conor.rst

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hello chaps.

MY escort won't be done for a long long while so I'm looking at possible getting a cheap track day toy i can blast around the track. something with bait of grunt would be nice. even if its something i have to drop a exhaust and some coilovers and other parts on .....

will consider anything other than 172 or 182

what are you thoughts ? civic maybe ? or a 106gti .....

Glenn_

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Clio sport.

Glenn_

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Mk5 fiesta zetec s

Glenn_

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Impreza cheap now.Might go through a few engines.

Chip

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Clio 172

Matt Evans

How cheap?

Budget fun - Primera GT

Bit more - 306 gti6

Even more - clio 172

Lot more - m3 etc etc

Chip

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I'd say more like:

budget fun - tatty phase 1 172

bit more - tidy phase 1 172

even more - tidy phase 1 or a phase 2 cup 172, and then get new suspension

lot more - m3

conor.rst

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idealy id like to pay 1k or something but ill be realistic. was looking at v-tec civics around 2. can't stand clios but they seem to be the obvious choice

Matt Evans

I sense a theme brewing here Chip?

Chip

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Ive been in SO many different trackday cars over the years and the clio 172 really does seem to be a particuarly good package, especially when you factor in how usable they are as a spare daily driver too.

My mrs uses ours for everything from commuting a couple of miles to work, to visting family a 400 mile round trip away to doing trackdays in, they just do everything pretty well and for not a lot of money.

SiZT

19 16V for mega cheap fun or Saxo vts, clio 172 etc...

zetec-Sam

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So you'd happily bypass the ideal cheap trackday car, because you 'can't stand them'? What can't you stand about them?

conor.rst

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no not at all i can't stand them but if they are the obvious winner then id consider it.

zetec-Sam

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Fair enough, but what's wrong with them?

conor.rst

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just personal taste i think. they are great cars I'm sure just never liked them

Mike C

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If you want something on the cheap, purely to track it's about how they drive rather and nothing else really. Pound for pound and out of the box they are ideally suited.

Aside from them I'd get an early WRX Impreza.

Chip

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Downside to an imprezza is the fact it wears out tyres at twice the rate a clio does.
Great cars for the money, but if you are doing lots of trackdays, more expensive to run.

maxest

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I'd recommend a clio dont think anyones mentioned them yet

Porkie

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My Clios been great.... Cheap to run? Err? Hahahha

Am about to get landed with a truely horrific bill from chip as well!

I would reccomend then though for sure.

Chip

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Cheap to run for normal people not ones who do 10,000 track miles in them a year at full race pace

gouch1

id go for saxo vts

Chip

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Great handling cars and cheap to buy (although actually starting to creep up a bit now as they get rarer) but I dont like the lack of torque.

Porkie

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True! Still when u look at what cars worth? Horror bill! Even with you getting it all done cheaply for me!

How's it all coming along?

Porkie

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Saxo or 306 excellent options too.

Clio just edges for me being mostly newer and nice road cars to.

Porkie

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Puma good to although lacking power really

russ rs

Puma 1.7 on carbs grand easy

Madgit

Lee just beat me to it. 1.7 Puma's a great little tool for small tracks, no fun for Hangar straight tho but comparable power to a standard RST for reference and far better handling. Still go for Clio if I had about 2k to spend though. Don't forget to factor brake upgrades though so anything between Ł150 and Ł300 depending on what you want.also BMW 3 series or MX5

Java=Blue

Mr2's, 80's supras, 200sx , bmw coupe , clio172 , 2.0 fiesta, saxo vts, mk5 fiesta zetec-s, quite a lot to choose from lol

gouch1

this would be good with a little work and its cheap
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...ified/94536636

Chip

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We seem to have clios all over the place at the moment

Fil

Its French

Chip

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Currently still waiting for the arrival of (but already ordered):
New Helix uprated organic clutch
Forged Pistons/ Steel Rods
ARP head bolts

Bare block has gone off to machine shop but is waiting for the pistons before it can be finished.

Phase 1 head has gone to Neil Roper for inspection of valve guides etc and to do any work required.

Mike is going to remake the existing looms rather than order new as he thinks he can salvage it into something less likely to catch fire than it is currently without needing to completely replace.

Cam cover has gone off for sand blasting and powder coating, other engine parts have been vapour blasted to clean them up.

Cams STILL "coming soon"
(will order different if no news when Mike goes to collect the pistons and rods which are meant to be in tomorrow)
Valves the only uprated ones readily available (ie not a 3-6 months wait like from G&s) are supertech, im still trying to find out if they are one or two piece though, ktec either dont know or wont say, and supertech im still waiting on details of.
If they are two piece, there is no point going for them instead of the renault ones as the temps involved wont melt the renault ones so the only risk is head depature from stem, and that will be a risk on any 2 piece anyway so pointless paying extra if the others are 2 piece too.
Im of the opinion the standard ones should be fine if new though given the lack of extreme nature of the build (ie its going to be mapped a touch rich to keep it safe and its not going to be on a mega high rev limiter either, probably 7600rpm), will talk to you about that more once I have more info though.



Other than the cams and valves it all seems to be going pretty much according to plan so far for it to start going back together next week, then the week after we'll run it and then remap it, and it should hopefully be back to you comfortably before the bedford RS day.

Porkie

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Sweet

Ta mate!

Mike C

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That's why I'd recommend a Clio first and foremost or other such light FWD cars.

Puma 1.7 is a fantastic car, a fair bit down on power compared to the Clio though. Very spritely on the B-Roads, but the lack of outright power would show more on most circuits.

conor.rst

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scoobys seem to be cheap. something like a turbo 2000 ? pros and cons ? any good round the track ....

Chip

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Even the race puma (which is in a different price bracket anyway) isnt as quick as the clio for straight line pace.

Puma's handle well, but the power deficit is just too much for me to ever pick one over a clio.

Madgit

So is a Type 35 Bugatti and I'd love one of those lol.

Madgit

Think in your price range it would be in the pits more than on the track. Very very used and abused now unfortunately.

Java=Blue

Rover coupe turbo

Porkie

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Why not use your RS Turbo?