sport map and exhaust great little cars made around 200hp 240lbs torque only thing that let it down was the tiny k03 turbo, it used to run out of puff on the motorway good mid range though.
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I've been told that the Astros don't actually drive nice either.
On a twisty country road I can sit all over my mates gsi in my fiesta zetec s lol.
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astra's are awful, the engine should be named ecowreck rathan than ecotec
Old 20-07-2012, 06:05 PM
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Might be a bit slower, might be a bit more 'old man' and I might be a bit biased... but I don't think you can look past an older Mondeo ST200 to tick a lot of boxes, you could possibly get an ST220 at that end of the market these days too, I'm not sure.

IMO the only thing they don't do so well is MPG, but unless you cane the arse out of it, you should return around 25mpg average from them without too much hassle.


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Old 20-07-2012, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by furry
accord type R's suffer with bottom ends and gearboxes.

mine went on the ring in 2009.

the boxes select 2 gears at once and require a rebuild.
Post facelifts have a better 5th gear synchro
Cambelt tensioners need checking as can fail but non interference engine
bottom pulley keyways can fail
Old 20-07-2012, 07:13 PM
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Theres a lovely looking accord type r on gumtree for 3k, 98k on a 2002 http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...aris/107141122


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I have never heard this before......."Cheap, Fast, Reliable... you can only choose two." Like it RS Grant!

The ST220 is lovely but have read even if used with a feather foot they still drink fuel, shame as it is a good all rounder. I have a BMW E36, one of the last engines to be used in the E36 which is a 1.9 8v giving off a huge 105bhp!! MPG wise, well she does around 350 miles to a full tank and a full tank from empty costs me £68 at £1.32 a litre. I do like the tight handling and predictable handling she gives, also the interior is nice and solid and the car feels sturdy unlike all my Pug 205 GTI's I have owned, but they were all fantastic fun!

If only I was a bit younger I would go for a 106 GTI. Such a fun car to drive, trouble is at my tender age of 41 I think I may look a bit silly in one!

Also checking out the BMW E46 Coupe's, such a lovely looking car but the practicality of it will be an issue, shame

Vectra C GSI's go cheap but I drove a 1.8 16v one about a year ago and it was bloody horrid.

MK4 Golf GTI's could be an idea in 5 door form. 150BHP as standard and a simple Re-map will take them to 190BHP. Never been in one so dont know what they are like, just hope they kept the standards of the MK2 16v GTI, had a few of those back in the day......Great fun!!
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Well mark just bid and won a corsa with 291bhp c20let that's stripped out and weighs. Around 800kgs lol

For £2600 should be fun for the money, we are going to get it tomorrow
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Originally Posted by xtatiana01x
Well mark just bid and won a corsa with 291bhp c20let that's stripped out and weighs. Around 800kgs lol

For £2600 should be fun for the money, we are going to get it tomorrow

A Corsa with an LET in it........That = serious smiles per mile!!
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Originally Posted by RS Grant
Might be a bit slower, might be a bit more 'old man' and I might be a bit biased... but I don't think you can look past an older Mondeo ST200 to tick a lot of boxes, you could possibly get an ST220 at that end of the market these days too, I'm not sure.

IMO the only thing they don't do so well is MPG, but unless you cane the arse out of it, you should return around 25mpg average from them without too much hassle.


Cheers,
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Have you still got yours? Not seen any updates in the pics section for a while
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Originally Posted by RichieL
A Corsa with an LET in it........That = serious smiles per mile!!
i dont like it but mark keeps saying they are rapid....

well its 291bhp with rebuilt engine and xe cam with 200sx manifold and td05 turbo with all the supporting mods and runs that at only 13psi on phase 3.5, frontera 2.8 fmic and hard pipes too

also uprated mounts, equal lenth shafts and uprated clutch, f20 box

coilovers, buckets, harnesses, v6 brakes

fully stripped and looks like a proper sleeper too with a side exit system
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My mate had a 280-ish bhp c20let Corsa B, the thing didn't half go! Took up 2 lanes on boost though.
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Originally Posted by Bungle
Have you still got yours? Not seen any updates in the pics section for a while
Yep still got it mate, not stuck any pics up recently cause it's not really changed... and the weather has been rubbish up here!!

Originally Posted by xtatiana01x
its 291bhp
That will go like a missile, once it gets traction. I love bonkers wee things like that.


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Originally Posted by zetec-Sam
My mate had a 280-ish bhp c20let Corsa B, the thing didn't half go! Took up 2 lanes on boost though.
Originally Posted by RS Grant
Yep still got it mate, not stuck any pics up recently cause it's not really changed... and the weather has been rubbish up here!!



That will go like a missile, once it gets traction. I love bonkers wee things like that.


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thats what mark said, should be good fun, keep hearing that the f20 wont be much good though?
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That corsa was sounding good until you mentioned it had an f20 in
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Update.

Went and bough the Ibiza.

Cupra r on a 2001.
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CupraR... 180bhp and Brembos? Quite a rare model from memory. What colour?? Stick a few pics up mate.

Leon Cupra might be an interesting choice for the OP actually, pick up the pre facelift ones for pennies these days.


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Originally Posted by RS Grant
CupraR... 180bhp and Brembos? Quite a rare model from memory. What colour?? Stick a few pics up mate.

Leon Cupra might be an interesting choice for the OP actually, pick up the pre facelift ones for pennies these days.


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Just been looking at them as not even thought about one till you mentioned it......Thanks mate

Anyone know what they are like to drive and any known issues with them?
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Originally Posted by Fullflush
That corsa was sounding good until you mentioned it had an f20 in
Yeh that's cool I will get a couple of spares lol

Grayzo has just brought a cupra and it's 225bhp and he paid 2k and it's real nice

Oh and the corsa is pretty quick lol
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I'll get some picks up today after cleaned it.

Yh with the brembos and bilstiens as standard. Had a stage 1 remap, but think it needs a front mount as it quite sluggish if you boot it after traffic ect.

Wanna get the furling checked before use it to hard really.

And needs 3 new boots, but there 215/40/16 which is a bizzar size. So will peob get 4 new 205 /45/16.

Loving it so far though. Feels really solid for a small car.

I test drove a Astra gsi turbo and they are shit !!!! Lol
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they are good cars and very tunable too

grayzo who you brought the engine from bracknell off has got his today too.
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