sumpy_bob

hi there i have owned my escort rs turbo for 6 months now and its started to have real trouble starting, if u dnt put ur foot on the accelerator it will not start if u put 2 much it wont start its got t be perfect, then eventualy wen it starts it runns realy lumpy and if left to idle just cuts out then same palarvar again to start it, but eventualy once its running and warm its abit better no lumpyness or anythjing, till you go to drive if u set off and boot it it holds back alot, but only occasionaly cuts out wen its hot, then again is a pain to start, it has just been serviced but still suffering from the same problems! so its starting problem ideling problem wen cold, then holding back, it like gets to 3krpm and the turbo cums in abit then at 4500 again it just feels like theres not alot of turbo, checked turbo that is fine, any HELP would be muchly appreciated thaks bob

tejy

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get it to a tuner who knows what they are doing mate. get some more info up about your rst.. what spec isit?

sounds like it needs setting up

sumpy_bob

that is the problem there is no tuners in spain where i live that understand it, its not a common car to have out here, its a 1988 rst 1.6 cvh it is compleatley standard nothing dun to it at all i bought it off an old man he owned it from new, never gave him a single problem, but i just cant work this out :s

sumpy_bob

wot do you mean by setting up?

Mr S1

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Get the engine set up done properly, i.e. timing, fuelling, boost checked etc.

vroooom ptssssh

Sounds like the warm up/fuel enrichment circuit isn't working for one reason or another....

I'd be weary of driving it hard/on boost as well as on boost fueling may also be affected.

either the fuel system hasn't got 12V, fuel ECU is knackered, A sensor (thermo time switch for instance) isn't working or another fault.

proceed to someone who know's what they are doing with RS Turbo's.

*edit* jus't realised you're from Spain.

take plug off black switch on the right hand side of the throtle, get volt meter, place negative to chassis or battery negative terminal and positive side of meter onto one of the two end pins on the plug, I forget which one but one of the end pins should have 12V when ignition is on/car is running. if it does not, then check the heated seat fuse in the fuse box to make sure it is there and not blown (I know the car doesnt have heated seats but it has a slot on the fuse box (indicated on the lid with a heated seat picture) which is the fuse for the electronic part of the fuel system's power). If all this checks out ok and you still don't have power, then come back and we'll try to further assist

matts1

have you been doing any work in the engine bay? maybe an air leak messing up the fueling??

My old S1 started and ran fine, i did some work in the bay and then suddenyl got the same issues, hard to start unless the pedal was half depressed, rought idling and cutting out until warm, then holding back on boost, iirc it was a seal on the air flow meter unit.

Would be worth checking there are no leaks and all pipes/hoses are in good order.

Ebonycossie4x4

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take it to Jock at the garage lol...

vroooom ptssssh

lmao

RS Grant

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LOL!!

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Cheers,
Grant

sumpy_bob

its just theres no1 that knows bugger all about the mr s1, and cheers vrooom ptssssssh i will be trying this tomorow and if not back to the drawing board, iv been to a bosh specialist who they say is 1 of the best in spain he has said he can have a look but hes more into diesels there just isent many of the rst in spain and ppl that have them r all english and know wot there doing with them, apart from i mean i studdied mechanics but the car is 1 year older than wot i am and id prefer to seek advice b4 i balls it up, and as for jock im ok, well it started with the problem like a week ago and since then iv not driven it only been and got it running so it still started, but cud that be y i have all these problems for some wanky fues? and i checkd all pipes and seals to make sure it didnt have any leaks they all seem to be ok. cheers lads will let you know

crossy2004

try unplugging cold start under inlet

sumpy_bob

hahah and as daft as it sounds i have rung jock he seems to be happy to travel up here and look at it as he says he knows a fair bit about them

xr_craig

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Could be any number of things. Mine had similar symptoms to yours and it was dangerously lean so don't give it much stick until you get it sorted. Can't remember what the problem was with mine now though, something siezed in the metering head i think.

Bungle

Ha result hope thats on tv mate, sorry i cant really help i would say its metering unit personally like the others have said, best thing i did on my old one was convert to efi

Rsmat

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Deffo metering unit if you ask me.

Ebonycossie4x4

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Sounded metering unit here too...

God i hate metering units!

sumpy_bob

haha thankyou all for your help it was indeed the heated seat fues blown and the metering unit nice easy fix cost me 100quid so not to botherd about that, now the next problem the holding back on the turbo discoverd it was actualy the wastgate is nackerd, wot other turbos will fit on the escort rs turbo? as finding the origional 1 is proving a problem over here can only get a brand new recon 1 wich is big buks, so wonderd if there was another 1 that wud fit may b bigger or something once again thanks for all you help

sumpy_bob

oh yes and is the metering head that little silver thing with lots of red pipes on it, thats just behind the airfilter or is it the whole thing airfilter and all that? thanks guys

sumpy_bob

well any way now its running ok apart from turbo wise, can any of you give me any tuning tips as it is compleatly standard wots the best way to go round them of course s/s exhaust and manifold, airfilter front mount intercooler, wot els can you do with them cheers guys

milesy23rst

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Newman, piper or kent cam, stage 1, 2 or 3 turbo, polished and ported head, getting rid of mfi and changing to a decent management for example cossie management as well as the usual k&n or pipercross filter with cold air feed, stainless steel exhaust, grs, pro-alloy, airtec front mount intercooler, hope this helps a bit mate

sumpy_bob

ok cheers m8, where can i buy all this that wud ship 2 sapin as i have just sold my r5gtturbo and have money that is burning ahole

CHUNKYS RS

start with a compression test and check the basics

sumpy_bob

is the metering unit the same on the rst as a xr3i?

milesy23rst

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No m8 its different, and all the bits i mentioned you can buy from burton power, woodford garage motorsport and various others.

sumpy_bob

hello again guys has any 1 got a t3 turbo for my 1988 rs turbo, and a metering unit that works, thanks again, or know where i can get these parts from as in spain they are verry expencive, if any 1 has got tem pm me thanks

sumpy_bob

and dus any 1 know where i can buy a full engine re build kit from? cheers