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Old 25-11-2011, 08:10 PM
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Default urgent just broke down, manifold glowing red and no clutch

hi all please help. Was driving along in 5th put my foot down slightly and sounded like i had full boost like in 5th gear.

Then booted it a bit and had no clutch, think its fucked as cant select gears.

Opened up bonnet while waiting for aa and manifold behind turbo was glowing red. Engine sounds fine though. Any ideas? I know clutch is fucked and engine sounds sweet still but why would it glow bright red, i think it slightly melted red pipe too.
Its a 2wd cossie btw
Old 25-11-2011, 08:13 PM
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Booted it in 5th could explain the glowing manifold
Old 25-11-2011, 08:16 PM
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what?? Only for about 2mins before the clutch went. Its never glown red before
Old 25-11-2011, 08:22 PM
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Sounds like you have melted the clutch cable

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Old 25-11-2011, 08:27 PM
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yup sounds like yu melted the cable but the glowing manifold hmmm how long did yu floor it for
Old 25-11-2011, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
Sounds like you have melted the clutch cable

Steve
Steve if i melted the clutch cable i can just replace the cable itself cant i.

Question is though why did it melt, i wasnt even driving hard?
Old 25-11-2011, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MO' BENT RIMS
yup sounds like yu melted the cable but the glowing manifold hmmm how long did yu floor it for
2mins before the clutch fucked

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Old 25-11-2011, 08:37 PM
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was there anything rubbing against the cable mate?????
Old 25-11-2011, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MO' BENT RIMS
was there anything rubbing against the cable mate?????
Not that i know of. The only thing i changed was put a 500 cooler in and alloy radiator, with its own relay direct to battery but thats the front end so cant think of what could be rubbing it or why it was glowing
Old 25-11-2011, 08:43 PM
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Ive had them glow right the way down and slightley under the bulk head...
Old 25-11-2011, 08:44 PM
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mate the cables are so so common for melting lol as for glowing red how many times do you give it some for 2 mins then get out and open the bonnet to see?
Old 25-11-2011, 08:46 PM
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melted clutch cable luke do you have a turbo heat shield on ?
Old 25-11-2011, 08:46 PM
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would it fuck turbo? It was still spinning fine. In fact i think i had to much boost in 5th as i couldnt get traction or would that have something to do with clutch fucking up?
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Do you have a turbo heat sheild? If not that may explain why you melted the clutch cable.

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Old 25-11-2011, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by flannigan
melted clutch cable luke do you have a turbo heat shield on ?
Yer mate standard heat shield
Old 25-11-2011, 08:48 PM
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could not get traction or was it clutch slip ?
Old 25-11-2011, 08:50 PM
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check to see if the cable is touching the exhaust manifold anywhere mate and it sounds like cable to me but you may have shredded the clutch friction plate in the process
Old 25-11-2011, 08:53 PM
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i seemed to get no traction when i feathered the throttle, when i booted it though i got traction eventually. Its only stage one but felt like to much boost in one go rather than steady supply if that makes sense
Old 25-11-2011, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dicko&Sarah
mate the cables are so so common for melting lol as for glowing red how many times do you give it some for 2 mins then get out and open the bonnet to see?
Thats a good point mate. Can u get uprated cables?

Aa mans here
Old 25-11-2011, 08:59 PM
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get a std ford cable and have a new clutch fitted mate and it will cure youre problem
Old 25-11-2011, 09:02 PM
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Vacume pipe popped off so running unlimited boost ?? as to much boost with wrong map will make it glow like a mother f**ker

That will also make the clutch cable die due to the heat
Old 25-11-2011, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lukeytheduke
Thats a good point mate. Can u get uprated cables?

Aa mans here

go hydraulic it is about as uprated as you can get.
Old 25-11-2011, 09:11 PM
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This might be completely irrelevant as i don't own a cossie but in fast ford a couple of months ago (the feature comparing track and road escorts) they were saying that because the timing was two advanced it was sending the combustion through the exhaust ports, reducing power and making the manifold glow
Old 25-11-2011, 10:20 PM
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The clutch cable runs alongside the turbo, normally there isn't a problem, assuming you have the heatshield in place and it's in good order?

What do you define by "No clutch", if the cables gone you will know as there will be no resistance on the pedal what so ever and it will go straight to the floor?

To answer your question there is nothing you can do until you get another cable, at least under the cars own steam (Pardon the pun), UNLESS you are near home and not near busy roads etc you can try starting the car in gear and driving it home slowly (As obviously your stuck in that one low gear) but I woulden't advise unless desperate and distance and conditions allow!

Martin

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Old 25-11-2011, 10:57 PM
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i got towed back. Turns out the aa man own a 3 door!!

He said clutch defo burnt out aswell as cable.

What price am i looking at for ford new clutch then? Only stage 1 so nothing special please.
Cheers luke
Old 25-11-2011, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mr noisy
Vacume pipe popped off so running unlimited boost ?? as to much boost with wrong map will make it glow like a mother f**ker

That will also make the clutch cable die due to the heat
Sorry mate when i said loadsa boost the boost gauge still only read 14 so it didnt go above what it should just seemed like it arrived in one lump sum but i think that was due to clutch slipping.

I've never had this problem before so didnt know it was clutch slip. Aa man reckoned i need a whole new kit, he could tell by the smell apparently
Old 26-11-2011, 07:15 AM
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weather is alot colder now at night so the boost ur running will be more punchy and youve also added a bigger cooler! get a full 6 plate kit with a standard cover as that will do up to stage 3 imo!
Old 26-11-2011, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Alvyn
weather is alot colder now at night so the boost ur running will be more punchy and youve also added a bigger cooler! get a full 6 plate kit with a standard cover as that will do up to stage 3 imo!
Sorry for my ignorance as i know nothing about clutches but wont the ap kit come with an uprated cover as its a "kit"

Cheers luke
Old 26-11-2011, 07:39 AM
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p.s with the new cooler on i cant believe how quick it picks up in 5th
Old 26-11-2011, 11:55 AM
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Did I catch ya right, stage one and you couldn't get traction in fifth gear on boost (over 3k .) What speed was this at ...?..

What power you imagine you have,what tyres you running more importantly......
Old 26-11-2011, 11:59 AM
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It was clearly clutch slip mate, no need to take the piss out of the lad.
Old 26-11-2011, 12:09 PM
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Yeah clearly this lad doesn't know to much about his car, that's why he's asked on here.
We are all here to help .
If he has never experienced a clutch slipping before he wouldn't know what it feels like. So taking the piss ain't really needed.
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clutch slip- revs rise rapidly but not an increase in speed.
Wheel spining while on the move- revs rise quickly but no increase in speed

Whats the fucking difference

And as said above why would i know its clutch slip if i've never had a car with that problem!
Old 26-11-2011, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Virgo
Did I catch ya right, stage one and you couldn't get traction in fifth gear on boost (over 3k .) What speed was this at ...?..

What power you imagine you have,what tyres you running more importantly......
Its 280 burton power stage 1 and the problem arise from 0mph to 135when clutch finally went. I know its only stage one but its so responsive for a stage 1.

It used to wheel spin in 3rd and 4th but never in 5th thats when i thought somethings up.

Wheels are white comp mo et35's and rubber is goodyear eagle f1 asymetrics so best all round tyres out there
Old 26-11-2011, 02:03 PM
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if you going to keep her at srage one just got a standard one from ford along with the cable,if u good with spanners do it yaself 2wd clutchs easy
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