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Old 14-05-2012, 06:11 PM
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Default Cr turbos t38 any good

As above are these turbos any good, it's in standard form not roller bearing or anything fancy, what power are they good for and what they like for response ,
Old 14-05-2012, 06:13 PM
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the cr one is a bored out t34

you want the man size tt t38 thats the propper one

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Old 14-05-2012, 06:16 PM
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We need a Chop v Cossie4i shoot out to see who's is best, I think i already know the outcome but would still like to see it happen

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Old 14-05-2012, 06:18 PM
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Will do approx 430-440 max with a good head and cams.

Mine made 397 on standard engine.
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Id rather it be more responsive and sacrifice top end power
Old 14-05-2012, 06:28 PM
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Get one of them ones that cossie4i has mate and it will do a zillion hp on an old 205 block mapped by turbosystems!!!lol
Old 14-05-2012, 06:31 PM
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Used to have one on my saph and I really liked it.
Old 14-05-2012, 06:48 PM
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for response and upto 440 bhp I'd suggest you use the Turbo Technics T36r
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
for response and upto 440 bhp I'd suggest you use the Turbo Technics T36r
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What are they like in comparison to a t34/48,
Old 14-05-2012, 07:21 PM
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I had a cr t38 on my old 3dr,with standard ex cam and bd14 inlet cam,live mapped by msd,it was a bit laggy to be honest.Your better off with a tt t38 like cossie4i has or as Tony mentioned maybe the t36r,dependant on what power you want,quck spool up etc.
I hope this helps.Good luck with it all.

Thanks.Lee.
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my old tt t38 is on a mates escos and made 424bhb on dd rollers on a standard engine.. was a brilliant turbo .. wish id have kept it ..
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Originally Posted by 1374lee
I had a cr t38 on my old 3dr,with standard ex cam and bd14 inlet cam,live mapped by msd,it was a bit laggy to be honest.Your better off with a tt t38 like cossie4i has or as Tony mentioned maybe the t36r,dependant on what power you want,quck spool up etc.
I hope this helps.Good luck with it all.

Thanks.Lee.
I thought it was the tt t38 that's the laggy one
Old 14-05-2012, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ginner
What are they like in comparison to a t34/48,
available with either .48 .55 or .63 turbine housings
the .48 version will struggle to make 380 bhp
.55 t36 is by far the best compromise
Old 14-05-2012, 07:32 PM
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Default The right turbo for the job?

Hi guys I am new to passion ford and I thought I might try your vast knowlege on this matter. I have a Sapphire with 200 block, fully ported head,BD10 and 14 Cams,siamese 8rail manifold and lots of other bits. its currently running a T4 which is laggy and a little smokey now, I need to change it for a new rollerbearing type its currently running 487hp which is good power but very laggy mid end, GT30 or GT35 possibly a 3076r any body running these turbo,s???? thanks guys.
Old 14-05-2012, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter Hurst
Hi guys I am new to passion ford and I thought I might try your vast knowlege on this matter. I have a Sapphire with 200 block, fully ported head,BD10 and 14 Cams,siamese 8rail manifold and lots of other bits. its currently running a T4 which is laggy and a little smokey now, I need to change it for a new rollerbearing type its currently running 487hp which is good power but very laggy mid end, GT30 or GT35 possibly a 3076r any body running these turbo,s???? thanks guys.
what power are you wanting?
Old 14-05-2012, 07:47 PM
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we run a cr t38 on our zetec turbo, made 407bhp @2bar brill set up, very little lag, but thats on our engine..
Old 14-05-2012, 08:31 PM
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Would like to keep up in the late 400's but need more responce lower down unlike the old T4 needs... to flow upto 500HP idealy...
Old 14-05-2012, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter Hurst
Hi guys I am new to passion ford and I thought I might try your vast knowlege on this matter. I have a Sapphire with 200 block, fully ported head,BD10 and 14 Cams,siamese 8rail manifold and lots of other bits. its currently running a T4 which is laggy and a little smokey now, I need to change it for a new rollerbearing type its currently running 487hp which is good power but very laggy mid end, GT30 or GT35 possibly a 3076r any body running these turbo,s???? thanks guys.
a gt3071 will spool earlier but makes less power than a t04e
the gt3076 will be lagier than a t04e a gt35 will surge it's tits off on a 2.0l yb
try one of the gtx range
there are better cam configurations than the ones you have

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Thanks for the advice.. whats the diffrence with the GTX product over the standard one?
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Old 14-05-2012, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter Hurst
Thanks for the advice.. whats the diffrence with the GTX product over the standard one?
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Old 14-05-2012, 08:56 PM
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Whats the maximum you can get out of the GTx3071s? YB, low comp, standard head, standard exhaust cam, BD14 inlet? I'm guessing it'd come on boost quicker than a t34 with a .63, but would it make more power?
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
Whats the maximum you can get out of the GTx3071s? YB, low comp, standard head, standard exhaust cam, BD14 inlet? I'm guessing it'd come on boost quicker than a t34 with a .63, but would it make more power?
you'd use a .82 turbine housing on the gtx
and you'd be better changing the bd14 to a much higher lift slightly shorter duration inlet
Old 14-05-2012, 09:06 PM
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Its something i'm seriously considering if (when ) I blow my t34 out of the bay Either that or a small housing 3076.
Old 14-05-2012, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
Whats the maximum you can get out of the GTx3071s? YB, low comp, standard head, standard exhaust cam, BD14 inlet? I'm guessing it'd come on boost quicker than a t34 with a .63, but would it make more power?
Take a look at my project thread. Click link in my sig. Not a GTx3071 but a normal 3071. Standard head, exhuast cam but a MAD inlet cam. Good results
Old 14-05-2012, 09:24 PM
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Gtx will do over 500 ponies afaik
Old 14-05-2012, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Take a look at my project thread. Click link in my sig. Not a GTx3071 but a normal 3071. Standard head, exhuast cam but a MAD inlet cam. Good results
but you ran 38 squillion pounds of boooooooooost
Old 14-05-2012, 09:57 PM
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I had the roller bearing T38 and made 456hp iirc
Old 14-05-2012, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
but you ran 38 squillion pounds of boooooooooost
Not really. 2.4 bar peak on the rollers and 480 bhp was made at 2 bar. So not squliions of psi at all Plus no point in having a great big air pump bolted to your engine and not using it.
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different figures to what your sig says rich
and 480 bhp at 2 bar is far less believable on a std head than 4i's 490 at the hubs on a flowed and ported head at 2,23 bar roflol

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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
different figures to what your sig says rich
All power / torque figures are wrong

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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
different figures to what your sig says rich
and 480 bhp at 2 bar is far less believable on a std head than 4i's 490 at the hubs on a flowed and ported head at 2,23 bar roflol
Thats 480 flywheel not wheels and yes 2.5 bar on the road maybe 2.6 peak
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if you didn't win the prize for the most power you certainly won it for the most boost
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Originally Posted by cossie4i+
All power / torque figures are wrong

Steve
only the high ones
no one questions low power figures
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
if you didn't win the prize for the most power you certainly won it for the most boost
I think rod took that with 2.8 bar on that gt42 !
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Take a look at my project thread. Click link in my sig. Not a GTx3071 but a normal 3071. Standard head, exhuast cam but a MAD inlet cam. Good results
I always assumed yours was a 3076

That settles it then, 3071 is the turbo for me when i need one.
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
I think rod took that with 2.8 bar on that gt42 !
a gt42 is a high pressure turbo a gt30 isn't
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Great replies here just one thing though tony, I notice your giving out a lot of free advice lol is that because Steve is on his way home and has given you another large wedge of cash
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Tone the moan for your mapping
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
I always assumed yours was a 3076

That settles it then, 3071 is the turbo for me when i need one.
No mate. 3071.

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