Pensions Question
Just wondering if anyone knows, im sure someone does.
What is a reasonable anual amount to have from a pension fund when you are retired? (ie, you get say £X,000 per year).
Anyone know what a decent amount to have would be, bearing in mind most people will have paid their mortagages by retirement.
Cheers
What is a reasonable anual amount to have from a pension fund when you are retired? (ie, you get say £X,000 per year).
Anyone know what a decent amount to have would be, bearing in mind most people will have paid their mortagages by retirement.
Cheers
Bit of an open question mate, depends on how much you will want to spend
Just add it up,
Food
Car (if you're still able to see past the end of the bonnet)
False teeth
Viagra
At the moment I *think* I am paying about £145 /m into my pension - work put some in as well
Just add it up,
Food
Car (if you're still able to see past the end of the bonnet)
False teeth
Viagra
At the moment I *think* I am paying about £145 /m into my pension - work put some in as well
Cheers Steve, I guess it is an open question!
Anyone know any average yearly pension amounts? (Not amounts paid in, but, the amount you will recieve from it per year in retirement?)
Anyone know any average yearly pension amounts? (Not amounts paid in, but, the amount you will recieve from it per year in retirement?)
Well the pension scheme I am in (local government) is probably the best scheme type (benefit wise) that you could be in and mine will return me (bearing in mind that I complete 40yrs service) 50% of my final salary (index linked) on retirement until I die, together with a lump sum payment that is in the region of 2 x your salary on retirement tax free (I think it's 2 times or is it 1... cant remember).

So for normal pensions you could probably devide that by 4 to get a figure!
TBH If I retired now on a full pension I could comfortably live (based on present salary)
So hopefully I wont have anything to worry about when I'm 65..... saying that though I will probably die at 66
So for normal pensions you could probably devide that by 4 to get a figure!
TBH If I retired now on a full pension I could comfortably live (based on present salary)
So hopefully I wont have anything to worry about when I'm 65..... saying that though I will probably die at 66
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Jeez tho Phil, your in your early 20s, live a bit, worry about pensions another time!
480 payments to provide for the rest of your life
Lets forget about growth for a moment
£100(gross)per month Stakeholder Pension =£48k to last from 65-whenever.
Most people want to retire at 50
So £48k reduces to £30k assuming £100 monthly payment.Scarry Hu?
Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
I plan to die before that sorta age so il be ok
Jeez tho Phil, your in your early 20s, live a bit, worry about pensions another time!
Jeez tho Phil, your in your early 20s, live a bit, worry about pensions another time!
It has to be said (without sounding like a dad) that is the WORST kind of advice you could give anyone. People that heed that advice will end up not having a pot to piss in when they retire.
While those are selling the big issue at 65, i'll drive past them in my latest brand new car, cigar hanging out of my mouth, laughing my arse off!

Amen!
Reason I am asking isnt because im about to start a pension scheme (as im still in Uni, no income!)....though I will as soon as i get a fulltime job.
Was trying to compare it to the RAF Pension scheme, which as far as I can realisticly work out, you would be on between £10k/yr-£25k depending on length of service and promitions etc.....as well as a 3xPension Salary lump sum on retirrement (say 3x£10k or whatever).
In theory, after 16yr service, I would be say 40ish, and retire with a 30k lump sum and £10k/yr for life form then on.
Was trying to compare it to what people in normal jobs have? (Hence asking how much youd need).
Bit sad maybe! But thought Id look into it all (as im thinking of joining RAF if they will have me after uni...)
Was trying to compare it to the RAF Pension scheme, which as far as I can realisticly work out, you would be on between £10k/yr-£25k depending on length of service and promitions etc.....as well as a 3xPension Salary lump sum on retirrement (say 3x£10k or whatever).
In theory, after 16yr service, I would be say 40ish, and retire with a 30k lump sum and £10k/yr for life form then on.
Was trying to compare it to what people in normal jobs have? (Hence asking how much youd need).
Bit sad maybe! But thought Id look into it all (as im thinking of joining RAF if they will have me after uni...)
Not ALL pensions are bad. At the end of the day you only get out what you put in. Anybody that thinks by sticking £100 a month as the only contribution in to a pension scheme will see them right for a stable future after retirement, is being very niave.... it's horses for courses.
At the end of the day my missus is an only child, and she only has her father left. Now when he pops his cloggs we would without doubt have enough money to be comfortable from that inheritance alone...... but at the end of the day, you NEVER know what may happen, so in the meantime I pay a pension, the missus pays a pension and we both have more insurance policies than Greenlight!
When your future is concerned you can never put aside enough money.
At the end of the day my missus is an only child, and she only has her father left. Now when he pops his cloggs we would without doubt have enough money to be comfortable from that inheritance alone...... but at the end of the day, you NEVER know what may happen, so in the meantime I pay a pension, the missus pays a pension and we both have more insurance policies than Greenlight!

When your future is concerned you can never put aside enough money.
Just to add.....
I don't want to sound arrogant or up my own arse in what I have said (as it may of come across), as £10 a week in a pension (or whatever) is better than fook all and I have the full philosophy that money is no good to me when i'm dead, but you have to try and be realistic and think about the day when your not actually earning and you havent won the lottery!
"something" will always be worth more than "nothing"
I don't want to sound arrogant or up my own arse in what I have said (as it may of come across), as £10 a week in a pension (or whatever) is better than fook all and I have the full philosophy that money is no good to me when i'm dead, but you have to try and be realistic and think about the day when your not actually earning and you havent won the lottery!

"something" will always be worth more than "nothing"
Originally Posted by PhilM
Reason I am asking isnt because im about to start a pension scheme (as im still in Uni, no income!)...)
Be carefull, im lucky im in a final salary pension so can calculate what it will be. This type of Pension will not exist in the future. The normal Pension schemes have fallen apart in the last ten years & people have seen their expectations halfed.
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Pensions IMHO are not worth the paper they are wrote on.
The only reason I'm in my companys money purchase scheme is cos they put in twice what I do.
IPP/stakeholders etc are a waste of time imo, unless you rich and want a little tax dodge
Bloody hell Fagin, that sounds fantastic. I worry as a 22 year old that there will be no state pension by the time I am old and that if I save £50k I'll still struggle to live past 5 years on it. I dunno what this country will do in years to come to be honest.
And Phil, what you get back is very much dependent on what you put in on a contributions based private pension scheme.
And Phil, what you get back is very much dependent on what you put in on a contributions based private pension scheme.
You would be aswell Investing the money that you would be paying into a pension
if you dont have a half dedent one , cause it seems like everyone just gets screwew in the end anyway.
if you dont have a half dedent one , cause it seems like everyone just gets screwew in the end anyway.
Originally Posted by BlueSmoke
Bloody hell Fagin, that sounds fantastic.

It's a hard life.
Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Originally Posted by Fagin
When your future is concerned you can never put aside enough money.
Well said Shaun
Just my thought, Save yeah but dont go with out too
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