slippytoe

Hi guys, OK so I took my Moneo 2.0 TDCI MK3 into my garage to get a new flywheel, clutch and clutch release bearing. The main reason for me taking it in was because the engine was rattling quite noisily whilst idling and started to squawk when firing it up occasionally, so it needed to be done. Anyway, I went for the single mass flywheel conversion and all was well until I got it back and the clutch was slipping (BADLY), so I took it back and he put a dual mass flywheel in it with all the other correct clutch and so on. Now I have it back with no slipping clutch but it's still a little bit rattly on idle and it judders slightly when pulling away in first gear. I am wondering whether mondeo TDCI's with dual mass flywheels installed are just slightly rattly anyway. In the time that i had it with the single mass flywheel it sounded wonderful, all I could hear on idle was a slight diesel tick, very quiet and now I'm back to a semi intermittent rattle. Rather annoyed to be honest, £680 later and I have just got myself more problems. Please tell me that this is just how Mondeo's are and that the judder will settle down. I only got it back last night so it's not had much time of me driving it if that makes a difference.

DanW@FastFord

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If it makes more/less noise when you depress the clutch take it straight back.

The TDCI is a noisy and unrefined engine, and it's common for the tensioner to rattle its nuts off - but there should be no sound at all coming from the clutch.

daviddunlop83

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The crankshaft pulleys are common issue to rattle. Have you checked that and the tensioner?

Tho wouldnt make the clutch slip

DanW@FastFord

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If it's noisy at idle and a slight increase in revs makes the rattle stop, it's the tensioner - You can see if it is by looking down the driver's side of the engine where the pulley/aux belt is. If it's rattling you'll see the belt/tensionner/pulley wobbling. They can go on for thousands of miles like it so it's not urgent. But as I said, if the noise changes with the clutch, then that's a cause for concern.

slippytoe

Well, like I said before, I had the single mass flywheel on for a short while and it sounded fine, no rattle what so ever. So I doubt it's te crank pulley unless the dmf is making it wobble... I am not sure if it sounds better or worse with clutch in/out I will have to check. Thanks for the replies so far.

lewiseyers

i got the same motor 161,000mls just had new duel mass fitted £500 by jag andy/cam engineering/ ash automotive ,ash automotive 01474 873057 andy .......... be aware that your starter motor is proberbly about to go now as its a problem caused by fly wheel failure.

andy is best mechanic around very well respected by the local motor trade

now my cars fine clutch wise but i have the rattle/squeek

some times it sounds like a budgie is under the bonnett!!

its the pullys on the belt tensioners nothing major to do i was told best to do them both about£250

Philevans2010

Hi can any one help have mondeo tdci 52 plate hand new flywheel kit fitted and the about 8 weeks later the starter motor jamed up had it replaced and the very next day my new starter started to buzz the turn key again and it would start but every time I start the car the makes a funny noise or what I think is the starter can someone advise me it a great car is this a common problem?

st3v3

The starter should be fine if it was cleaned at the time of new DMF etc..unless it was knackered before hand and the crap from DMF has made it worse.

Also did anyone bother to have the crank seal replaced at the same time of DMF being done, the seal costs about £5 but starts to weep, so you end up paying a fecking fortune out for a £5 seal caus you have basicaly take EVERYTHING out as if a DMF replacement.


The bottom crank pully is more common that the aux tensioner and id change that before the aux tesioner, they cost about £100 from Ford, make the same noise as if the aux tension was failing also.
Albeit the tensioner is an issue and cant be discounted.

Philevans2010

The starter was broken be fore I think it just just having a new fitted and the same happing again the next day am I missing something

lewiseyers

if the starter was replaced before the dmf then there will still be damage to the new starter from the tiny metal filings from the failing dmf , which will cause the new starter to fail again over a period of time.. i run a 02 plate tdci and have had these issues. id say the noise is the crank pullys from experience ..

lewiseyers

sounds like the pullys not the dmf put your foot on the throttle to bring the revs up 300 rpm from idle ...does the rattle go if so its the pullys.. about £300/350 for both inc fitting

chappy7575

ive got a 54 plate 2.2 tdci its just started to rattel when pulling off in first gear and when in neutral when i dip the clutch im thinking its the flywheel but it drives fine since iv had the car but the noise seems to be from the belt area could it be the pully and the belt tensioner or if it was the flywheel would the clutch not slip

lewiseyers

sounds like the dmf....... as the pullies make a noise like birds chirping at tick over as the revs rise a little they silance... the dmf makes the rattle sound ... it the noise thats the clue there as well as the symptoms..

my dmf was 530 fitted by ash automotive new ash green near brands hatch kent also known as cad engineering the jag specialist... this garage is top notch.. took them 3 hours to fit mine....thats un heard off... ive used this mechanic for 15 years and trust no other

mine drove for 3 thousand miles on the rattle and ended up buggering the starter motor too.. good idea to have the starter motor pinion cleaned off....

for the record my pullies are both gone but the car will run with them chirping for miles ....to replace both was quoted at 280ish tops..

chappy7575

thanks mate im taking the car in to toyota only because the wife has worked there for years and gets good discount so il be telling the poor sod how to do his job because its a ford hes working on

Drpepper99uk

Hi,

Does anyone have contact details for Ash Engineering/ Automotive? Tried a google search and nothing came back.

Mike.

Retro Al

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I was told the sqeeking on start up is the EGR cleaning it self?

lewiseyers

ash automotive 01474 873057 andy

new ash green near brands hatch kent

lewiseyers

egr does not clean it self....it cokes up needs scrapeing out with inlet manifold to clean

lewiseyers

i seem to remember andy at ash automotive doing this to mine ...i did not ask him to tho

chappy7575

it was my flywheel not the bottom pully had a new clutch fitted to drives like a dream again not cheap tho £1000 i paid for both but thats cheap iv been told

lewiseyers

the parts are 360 quid and its 3 hours labour ish job ... there is a seal to be done and the clutch slave cylinder too... i paid 530 at ash automotive the number is in this thread some were for them.

i paid £530 fitted,even tho he quoted me 650 worst case scenario, i was well chuffed, even thought the cars only worth 1500-1800 quid....its been such a good car i thought it was money well spent

glad your sorted now though