wimwerf

i was looking on the mitsubishi LR...a lot of these guys saying AP discs warping to much. and they find the calipers dont bite hard enough...

this was also told by a lot of guys on a dutch forum.

i keep it hearing (reading) from a lot of guys on different forums....

is AP really that bad....they find brembo also not good enough..

on this site i only hear good things about AP...

so are there some people which has problems or arent happy with AP

im just curious...

wim

wimwerf

and for Mike R...dont start about the dutch thing...

ADUSR33

the only problem i found when i had my ap's was that they nearly cataputled u through the windscreen

Good brakes mate

turbinator

why why why ...

just fit the damn things and find out yourself..

Rich@rd

PMSLAO

Wim.. Just get them damn mo's, fit the brakes and have a lot of fun with them

wimwerf

thats not what i asked Pim...

wimwerf

another one who cant read....

Mike Rainbird

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Wim,
You really are a muppet .

1. How do you know the APs were fitted correctly on the Evos (as in the hub faces meticulously cleaned - this is ESSENTIAL)?
2. The Evos have problems with warping the hubs.
3. The Evos have wheel-bearing problems.
4. Just fucking fit them to the car you complete joey and stop asking the dumbest questions in the history of dumb questions .
5. You car is NOT an Evo (in case up hadn't noticed ).
6. Find a Cossie owner (that hasn't fitted EBC pads ) that has had a problem with APs .
7. You don't deserve good brakes .
8. You're giving Dutch people a bad name .

St3V3_C

Says it all really

I've only ever heard good things too

wimwerf

Mike R......

1...i dont know...but there not all stupid i guess
2...i dont know either
3...same as 2
4...fook you....where not as smart as you...and i just wanna know if someone also had any problems..
5...i know my car isnt an EVO..
6...thats why im asking....because i didnt hear anything about it...
7...why do you think you deserve good brakes...because your gay..
8...what do you know about dutch people....you english men are the ones with the japanese and australian whos driving on the wrong side of the road...

turbinator

no its not what you asked...

youre making a lot of fuss over nothing..

what if 5 people tell you on here that there bad brakes.. then what ?
you wont fit them and send them back ?? get real ..

you already KNOW that there good.. otherwise you wouldnt have bought them ?

no one is complaining about AP brakes on Fords..

all other stuff you find is concerning jap crap ..

so whats the point of this stupid question ?

it could be only valid if you asked this BEFORE you bought the brakes..

Mike Rainbird

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1...i dont know...but there not all stupid i guess
But not as stupid as somone not a million miles away

2...i dont know either
You do now

3...same as 2
As above

4...fook you....where not as smart as you...and i just wanna know if someone also had any problems..
You've ALREADY been told they're the bollocks by EVERYONE on this site

5...i know my car isnt an EVO..
So why are you looking at info from Evo owners?

6...thats why im asking....because i didnt hear anything about it...
If they were crap, don't you think you would have .

7...why do you think you deserve good brakes...because your gay..
I don't, they obviously REALLY crap. I tell you what, as they are so crap, I'll take them off your hands for £800? .

8...what do you know about dutch people....you english men are the ones with the japanese and australian whos driving on the wrong side of the road...
I know that they ask repeated stupid questions

cosworth3d

wim cut the crap i live in the netherlands aswell i dont want them to think everybody talks shit

Mike Rainbird

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Too late .














PS. I'm not being serious - I only thing Wim is the muppet .

Rich@rd

RichardPON

Problems with AP discs warping?

It'll be nothing to fo with AP at all. Have had no problems with mine or my brother's AP setups on our cossies ever.

I have never heard of one single cossie owner warping AP discs on a regular basis, and we all use them on track.

Believe me, no-one uses brakes more aggresively than Mike, and if he's had no problems, you'll be fine.

PMSL - can't believe these guys aren't rating AP and Brembo - the two biggest and best aftermarket/race brake manufacturers in the world.

wimwerf

ok.... you all fookers....i guess its not allowed to ask something.....

if someone ask something and its not smart enough then its normally to be gunned down here...

if you dont like it then dont answer it......

richard pon is the only one who gave me a normal answer....

you are all so damn good......FOOK THAT....

RichardPON

Wim - you're over-reacting.

Mike's only taking the piss because that is his way of giving a straight answer

Put it this way. AP and Brembo are used by WRC teams all over the world, and with good reason.

Don't believe a lot of stuff you read on the net - it's mostly written by people compensating for cocking things up and blaming someone else.

e.g. It applies to ANY disc, but not cleaning the hub face thoroughly when moutning the discs can cause the discs to run slightly unevenly - that'd be a much more likely cause of warping than it being a certain brand.

However, what are the chances of someone going on the internet, and telling people that they warped their discs because they didn't fit them properly?

wimwerf

maybe im over reacting.....

but there a lot of people who gave answers...well if you can call it answer...more a stupid reaction.....

and from all the people which reply to my topic your the only one who can be normal...

where not all proffesors or something...

Mike Rainbird

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Wim,
I'm taking the piss, because this has already been answered in one of your previous posts where this time it was the Dutch "tuppaware boys" dissing the APs . We all told you on THAT thread they were talking out of their arse and now you have another asking basically the same thing .

Don't worry, I even take the pissout of my friends (as they do me ) - it's called a sense of humour - perhaps they don't have it in Holland .

wimwerf

Mike,

im my topic about the dutch guys i didnt tell something about the MLR website...

i was curious if someone here has any problems with an AP bigbrake kit..

because i didnt here anything about it...

i give you all the link about it...

http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...threadid=64669

here it is...

Rs Gus

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i have personaly had NO problems with aps what so ever i also use my brakes hard

turbinator

stupid question .. stupid answer..

Eagle

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only problem i have had with my ap's are the pads ive got at the moment .. the last ones ferrodo ds300's were pukka i now got some ferrodo ds2500's BUT they are a slightly wider pad so im not getting as much braking pressure .. apart from that they are bloody ace ...
when they were initally fitted i thought i could feel the back of the car lifting up under severe stopping
must get some more 3000's

Mike Rainbird

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Wim,
I just read that ENTIRE post and could not find ONE single bad word about the APs, could you please point out where someone does .

Rene

fook me beautifull!

as mike says dont make us look stupid!

Mechanic_Wedgie

Too late you allready did it Rene
Sorry m8 (dit was een inkoppertje)

jay man

i can't believe this dutch dude and us irish are thick and we all know that the ap brake set up is the dogs infact they are that good you don't realise how late you leave your braking on track they give you that much confidence. just don't get them from mike or he will send you the set for a scania truck

DazC

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The ONLY problems I have see with AP brakes has been down to INCORRECT FITTING!!!

Hope that helps.

DOO

I have a few probs with they get my alloys covered in loads of brake dust all the time


apart from that they look and work 100% Ap`S are the daddys of Brakes

wimwerf

OK...for Mike R.....

because he couldnt find one bad word about AP...

this is written in the first topic when i opened it....

Just wanted to let you know I fitted new brakes to my car
they are AWESOME and I've already tested very severly,
14 stops from 220 to 0 and they didn't move an inch!!

next test will be the track in March!

they even fit with the enkei's, but VERY little space left.

(I just coulnd't take it anymore..all those wrapped discs with the AP's and Brembo's)


332mm*32 kit, they even do a 355mm kit, but that's 18" only

so...not that stupid after all....

Mike Rainbird

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What a crock of shit - he hasn't even TESTED the APs . Did you notice that not ONE other Evo driver picked up on this and said they had experienced the same? .

Regarding the OE Brembos, this is a KNOWN problem, as the OE discs are a ONE piece design and being so big, cannot dissipate the heat quickly enough whilst on track. So the OE one-piece discs are really not up to track use for this reason. AP actually do an upgrade kit (see my website ) for the Evo, which replaces the OE one-piece disc with an AP floating 2-piece item. It cures the problem and allows you to keep the OE calliper (which is VERY good ).

Rene

nex time ruud next time

cosworth3d

so basicly there wasn't any problem at all with the brakes you bought wim you just read it wrong, now can you please get them fitted as soon as you can ,and let the brake worries end

wimwerf

......according to the MLR website they keep saying AP discs warping and the calipers dont bite enough......

but i guess its not allowed to put a question here.....and so what its the 10th question.....

most guys here are that wise.....they find it stupid questions....

but now i will stop about this topic.....

Eagle

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mine bite hard enough on the track to stop me and i leave brakin untill the very last second .. i have godspeed discs and bells and they feel very positive .. however ....

i know bruce mangaed to warp a set of ap discs on his rs500 on one track day

cosworth3d

bruce as in bruce read with the 530+ bhp rs 500 in that case you don't have to worry about a thing

ImaRacing 700

Mike how come your AP's couldnt stop you hitting that roundabout?

I run the AP callipers and Focus RS discs @ 328mm and fuck me does it stop

Rich@rd

Wim.. If some people from the MLR board says that it's damn fine to jump of a bridge and here everybody says it's pretty mutch fooked up, would you also believe the MLR people?

Just fit the damn things and get

Mike Rainbird

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Because I stupidly turned the ABS off .