COCHYN

This man. You really have to re-learn how to drive hard with a RWD, much more of a drivers car.

CrOwSoN15

But you always abide by the law, I didn't realise you could drive a car "hard" under the speed limit.

xtatiana01x

Name a 200bhp rwd PRODUCTION. Car that's faster than a megane r26r round say the nurburgring .

Oh there isn't lol

Unless you get something like a caterham r500 or a ariel atom at twice the price

ajamesc

now imagine how much better that megan would be if 4x4 or rwd lol and modern serious rwd sports cars are a lot more than 200bhp that's why you cannot name one lol

Darylc.

iTrader: (1)

You cant compare fwd to rwd to be honest. There are great FWD cars, there are crap RWD cars and vice versa.

COCHYN

Of course, but cheers for the sarcasm knob

xtatiana01x

It's because you need a car that's 40k+ new to beat them times set by the meganes

Don't get me wrong I would rather go slower and be sideways but you can't say that fwd is shit

ajamesc

im not saying its shit its just cost effective and no serious performance car is fwd there all rwd or 4x4 its a much better set up

RichieL

So FWD cars are better on fuel than a RWD car? So if we had the exact same car, lets say a 2.0 16v Mondeo. So this car is FWD yet if it was RWD the fuel economy would drop?

Also Phil RS said.....You get more transmission losses with rwd cars Sorry for sounding a bit thick here but what does that mean?

xr2wishy

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fwd cars can't put down the power as well as rwd ones, that is a fact, purely due to the front lifting on acceleration, whereas rwd also lift the front, but put more weight on the driving wheels.
rwd weigh more due to extra diff/prop and a bigger tunnel.

you can't compare cost of a megane to a rwd powerhouse, but consider the top spec fwd car to a top spec rwd car, there is a reason they choose a minimum of rwd.

xtatiana01x

That's cool, me and mark have had shed loads of cars and still think the best car on the planet is a atmo cossie mk2 escort lol

Oranoco

Tell that to a BMW driver when it's snowing

Pete frst

having passed my test and owning rear wheel drive cars my opinion is you need to be on your game if your going to seriously shuffle a rwd car,factor in wet roads and lots of power and your need to be as sharp as the quality parts in your car,i like fwd now,i like the grip in poor conditions and i find it a lot easier to go fast in,i guess its a confidence thing,im more happy caning a fwd than a rwd but each to their own :L

ajamesc

a bmw with traction tyres for the winter on will be better than any fwd in the snow after think of all the snow they have at winter where bmw,s and merc,s are from!

danneth

Can't really compare when you need to use winter tyres

ajamesc

of course you can its called commen sence plus its down to driving too you see just as many people who cannot drive stuck in fwd cars and even 4x4 cars in the snow! I get about ok in my c36 amg in the snow and have snow socks for the deep stuff I don't get stuck

danneth

It's common sense to use them, cause with standard tyres RWD is awful in the snow, of course people still get stuck in all types of car but the fact still remains, in general FWD is easier to get about in the snow than RWD.

BigChuck

its common sense to compare like for like, not modifying the vehicle to suit the conditions.

of course adding winter tyres will help, but they will also improve the fwd car...

ajamesc

but not if using winter tyres like they do in europe that is

ajamesc

ok ill give you that one then for about a week of each year if your lucky fwd is better lol

Minirotty

If I had a pound for every RWD v FWD thread I have ever seen

Darylc.

iTrader: (1)

Stupid isn't it?

To all these RWD diehards, would you rather have a mint Focus RS mk2 with all the mods or a Ł200 eBay BMW from the late 90's? Exactly

Rsmat

iTrader: (2)

I gave up a brand new frs mk2 for a 3dr and another mk1 frs.

Darylc.

iTrader: (1)

Fair enough, I'd definately prefer a 3 door to any other RS (Apart from the old escorts).

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

that was just stupidity

ajamesc

I'd rather have a E39 m5 for the same value as the focus lol

ajamesc

what giving up a mk2 fwd focus for a mint 300+bhp 3dr lol are you on something

RWD_cossie_wil

iTrader: (9)

I'd take the BMW.

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

lol maybe its because i have them all but i prefer driving my FRS i haven't even bothered finishing my 3dr since and thats got a 550hp engine and just been complete repainted, looms been rewired, near new interior, untracked dash, new suspension, gearbox, diff etc my 400+ RS is much more reliable and i can get it and go without worrying.

Darylc.

iTrader: (1)

You two are mad

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

no, there just to stuck in there ways with RWD thinking its better than fwd LOL

RWD_cossie_wil

iTrader: (9)

It is, by a huge margin!

ajamesc

what! A 400bhp out the box bmw m5 or a focus rs lol the bmw is a miles better car

Rsmat

iTrader: (2)

Not really... Fell out with it.. And didn't use it..I had owned it 14months from brand new and only done 1.6k... Paid my mortgage off and bought a 3dr... Then a mk1 frs...if I want another mk2 I could go out tomorrow and buy one cash but I don't...!!... If I buy anything it won't be ford.....

ajamesc

it is better lol but its not just rwd I'd much rather have an evo7 or 8 over a focus too

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

in what circumstances? I agree theres some but imo you can have just as much road legal fun in a fwd as a rwd.

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

thats your opinion but can you explain why?

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

well if you didn't use it then it makes sense but to claim that its not as capable as many red cars is insane.

how many miles have you done in your 3dr?

Rsmat

iTrader: (2)

Where have I said its not capable..?... It's the best fwd I've ever driven..!.. What I said in my first post as in driving terms...

Rwd = mans toy...!

Fwd= boys you..!

No mention of how capable both are there eh..?

And I've done more in the 3dr.. Only because I've drive it to shows... And I didn't the focus.....

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

that second part wasn't directed at you mate.. was an open statement.

well at least your enjoying the 3dr mate