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Old 20-02-2005, 03:42 PM
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Default how can i tell if im getting gas?

boiler wont fire up and im fookin freezing.

light is on so its getting power and system pressure is good (thanks tiff ) so im wondering if my gas supply is there, i recently switched from british gas to another firm, trouble is its only the heating and water in my house that gas supplied so i dont have a cooker or a fire to check it.

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Old 20-02-2005, 03:44 PM
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Can you hear the Fan working inside the boiler???
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Oh, to check the gas, can you take the front cover off the boiler and take a picture for me and i will tell you how
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no cant hear anything

except me teeth chattering
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Oh, to check the gas, can you take the front cover off the boiler and take a picture for me and i will tell you how

on the case now

ps, thanks
Old 20-02-2005, 03:47 PM
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Well, if the fan isnt working, it wont fire. It is a sealed system and needs the suction pressure
Old 20-02-2005, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Well, if the fan isnt working, it wont fire. It is a sealed system and needs the suction pressure
oh bollocks

i took the front off, its just like a silver case with a sticker on it and
a little peep hole.
Old 20-02-2005, 03:52 PM
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Under that will be a load of stuff that wont mean much to you

Can you take a picture
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Is it a combi boiler and if so does it work when you open a hot tap ?
If its a normall boiler and hot water cylinder you will have either 2 zone valves or one 3 way valve probley in airing cupboard ? if so let us know and we will then know which route to go down
Old 20-02-2005, 03:53 PM
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Its a Combi Mr Texaco
Old 20-02-2005, 03:55 PM
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its a combi boiler, not long put in really, well in last few years.

no i got no hot water either

tiff do you mean take the whole thing apart or just the front cover, ive took cover off but doesnt really show anything, just the metal casing and the dials
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cheers tiff ( or mr blackpool )

Does it work on hot water then
Old 20-02-2005, 03:57 PM
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What make
Tap the pressure gauge it could be stuck
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You will have a front cover,usually white, which will be held on with a few screws. Whip that off and take a picture, we can go from there

Mr Blackpool???????????????????????

Lost me there Dunc
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GOT IT DUNC YOU COONT
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What make
Tap the pressure gauge it could be stuck
its a Halstead Ace

Dont know where the pressure guage is


going to download photos, thanks for the help, top guys
Old 20-02-2005, 04:00 PM
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I have sorted RSCAT with the pressure problem and that is all sorted now, the boiler is just not firing. Trying to see if there is gas at the boiler
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Or like i said, if the fan isnt working then that could be the problem
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Pressure gauge is under the boiler on the pipe work on them boiler and some times they stick so you think you have pressure but you havent, next thing is there a reset button on the boiler ?
Swith the boiler off for 10 seconds swith back on and open a hot tap what can you here happen if anything
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Must of blown himself up
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or he has his finger in side the gas pipe to stop it pissing out and is now thinking what to do but at least i have gas. or he got the case off the boiler but pulled the boiler off the wall and landed on him and is lying on the kithen floor with a boiler on top of him
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coonts

takes me ages to download pics, just uploading em to photobucket now
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your still with us then
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Originally Posted by Dunccoss
Pressure gauge is under the boiler on the pipe work on them boiler and some times they stick so you think you have pressure but you havent, next thing is there a reset button on the boiler ?
Swith the boiler off for 10 seconds swith back on and open a hot tap what can you here happen if anything
theres a rest button which ive tried a few times but nothing.
switched it off then on, tried a hot tap, cant hear anything from the boiler though difficult to tell as i can hear the pipework.
Old 20-02-2005, 04:36 PM
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did it just stop working all on its own ?
Have you vented or filled / toped up system at all
Can you here the pump working it could be stuck
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Right, with the cover off as in the pics, try and get it to work, but listen and see if the fan starts to spinn up/work. It is at the top of the boiler as pic one
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yeah, i switched the heating off before i went to the bedford show yesterday,
froze my knackers off all day, got hom and the fookin thing wouldnt work

i filled it up this morning as it wasnt showing any system pressure, tiff told me how to get it back so got it up to 2 bar.

which bit is the pump?
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the pump will be at bottom of boiler and will probley be warm if its trying to spin and cant if so just tap it and you will here it start to spin, the other thing it could be is a high limit stat could have poped out , if the boiler tryed to start with pump not runing it would have got hot and cut out
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no the fan isnt going at all, its not making any sound from the boiler at all,
the little green power light is on though.
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Originally Posted by RSCAT
no the fan isnt going at all, its not making any sound from the boiler at all,
the little green power light is on though.
Right then. On the fan in the top pic, take off the bottom clear hose and suck on it very gently while trying to get the boiler to run. This will cause the suction needed to fire the boiler, if it fires you know the fan is the problem.

Dont worry, it is totally safe

(If it doesnt fire sucking on that hose, try the top one as i cant see exactly where they go)
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Originally Posted by RSCAT
no the fan isnt going at all, its not making any sound from the boiler at all,
the little green power light is on though.
Right then. On the fan in the top pic, take off the bottom clear hose and suck on it very gently while trying to get the boiler to run. This will cause the suction needed to fire the boiler, if it fires you know the fan is the problem.

Dont worry, it is totally safe

(If it doesnt fire sucking on that hose, try the top one as i cant see exactly where they go)
ok tiff im trusting my life in your hands, if you dont hear back from me ever again then its been nice knowing you all
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arggggggh ya fooker tiff i just got a leccy shock off summit

which end do i take it off? directly where it goes on to the fan?
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Yes mate, where it goes into the fan casing
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too scared to go near it after that last bolt up the arm, dunno what the hell i touched lol.

ill try it once i build up the courage
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bottom one didnt do anything, top one , kind of sucked a little bit then sounded like a valve or summit cut the suction off and something clicked.


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