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Old 17-07-2012, 10:28 PM
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Whats a t4 equipped car like to live with, I have been contemplating what to do with my car and really fancy having a t4 fitted on my recently rebuilt 2wd engine with multi layer head gasket and 4wd pistons being only engine mods. It does already have genuine 500 cooler and mongoose exhaust. I would probably fit a 4wd plenum to help breathing and go with a level 8 ecu with wasted spark and possibly closed loop.
Does a t4 at lower boost give a more reliable car than a t3 running much higher boost for same power or is reliability more power related than boost.
Any advice appreciated.
Old 17-07-2012, 10:53 PM
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It's a lot harder to drive IMHO, no power at all below 4k, unless you are going for 500Bhp stick with a T3/34.
Old 17-07-2012, 10:57 PM
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if its a street car dont bother using a t4.. tooo laggy .. you have to make an effort to keep it in boost otherwise low power cars will be keeping up. ideally id use a t34 at 2 bar boost to make a proper road car.. less lag.. alot of power and proper punch!! t4 is for open long dual carriageways where top end counts.. tbh its a shit set up
Old 17-07-2012, 11:03 PM
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Shit is slightly harsh i think lol, yes you have to work them to get the most out of it and i would think its pretty pointless on a standard spec engine, but with the right specced engine they're awesome when they're on song! Imo of course
Old 17-07-2012, 11:04 PM
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sapph1 exactly WHEN they are on song.. by then its too late in a race on the streets
Old 17-07-2012, 11:12 PM
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You just have to learn to drive them differently that's all, different people want different things from a car, i personally love my set up, another person may not lol.
Old 17-07-2012, 11:14 PM
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However, nothing feels like a T4 cossie coming on boost!

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Old 17-07-2012, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
However, nothing feels like a T4 cossie coming on boost!
true if its running decent power.. that kick up the arse is a great feeling
Old 17-07-2012, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
However, nothing feels like a T4 cossie coming on boost!
A T66
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Old 17-07-2012, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bigz2345
sapph1 exactly WHEN they are on song.. by then its too late in a race on the streets
By the time any performance car gets into its "zone" its too late for the streets.
Old 17-07-2012, 11:29 PM
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Some of this is sounding a bit fast and furious.
Getting mine live mapped once I get the box sorted out.
Old 17-07-2012, 11:30 PM
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out of date lol if you wont a big turbo use a gt30 or some thing newer
Old 17-07-2012, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
By the time any performance car gets into its "zone" its too late for the streets.
it isnt
Old 17-07-2012, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bigz2345
it isnt
well name me a performance that isn't?
Old 18-07-2012, 06:57 AM
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it will be awesome if you drive it accordingly, if you dont want to rev above 6000 rpm then dont bother, but if ur happy to hit 7500 rpm then it will be quick.
Old 18-07-2012, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
well name me a performance that isn't?
Anything big and normally aspirated.
Old 18-07-2012, 10:44 AM
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I think the twin roller bearing t4 is better , comes on boost a bit earlier. Don't forget the cams make a big difference to how it drives ! Mine's getting mapped at msd as we speak and that comes on boost well
Old 18-07-2012, 11:42 AM
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Unless you are going all the way with a proper motor to suit I wouldn't bother, I used to run a T4 on a totally standard engine and looking back now it was a total waste of time!
Old 18-07-2012, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Anything big and normally aspirated.
My M3 is NA and V8 and running 460HP and really your not having fun untill your in the top rpm of 3rd gear and your pushing the speed limits by then.
Old 18-07-2012, 01:53 PM
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Same with the audi r8 same with the 6.3 v8 c63 amg how much bigger do you want to get?
Old 18-07-2012, 03:35 PM
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look up cossie rich on here, he had a gt30 on a nearly stock lump 470 hp thats the best to go for id say.
Old 18-07-2012, 04:51 PM
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T4 on a properly specced engine is awesome, I use gav diamonds graph alot as it pulls 30-32 psi at 3500 on the dyno which will be 3700-3800 in the car and has 540bhp at 7500 and 510 at 8000 I'll put the graph up.

But in general they are a little laggy, you have to get the, nice and hot to have them working well and work in the real world from 4-8k

I love them but the gt series is a more usable turbo on the road, particularly a 3071
Old 18-07-2012, 05:08 PM
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for those normally aspirate lovers and turbo haters try removing the turbo and upping the comp ratio then you'll have lag all the way to the rev limiter
Old 18-07-2012, 06:06 PM
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I know mine is going to be great, T4 on a proper specced engine built by Toan the moan.....things just dont get much better.

Is that tooooooo much brown nosing lol

Steve
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