xr_craig

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RWD for me too. Fair enough there are some capable FWD cars, but it's what i prefer.

You can't class yourself as a proper petrol head if you would rather have a fwd car in my opinion

RWD_cossie_wil

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Try doing this in a wrong wheel drive car!

danneth

It's all personal preference, if you want to drift round corners then you will prefer RWD but thats about the only thing you can't get from a FWD, the rest is down to what suits you.

RWD_cossie_wil

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R5FORD

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so you can get the rear end out on a red thats the only advantage other than getting the power down slightly better.

Rsmat

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Ha ha no danger mate...I'd never rule out buying another great cars..

RWD_cossie_wil

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No not at all, the point is RWD is much more fun to drive, as you have to balance the car using the throttle, and learn to feel what the car is doing. It makes for a much better driver, FWD is simply point and squirt, any idiot can jump in and drive fast.

FWD exists only for cheapness & space saving, other than that it is a huge compromise. Don't get me wrong, there are some great FWD cars about, and in terms of ultimate speed there probably isn't a whole lot in it any more, but rear wheel drive is still the purest solution for a drivers car.

Name a FWD super car?

martysmartie

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Yes, I said the same thing.

In a F/R configuration this would be true,as the name suggests, it means how much power is lost in transmitting the power from the engine via the transmission to the driven wheels (As you always will have a loss) this is why you have power measured at the wheels and at the flywheel (Engine)

If you think of the physics the power is transmitted via the gearbox to the prop, diff etc rather than straight to the front wheels via a transaxle as in a F/F configuration so it will be slightly more efficient .

No lol, the reason for the introduction of the Mondeo was to bring the "Family Ford" upto speed technologically, 16V engines and multilink suspension etc, the reason it was FWD was just because the way things were going and the running gear would only permit then to do so, in fact the Sierra didn't follow the crowd in this respect (Thankfully) but then they were merely 'Cortina's in disguise' in essence, but that's another story.

Imo there is very little difference in fuel economy (Excluding 4x4 of course).

Martin

Rod-Tarry

I have both. A Pug 107, its cute, red & does 50mpg & if pushed would reach the speed limit. My Cossie aint cute, white does 12mpg & if pushed a huge adrenalin rush.
One is a proper car for real Petrolheads that know how to handle a car the other is fwd & is like them all for cissy's .

Roscopeco

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I like both fwd and rwd , had plenty of both but always wanted a S1 so ditched the rwd and got one . Still got my mates mk1 escort to play in anyway so its all good for me

Cant beat pulling out of a junction completely sideways , one of the best feelings ever

Chaz888

The other side of this I believe is about power and control lets say you have 500 bhp in a FWD car its going to be like fighting a bear with the steering pulling all over the place but with 500bhp in RWD the steering stays light and you balance the car between throttle and steerage so more controled maybe thats why big power sports car are still RWD ? hard to say as both my RWD an FWD cars have had only about 200+ bhp

R5FORD

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I agree slightly with the above but i also disagree.. I dont have to fight my mk2 with over 550nm of torque it has a little grunt but the steering is still easy to control.

I just disregard rods comments

jameswrx

I read the title and imagined the replies..


This was one I thought might come on page two, got it in early!

I've driven a mk2 RS and been driven in one, nice... Until it rains. Gay wheel drive means wheel spin, traction kicking in, blah, blah.


PMSL

That's how I see it.

Anyway. GWD or RWD? Neither! 4WD is the answer! My scoob will pull me out a corner wet or dry and get me about in the snow!

danneth

Why do all people with 4WD bring the rain up who actually launches the car out in the rain jesus, its like me saying once rolling in a line you're going to get mullered.

phil_rs

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It would be slower as you would lose more power through the transmission

jameswrx

Maybe because when we were kids we too had fwd, so we remember the fruitless wheel spin and ploughing on out the bends

I don't launch my car, but I do sometimes like to accelerate as much as the engine will give in 1st or 2nd. The focus rs won't do that in third in the rain power is nothing without control, what's the sense in having 300bhp through the front wheels if it's restricted in 1st and 2nd.

I can come off a roundabout in 2nd in the wet and my car will dig in and Accelerate how I want.

I'm only pi55ing about anyway, I don't mind fwd just think it has it's limits.. Sadly that's only about 150bhp

Robs Frst

I never bring up the rain, for me AWD is about the corner speeds I can hit and exiting out of them quickly.

danneth

is this track or on the roads? i can't think of any corners personally where i drop below 2nd gear and even then theres no fuss about getting the power down, i know im only 300bhp and FWD but what sort of power are we talking about here before it becomes a problem?

Robs Frst

Track


Im not a hater when it comes to FWD, for the daily I drive between a Mk4 Golf Gti & MK5 Golf Gti, which both do there job well. The modern stuff has come along in handling and grip.

One Fwd car I just never understood was mk1 Focus RS, wanted to like it, but the torque steer was horrible for a standard car.

danneth

If you think its 150bhp for FWD then im guessing you haven't driven a decent FWD in quite a while, i can't speak for everyone but mine seems ok in 1st and 2nd never an issue with the power, of course if i drive like a plonk with a lead foot in the rain then im sure i could just exit every corner lighting the wheels up.

Rsmat

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Grow some fore arms then and when it stops enjoy it..!...

I know what you saying mate... I love the mk1 it's raw like a Cossie'd RST...

danneth

When a megane is lapping the ring only 1 sec slower than a spec C scooby, i'd also agree with you that FWD has come along way

Rsmat

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Your car drove and delivered the power fantastic when I took you down the lanes in it ... Deffo a good contender not to be sniffed at in fwd ....

Jay,

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im going to look at a monaro vxr tomorrow v8 superchargeness theres something about a v8 and supercharger sound that get me right in the pants so imight have a fwd and a rwd then lol

danneth

did it?

Fudgey

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my 400bhp 386lbft 3dr was fucking lethal in the wet lol, tickle the throttle and it tried to swap ends!!

int he dry tho it was quite entertaining and once it got to 6krpm again the rear end was coming past the drivers window lol

my daily is a ford puma... tbh it handles very well and the brake upgrade is a must, but its fucking boring.

next car i plan on buying is an impreza, i need 4 doors and quick. awd is a bonus.

in future i think ill plan to buy rwd or 4x4/awd mostly for that odd occasion you get to fuck about.

Robs Frst

, Im to Lazy to fight steering wheels lol, To be honest MK1 Focus Rs is a giggle made me feel young again like driving a RS Turbo but so much better , but just could not live with the torque steer
For me when I consider a big BHP car I only consider AWD or RWD, both suit my driving style better.

Agree with you there, imo mainly the driver who done justice in that megane, I know I could never match those times in a FWD car.

jameswrx

Is the mk2 rs not considered decent then?

I've owned and/or driven lots of fwd turbo cars.

I'm only messing anyway, they have their place, but to me they are a compromise which is mainly because of economics in production proccess.

Rsmat

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You think that was bad... You want to come out in the 3dr down there... I'm wet through with sweat by the end.....

OldDan

Do you not? Clio Cup, Abarth 500's, Numerous touring cars such as the Vectra, MG whateverthefuckitis, Honda Civic, etc etc.

There are fucking loads!

~nomad~

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Slammed on 17s with 225s as well

It's Czech Mate

So you have never learned about left foot braking in a fwd car then by the sounds of it.

It's not easy but it's a very useful technique to master, you have to feel the balance and it's easy to bring the back round to help during a corner.

Much harder than just stepping on the loud pedal to achieve the same result

Chip

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FWD as has been mentioned is about compact packaging and improved economy (less drivetrain losses, less weight etc)

If you have a racing series and give people the choice (without weight penalties etc) then the winning cars will be 4wd and then rwd generally speaking.

FWD is a compromise without a doubt, but its one that a lot of manufacturers have learned to work very well with, clio/saxo etc

Spiky

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will have to see all the "MAN's" car's on track ar RS COMBE day in july against my "GAY, BOY" car


i've had all 3 types, and my 205 pedals around all tracks (with me driving) fast than the RWD and 4WD car's i've had and the FWD is the lowest powered one too


rwd is fun, but i prefer it safe and control able

Ash170990

you have to be a better driver to drive a RWD car on its limits as like said its soo much easier to correct understeer rather than over steer, as said FWD is mainly used to keep production costs down plus less weight so the car will be more efficent....

I think my next car will be RWD though as it will be more fun to drive!

Porkie

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Are they? most Lambos are 4wd!! Both current models are 4wd for example (gallardo and Aventador, so was the previous Murcielargo)

Bugatti Veyron is 4wd

Latest Ferrari is also 4wd...

RWD_cossie_wil

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Yep pretty handy at left foot braking, agree it allows a lot more control once you get good at it. The problem is you still don't have the power at the right end coming out of the corner. We can argue to the nth degree about slip angles blah blah blah, my preference is RWD simply due to it being more fun & rewarding.

PileOfRust

Never ending argument... Pointless

Glenn_

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Its the same as the "Which on is best 4wd cossie or 2wd cossie" lol.

Glenn_

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I like rwd cars better but tbh our focus handles well.