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Old 16-05-2012, 08:26 PM
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can't wait for the next thrilling instalment from the dyna pack hub dyno
Johns T4 powered sapph should be back on wgt's dyna pack hub dyno on Saturday.
Last time he got his arse licked by frasers TTt38 and later the tall ones TTT38 kicked both their arses
will the dyno queen be put in his place by the short grumpy one known as john
Old 16-05-2012, 08:37 PM
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If you use enough of that thing called boost then i think yes mate
Old 16-05-2012, 08:46 PM
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Hmmm,spec please.
Old 16-05-2012, 08:54 PM
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Unless you bolt the different turbos to the same car, it is a pointless comparison, but you knew that already ..
Old 16-05-2012, 08:59 PM
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T4 Old skool FTW
Old 16-05-2012, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tarren
T4 Old skool FTW
it lost the battle last time
Old 16-05-2012, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Unless you bolt the different turbos to the same car, it is a pointless comparison, but you knew that already ..
Johns engine is a higher spec but it lost last time lol
well on the bhp front it did but it whipped their arses on torque though
Old 16-05-2012, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
If you use enough of that thing called boost then i think yes mate
that would be cheating 2.2 bar is what we run on t4's and TT t38's so that's what we shall be using for the battle
Old 16-05-2012, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
but it whipped their arses on torque though

Old 16-05-2012, 09:25 PM
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imagine steve getting beaten,imagine the amount of attention seaking threads he would start
Old 16-05-2012, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
imagine steve getting beaten,imagine the amount of attention seaking threads he would start
Oh the drama of it all
going to beat the fooker one way or another
how can we let a mighty cosworth be up staged by an xr4i green house
Old 16-05-2012, 09:37 PM
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Well whatever you do to johns can you replicate it on my green machine ! Lol
Old 16-05-2012, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
Oh the drama of it all
going to beat the fooker one way or another
how can we let a mighty cosworth be up staged by an xr4i green house

4i greenhouse


u can have mine to use to beat his lol
Old 16-05-2012, 09:39 PM
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Like i said on the phone, if you cannot get a T4 to beat a SS TT T38 with a proper specced engine we all better get down to see Luke and Danny then lol

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Old 16-05-2012, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve.
Like i said on the phone, if you cannot get a T4 to beat a SS TT T38 with a proper specced engine we all better get down to see Luke and Danny then lol

Steve

you want another set of pistons then like the ones in your old engine then
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
4i greenhouse


u can have mine to use to beat his lol
I'm good but not sure I'm that good doug but thanks for the offer
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
that would be cheating 2.2 bar is what we run on t4's and TT t38's so that's what we shall be using for the battle
Comparing boost for boost is not a fair comparison, as I'm sure you know...
Two different engines, two different VE's.... 2.2 Bar on one engine does not flow the same as 2.2 bar on another engine of a different spec (cams, manifolds, CR, head work, turbine housing/wheel, etc..)..... Or is this a bit of a joke and I've totally missed it?! lol
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems

you want another set of pistons then like the ones in your old engine then
No not really ta, butttttt it did make more power on the mighty DD rr


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Old 16-05-2012, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by flannigan
Well whatever you do to johns can you replicate it on my green machine ! Lol
only if you promise to change the colour and let us shag your mrs
Old 16-05-2012, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Comparing boost for boost is not a fair comparison, as I'm sure you know...
Two different engines, two different VE's.... 2.2 Bar on one engine does not flow the same as 2.2 bar on another engine of a different spec (cams, manifolds, CR, head work, turbine housing/wheel, etc..)..... Or is this a bit of a joke and I've totally missed it?! lol
it's more to do with the compressor efficiency they are both yb's
Old 16-05-2012, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
only if you promise to change the colour and let us shag your mrs
I love the colour too much to change it ! And you will have to ask her nicely lol
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Can we see pics of said Mrs

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Fook T4s, why don't they man up and go GT42 or summet...

Awaits replies...........

Rod & Ade are the real men on here, T38s T4s, Pish...
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Originally Posted by Staffi_
Fook T4s, why don't they man up and go GT42 or summet...

Awaits replies...........

Rod & Ade are the real men on here, T38s T4s, Pish...



Pete what have you started
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve.
Can we see pics of said Mrs

Steve
If my car makes more power than the greenhouse then I will indulge you lol
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
I'm good but not sure I'm that good doug but thanks for the offer

you fecker but i know your joking
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
it's more to do with the compressor efficiency they are both yb's
They may be both YB's but...
Stock manifolds, smaller turbine, stock cams, stock ports and valve's VS better flowing manifolds, cams, ported head with bigger valves and a bigger turbine... Means the second engine will make more power at the same boost pressure.
I have no experience with YB's so maybe I'm talking crap but surely these principles apply to any engine?

Whilst the compressor plays a big part of course, the actual MAP is down to everything post compressor no?

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Originally Posted by mechanic28
you fecker but i know your joking
Might as well bin the T4 and go for a T34 at your power level
Old 16-05-2012, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi_
Fook T4s, why don't they man up and go GT42 or summet...
Steves up for that he meets mine in August at a Middlesex rsoc RR shootout . Just for a bit of banter will give him 300bhp start & win .
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Might as well bin the T4 and go for a T34 at your power level

thats it will rub it in some more .48 housing as well i presume
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Originally Posted by MadRod
Steves up for that he meets mine in August at a Middlesex rsoc RR shootout . Just for a bit of banter will give him 300bhp start & win .
What did yours make last time out Rod?? 830+??
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
They may be both YB's but...
Stock manifolds, smaller turbine, stock cams, stock ports and valve's VS better flowing manifolds, cams, ported head with bigger valves and a bigger turbine... Means the second engine will make more power at the same boost pressure.
I have no experience with YB's so maybe I'm talking crap but surely these principles apply to any engine?

Whilst the compressor plays a big part of course, the actual MAP is down to everything post compressor no?
wtf you on about
4i's car is not stock and neither is Johns
and even a stock yb is not exactly what I'd call a stock engine that would be the pinto in my old transit lol
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Might as well bin the T4 and go for a T34 at your power level

you biatch
rub salt in an open wound why don't you
Old 16-05-2012, 11:52 PM
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John should win with his better spec engine, but by how much ?

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Originally Posted by Turbosystems

you biatch
rub salt in an open wound why don't you
You have taught me well Obi wan
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Originally Posted by cossie4i+
John should win with his better spec engine, but by how much ?

Steve
it's only a pocket or 2 and a cam or two really
will be interesting to compare back to back the man size TT T38 billet and the mighty old t04e on the same measuring equipment without elastic straps a spinning wheels
Just a though whilst I remember I have some serious bad news re your recent t38 upgrade, looks like it may have been premature
latest development is ceramic bearing assembly so off it comes again
please note that I am completely out of stock and sold out of free t38 upgrades
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
it's only a pocket or 2 and a cam or two really
will be interesting to compare back to back the man size TT T38 billet and the mighty old t04e on the same measuring equipment without elastic straps a spinning wheels
Just a though whilst I remember I have some serious bad news re your recent t38 upgrade, looks like it may have been premature
latest development is ceramic bearing assembly so off it comes again
please note that I am completely out of stock and sold out of free t38 upgrades
these free parts go out of stock frequently cant you stock more

so if the TT38 is man size what does it make chop's t34 sort of 38 feminine size
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Can you not do a "super" mighty t4 with the billet wheel or have you done that already with this one?
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Originally Posted by DAN-Saff
Can you not do a "super" mighty t4 with the billet wheel or have you done that already with this one?
Theres no point the gt3076 or the new gtx range came out lol
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Originally Posted by DAN-Saff
Can you not do a "super" mighty t4 with the billet wheel or have you done that already with this one?
Tony did say that TT can't do a billet wheel for the T4.

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