Mike Rainbird

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Any more for any more?

Phil

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Things are looking up for the Ford team then!

Come on Rod, you know you want to

JAP CRAP

Is Ranj still building his car or what??

Come on Rod and Mark

Mike, what about Gareth Lloyd? he would probably still win the handling course

Porkie

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What about Efe? he gives his car DEATH everywhere. I am sure he will be up for it

Warren Kellys Escort is VERY fast as well

JAP CRAP

Porkie, EXACTLY what I was thinking. bloke is always ringing that escorts neck

and Mike, about time you upped your engine spec and led by example dont you think?? You'll just have to put something other than Ł50 notes on your fire place for a couple of weeks and buy your new turbo etc

Rossco

Think Efe post earlyer saying he would see if he could fit TOTB in

Porkie

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Forgot about Ranj's car Loads of power, strong transmission, its all good

dannyblackpool

upski

ImaRacing 700

Such big talk now as per usual Wait till the week before and they will be dropping out like flies

JAP CRAP

Dunno what your on about! enter yours you big Rainbow will drive or if he's entering his car I'll drive it for you

Porkie

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Spec of Imas car sounds great so why not enter it?

Mike Rainbird

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Because it would mean leaving the house and he doesn't "do" that without armed body guards now-a-days - especially where some "Reyland crew" might be there to put a few caps in his ass .

Porkie

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Would he let you take it without him going then? we neeed some fast cars

ImaRacing 700

Indeed it is BUT its only going to be a road car with a bash at 190plus MPH once at Brunters on final mapping session....All i am doin is proving to myself i can build and spec a YB to 600plus BHP......even more into it now as Karl claims i cant possibly acheive it unless i had his knowledge.

Anonymous

IMA

I think Karl means build one and make it last, building one to work once is pretty easy really by comparison.

Reliable power is the hard thing to achieve, not power.

ImaRacing 700

Chip...no Karl claims to acheive 600bhp you have to have a correctly ported head cam choice compression etc etc...its just not as easy as you say.

Reliability will be fine for me as its a road car so it aint exactly gonna be flat out much..LOL...in any case i feel the spec will make a reliable motor for competitions..this is costing a lot of cash now i am adding it up I will perform a freshen up at 10k miles to see the wear..if it will lastthat long...LOL..who the fook knows?...Oh sorry Karl does

JAP CRAP

Up for ranj

Phil. Just think of the shit you could give Karl if you entered TOTB and he didn't all about proven times

churchy

If anyone from the Norfolk group needs a transit to take spares etc... up there, let me know.

Anonymous

Phil, im sure at less pwoer your engine will be reliable, i think carls point was to run reliabley on pump fuel at big power and do so often that you needed to consider other things.

Is your top speed run going to be on pump fuel or race fuel, i dont know anything about the rules for this brunters competitition as it doesnt really seem to interest anyone outside the land of cossies a great deal TBH.

CossieRich

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There are no rules chip. You turn up, spank your car down the straight and see how fast you can go. nos, race fuel etc is all allowed

Anonymous

Ah right, well 190mph sounds pretty straightforward then given that.

I have utterly no interest in road cars on race fuel, it just means its no longer a fast roadcar and is instead a slow racing car, i dont like running anything on a strip that i cant run on the road.

Thats just my personal preference though, i dont mind nitrous, cause i use that on the road but race fuel i view as "cheating" (not in this contest, just for me personally as its not longer a road car), although i do use octane booster on the road sometimes (quick top up with 10% toluene)

sunny

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Chip I hope you realise that this is going to open another new can of worms on here. ....well hopefully not!

Anonymous

Chip
Are you saying that any new Topspeed record I obtain is cheating if I use Race fuel, well at least it means Martins time dont count. ..

ImaRacing 700

NOS is deffo cheating......race fuel is acceptable for safety reasons,but i guess it should still be on the road fuel map.

MY OPINION.

BUT then taking off windscreen wipers and spoilers and wing mirrors is IMO.

You know Rod to harp on about your car doin quicker times in certain situations than the MACCA F1 is stupid because that was on pump fuel with everything attached?

Stavros

Race fuel is sooooooooooo blatantly cheating.

It enables cars to run safely at a power level they never normally could in road spec.

Race fuel = Race car.

Would be exactly as safe if the compression was lower, but instead its specced for race fuel, ie cheating.

Does my head in, Cossies arnt too bad for it, but most other makes all use race fuel to get anywhere...

Disabled Account

Steve, that RC Developments EVO that made over 900 BHP (on dyno)........

Was that on race fuel??????? IIRC it was

Stavros

Yup. Then ran methanol at TOTB.

Almost all Skylines do, as they run 8.6:1 comp even when stupid power.

Im not into race fuel one bit, cars built to be used to the maximum on the road, so specced to run full power/boost on pump fuel alone.

Steve200+

Wasn't just Clive either...

Anonymous

Mine was on pump Fuel on the 200mph day as well Phil, will use the race
Fuel map next time though .
I dont see that it matters if you run your car on asprin as long as goes quicker, the Stopwatch dont cheat. .

Spiky

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no matter how a car gets to it's top speed regardless of fuel nos what ever

top speed is top speed


i'll await my stoning... but hay, it's my veiw

RichardPON

Race fuel?

Where does it stop then?

Take a methanol powered engine, dump it in a sierra, run some silly speeds? Record broken?

Anonymous

This is a TOTB thread so it stops within the rules of that competition, so any fuel & Nitrous can be used. The people aiming to do well will maximise their cars within those rules, the also rans & the going for a laugh brigade wont.
Nothing to stop a Methanol powered Cossie but a lot of effort & I doubt it will happen.
Rod

RichardPON

Within the rules is fair enough, as long as they are stipulated.

Anonymous

Rod, for that event i dont view it as cheating, as its in the rules.
But in terms of what i do with my own cars i would view it as irrelevant to my claims of having a fast road car.

My main interest is RWYB days, and its always been my opinion that at a "Run What You Brung", you should "Run How You Brung" too.

Im not in anyway trying to belittle your experience, and in fact quite the opposite, i dont view your car as a 202mph car, if i drove it then i would view it as a 210mph+ car probably, as thats what i reckon it would get upto in real life on normal fuel with nitrous, ie how i would run it on the road.

I view the whole brunters thing as a bit irrelevant, its an ok way to compare cars, but its all a bit of an arbitarary distance which doesnt mean anything to anyone outside of the "brunters crew" so i personally have more interest in 1/4 mile times as you can do that as often as you want at lots of different places.

Anonymous

It happens to be the longest straight in the country than can be used by joe public. Ive been to the RAF about using the two longer runways but in these days of increased security they aint available. Mags like Redline & performance Ford use Brunters as their Yardstick. The 200mph championship will be held their also. You are not one of those people who think 200mph is easily achieved on the road cos it cant & if you did & got caught would be facing a lengthy prison sentence & rightly so.
Also i can compare my car to other supercars & its like for like, it would be nice to have the 5 miles that the Macca 1 took to achieve 240, but it aint really practical so its Brunters until a better venue is found. Ive no idea how fast my motor would go if the length was unlimited & will never find out.
Rod
ps. I have a saying the Bullshit stops at the start of Brunters.

space hoppers

rod the green eyed monsters are back mate

Sean Bicknell

I agree with Rod on this. This is a TOTB thread and it stops with the limits of the TOTB rules. I spose it don't matter now cus I aint building my car, but Karl and I talked extensively about using Methnol. It was going to be done for special occasions. The stuff is pretty pokey though and fucks you up if you get it on your skin and you can't see the flame when it catches light, so i didn't fancy running on it all the time.

In F1 you don't see Paul Stodart telling Ferrari to only spend the same money that he has. I mean fuck, I bet Ferrari's food bill is more than Minardi's entire budget.

Sean.

Rossco

Sooo true

Rules are there to be pushed to the limit!

churchy

Methanol is great stuff, me old man uses it in his speedway bike. Mix it with a bit of Castrol R40 and it also smells good too.