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Old 04-01-2012, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
Good fun from the rear then lol u got pics on here of it


Yes there u go mate..

https://passionford.com/forum/pictur...f-the-3dr.html
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Get some pics of your saph up pip
Haven't really got any good ones waitin on aide sending me some he took but here's what I got just now









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Originally Posted by rsmat
That is absaloute mint and my dream car a gleaming white 3 door do you drive it? And have u since then started modding it I'd be scared lol
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Get some pics of your saph up pip
U got a thread on your mate few of my mates seen it at a show and says it was cracker
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
That is absaloute mint and my dream car a gleaming white 3 door do you drive it? And have u since then started modding it I'd be scared lol

It's getting painted again ( underneath restoration )... And being heavily modified...

It gets drove.

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Originally Posted by rs_traynor
no one gives a fuck what hes trappin mate the point is its a fast cossie actually its rapid! 5 up and still pulls through every gear hard!

pip had a full car and pished on my mates rb320 and hes not shy in the scoob, sayin that pip youv no done 183 mph so must be talkin pish

its quicker than mine off the mark not untill iv no lag that i start catchin! (only cause youv got more grip yi cunt )
Let's no go there again mate thread nearly got killed but turned out good and yeh always did say 4x4 is pish till I got one lol and yeh fair point you'd catch me on a long enough road but up the strip think your big turbo would just think about spooling while mines is taking its next breath lol na but shoul be interesting when back on the road with Siemens n a good chip n that be alot of petrol getting used that nite we're out
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Originally Posted by rsmat
It's getting painted again ( underneath restoration )... And being heavily modified...

It gets drove.
Hats off to you I wouldn't wanna touch it but hey big powers the one lol u got pics of it all modified or is it still in the process
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
Hats off to you I wouldn't wanna touch it but hey big powers the one lol u got pics of it all modified or is it still in the process

I have all the items to bolt on and get mapped... These should do the trick..











All brand new boost water and aux black silicone hoses and loads more to fit... And my AP 6 paddle and 330 4 pots for the front and 300mm rear set up

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Wow mate looks like a lot of goodys to put a smile on your face what turbo is it that and what sort of power you going for I'm guessing the 3 doors a keeper
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Turbos a maram shafted T34.48... And what ever James and Stu @MSD can squeeze
Out of it..
Old 04-01-2012, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
Let's no go there again mate thread nearly got killed but turned out good and yeh always did say 4x4 is pish till I got one lol and yeh fair point you'd catch me on a long enough road but up the strip think your big turbo would just think about spooling while mines is taking its next breath lol na but shoul be interesting when back on the road with Siemens n a good chip n that be alot of petrol getting used that nite we're out
yours is crazy goin off the line, instant power 4x4 manifold must have alot to do with it. id change mine but dunno if it would fuck it up, map ways or if it would run the same but not as laggy! mate theres always some amount of petrol gettin used when ever were out lol

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Originally Posted by rsmat
Turbos a maram shafted T34.48... And what ever James and Stu @MSD can squeeze
Out of it..
when all that gettin fitted mat?
Old 04-01-2012, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
Haven't really got any good ones waitin on aide sending me some he took but here's what I got just now









Looking good mate
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A query slightly more on topic.

Does anyone actually make modern bolt on turbochargers for Cossies in the 4-450bhp range ?

ie one that will offer full boost around 3k and still make 450bhp ?

There are a few available for Subarus based around GT cores with new billet wheels, and they really work well.

Or are Cossies still stuck with the ancient T-series ?
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
A query slightly more on topic.

Does anyone actually make modern bolt on turbochargers for Cossies in the 4-450bhp range ?

ie one that will offer full boost around 3k and still make 450bhp ?

There are a few available for Subarus based around GT cores with new billet wheels, and they really work well.

Or are Cossies still stuck with the ancient T-series ?

anything with a T3 flange should fit, may just require a new downpipe
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Originally Posted by rs_traynor
when all that gettin fitted mat?

As we speak mate..
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Originally Posted by Rollinz
anything with a T3 flange should fit, may just require a new downpipe

I know anything can be made to fit. That wasnt my question.

It was are any of the companies actually offering any direct replacement modern turbochargers ?

I doubt anyone with a Cossie would want to spend near Ł2k on an expensive custom made turbo for a Subaru then adapt your manifold again to make it fit.

Or is the market just too small for the Cossies these days ?
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
I know anything can be made to fit. That wasnt my question.

It was are any of the companies actually offering any direct replacement modern turbochargers ?

I doubt anyone with a Cossie would want to spend near Ł2k on an expensive custom made turbo for a Subaru then adapt your manifold again to make it fit.

Or is the market just too small for the Cossies these days ?

i dont know what you mean???

a GTX30 for example would fit the cossie manifold...
capable of 600 bhp
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Originally Posted by rsmat
As we speak mate..
roll on summer then mate cant wait to see it all done now
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Originally Posted by rs_traynor
roll on summer then mate cant wait to see it all done now


Yup I'm wanting a very punchy point to point car.... Roll on the summer.
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well looks like no hesitation from you mate or expense spared going the full hog are you like it would be good to see it in action will it be at ford fair
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
A query slightly more on topic.

Does anyone actually make modern bolt on turbochargers for Cossies in the 4-450bhp range ?

ie one that will offer full boost around 3k and still make 450bhp ?

There are a few available for Subarus based around GT cores with new billet wheels, and they really work well.

Or are Cossies still stuck with the ancient T-series ?
i would look at the borg warner or turbonetics range, from what ive read and been told they tend to make decent boost upto 700rpm earlier than the equivalent garrets and make good power too, ive not personally had experience with them tho
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
well looks like no hesitation from you mate or expense spared going the full hog are you like it would be good to see it in action will it be at ford fair


It will be at fordfair but only on display.
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Sorry if its been mentioned.. Nos. our change your gearing for more acceleration.
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I would go with a set of 55's and a msd chip if your running a standard engine.
If your looking to spend a bit more i would go GT3071 on your 4wd manifold and fit a AB07 inlet unless you have valve pockets in which case you can go BD14.
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nice def have a look out for it mat and liker not really looking to go down the nos route or gearing just like to keep it simple with injectors etc but thanks all the same
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
nice def have a look out for it mat and liker not really looking to go down the nos route or gearing just like to keep it simple with injectors etc but thanks all the same

Cheers mate... You won't go wrong with 55's and cooler.
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Originally Posted by NEIL A
I would go with a set of 55's and a msd chip if your running a standard engine.
If your looking to spend a bit more i would go GT3071 on your 4wd manifold and fit a AB07 inlet unless you have valve pockets in which case you can go BD14.
yeh thats the route im going down mate 55s n chip and cooler and keep the 4x4 manifold, what was the reason you kept the 4x4 manifold on yours my mates got it now lovely car and bit of a beast with hardley any lag how did u manage it?
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Originally Posted by rsmat
Cheers mate... You won't go wrong with 55's and cooler.
dont think i will mate seems to be the best plan ill report back on here in the march when its ford day at crail to see the difrence lol
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The main reason i kept the 4wd manifold was so I could keep the standard heatshield , but also it helps resopnce at the cost of a little at the top end but you can still see 500 bhp on the 4wd manifold.
I found that I had less lag on the GT30 than on the T34.63 that was on the car but i also changed the exhaust cam and inlet cam timing at the same time. That and good mapping and setting up between Sitech and MSD.
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Originally Posted by Rollinz
i dont know what you mean???

a GTX30 for example would fit the cossie manifold...
capable of 600 bhp
I meant exactly what I said.

A modern unit that bolts on without any fabrication work that will offer full boost by about 3k and still have the ability for say 450bhp.

Nowhere did I say 600bhp

Originally Posted by botters
i would look at the borg warner or turbonetics range, from what ive read and been told they tend to make decent boost upto 700rpm earlier than the equivalent garrets and make good power too, ive not personally had experience with them tho
See above

Something basically to perform better than the typical T34 in every way, spool faster and make more power. As a simple and easy first step upgrade that would cover most buyers.

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Gt30 needs very little effort to fit, just fit a v band for downpipe basically.
Might even be possible to spec with the cosworth 3 bolt backend.

Not much point targeting new products at cossies now in the grand scheme of things, small worldwide Market even though still popular here.
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Gear box - 6 speed sequential, close ratio = no lag....
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Good call.

Boxes often make more difference to lap times than more power!

Trouble is a decent box is telephone numbers!
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what's the first telephone number that comes to mind? for me it's 999. that's not much for a gearbox
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Originally Posted by Chip
Gt30 needs very little effort to fit, just fit a v band for downpipe basically.
Might even be possible to spec with the cosworth 3 bolt backend.

Not much point targeting new products at cossies now in the grand scheme of things, small worldwide Market even though still popular here.

Direct bolt on Chip on both 2wd and 4wd manifold, the oil drain is a bit of a pain on 4wd but it does go. I seen 440 bhp and was seeing over 1 bar by 3000 rpm on the road with a low comp engine.



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GT30 would be good but wouldn't it fuck a 4x4 box though Neil ? If only wanting a bit more power than what he has now then maybe a GT28 ??
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Originally Posted by rsmat
I have all the items to bolt on and get mapped... These should do the trick..











All brand new boost water and aux black silicone hoses and loads more to fit... And my AP 6 paddle and 330 4 pots for the front and 300mm rear set up
And I thought I spoiled my cossie Matt lol. She'll go well with all those goodies fitted mate
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Cheers pal.
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So what is the story with 4x4 gearboxes then I've been lead to believe that there too soft and can't handle power but when I got a red saph last year tht had done 280k mile with a 500 touring car spec engine it still had a standard 4x4 box n diffs in it, so when I called up graham Goode to talk about the car I queried that and he says has had standard box all it's days and was strong enough for 480bhp?


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