flannigan

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Well today is the day the t04e may have become an expensive paper weight lol

cossie4i+

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I found out a bit earlier Johns engine runs a BD16+ inlet cam and a BD14 exhaust cam, what hope have i got now

Steve

Moonstone Steve.

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none lol

Hold your head high tall one, on the road i bet the old green house will be as good if not better

Steve

cossie4i+

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As you well know from bitter past experience

Steve

Turbosystems

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Who needs Rolling roads and hub dyno's when you have Tony's arse Dyno
I was cock on with my arse dyno figures
The Turbo technics T38 is mightier that the sword and a t4 lol
I believe Fraiser has had figures from awesome gti at about the same as he got last time form wgt
So the tall one is still the champion ALDI FTW

Johns fuel leaning issues have been cured afr was 12.2 big up to the mapper lol
however they have been replaced now with spark blow out issues at 6700
so Oh tall one your win is only temporary

Jay,

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So if im reading this correctly Frasier has put his car on another hub dyno at awesome gti and got the same figures what he got at wgt ! so there for stevies figures are correct to then ,and saying that the all new tt38 is the new t4 lol

Turbosystems

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awsome Gti's rolling road not an approved PF dd so it won't count LOL
http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/page.ph...llingroad.html

Jay,

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and was the roller calibrated so it would read in scale with wgt's

Turbosystems

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No idea
all i know is he got around 500 bhp and 430 ish torx approx

cossie4i+

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So what @ hubs figure did John get ?

Steve

Jay,

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Sounds good then lets hope steve's gets the same results

Turbosimpsons

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not enough

Turbosystems

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just as it comes on peak power the spark fucks off
so dodgy coil, leads crank sensor etc etc
we had to drop the boost right down
fix one problem and find 5 more lol

cossie4i+

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So whats that in english lol

Steve

Turbosystems

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Johns figures are pointless really as it had developed a very low rev limiter

cossie4i+

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But his low rev limit is higher than my peak power rpm

So what is it ????

Steve

Turbosystems

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johns peak power with his cam selection is 1k higher than yours and it is at this point it has set itself a safety limiter
it is quite specific even with lower boost

cossie4i+

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WTF was it

Steve

Turbosystems

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I told you on the phone

cossie4i+

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You told me a figure at 10ish this morning then said it wsn't the real figure

Trying to get a @ hubs figure out of you is like you trying to get money out of me

Steve

Turbosystems

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it was about the same as last time
last time the run was aborted as it went lean at 6700
this time it had a self made rev limit which progressively got worse and worse

cossie4i+

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I give up

Steve

Turbosystems

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what part of ABOUT THE SAME AS LAST TIME DON'T YOU GET
we were more concerned with monitoring the data logger for it's run fault
so from memory 465torx 480 ish bhp

cossie4i+

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I take it the 480 ish bhp is a flywheel figure and not a hub figure ?

Steve

Turbosystems

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FFs steve
I think thats what it did last time so yes
all i know is tony's arse dyno is accurate and free
if a bit smelly at times

Turbosimpsons

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the last run was 511bhp @ the flywheel.

scoooby slayer

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what correction factor did they use 1.18 again ?

cossie4i+

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I thought we was only going to quote HUB figures

Steve

Turbosystems

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probably but it was a shoot out day and the power figures weren't of concern the run faults were, so we were using the hub dyno to monitor the data in an attempt to rectify the problem
which appears to be spark blow out
so power runs on it were aborted and I didn't have a new WS ford coil to try in my pocket

Turbosimpsons

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he didn't quote it, i did and it's the only figure i can remember.

scoooby slayer

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there definately the best tony, so much better for tuneing imo, why do they use 1.18 though on rwd cars it baffles me ?
theres plenty of evidence so suggets 1.08 to 1.1 is as correct as it can get. heres a alpina bi turbo bmw

http://www.rri.se/popup/performanceg...p?ChartsID=832

that works out tcf about 1.085 to get correct engine power.

couldnt you of put the coil of ur poooous on it lol

with a coil on each plug the japs ive had so far never have any spark issues, touching wood here

Turbosystems

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the poous is COP
I suspect we possibly have rf interference affecting the pectel 8injector p8 they can be moody like women
looks like we will be fitting the pectel t6 sick of pissing about with emulators and antique laptops and eproms on these webers
John already has one in his box of spares
so T6 it is
and I have no idea why they use 1.18 1.10 is what i used on 4i's but that was a session I booked for this car only not a shoot out day
the hub dyno is far better that RR for mapping couldn't agree with you more
waste of time trying to map on RR if it's over 300 bhp and turbo'd for evey 1 minute of mapping time there is 1 hour of cooling the engine down time lol

scoooby slayer

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im looking forward to seeing them trying to get the supra to grip on some rollers just for a power run lol

you still play zombies fella ?

Turbosystems

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don't forget to video the smokiiiiinngg
don't do zombies now

scoooby slayer

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il defo get a vid will be a laugh im sure
you not on psn at all anymore tony ?

cossie4i+

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Thats around 433 hub power then with a TCF of 1.18

Lets hope you sort your spark problems and find at least another 55bhp hub power

Steve

Turbosystems

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John will be hoping so, you're not really are you though steve
and I'm not that bothered which one of you has the biggest willy

cossie4i+

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You don't want the mighty T4 to fail against a T38 lol

Steve

Turbosystems

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why not
what is the surprise here is the amount of power the Turbo Technics TT38 can actually make in the right hands
even I was supprised firstly by frasers and then yours
it was originally rated at 440

fraser9764

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496bhp and 445ft-lb at the fly.
459bhp at the wheels.
What was the greenhouse figure at the hubs?
I also had a few issues with misfires at the top end on the 2nd and third run, but I think mine is just tired plugs.