London Emission Zone
16-11-2011, 09:07 PM
#81
Yep sure seems that way, but what engine would you choose from 2005 for that sort of grunt if they are being fussy over same year installs? The smiley van I had to get rid of was running better on bio and sunflower oil, so what effect would that have on the nox? If it was lower that's real progress as the newer vans can't run on it I heard.
16-11-2011, 09:12 PM
#82
So if the mk 6 transit is non compliant in 2015 what a fucking waste my recent upgrade was 
that 2005 transit won't be worth a wank in three years . Where the fuck do they think all this money is coming from ? Then what did they do they do on the mk 7 then, as I thought they where all the same as the mk 6 with only a face lift? A smiley front 24v cos powered transit should have been my upgrade 
real future proof 
that 2005 transit won't be worth a wank in three years . Where the fuck do they think all this money is coming from ? Then what did they do they do on the mk 7 then, as I thought they where all the same as the mk 6 with only a face lift? A smiley front 24v cos powered transit should have been my upgrade real future proof 
17-11-2011, 12:55 PM
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it is a joke my engine in my fiesta van is the same in an escort or fiest car 1800
i have to have a filter fitted but cars don't ,its the same engine as the rest
also its done only 60,000 miles from new not much use there ,and why only london not the hole country ,
i have to have a filter fitted but cars don't ,its the same engine as the rest
also its done only 60,000 miles from new not much use there ,and why only london not the hole country ,
17-11-2011, 01:08 PM
#86
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I can see your point but in all fairness as it is classed as a light commercial the info would have been there a good year or so before it came in! you was able to buy euro five compatible when euro 4 was out as a tax brake!
17-11-2011, 10:57 PM
#88
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euro 5 is the current emission regs your defender has fallen into. I was saying that you would have know about the charges a good year or so before it comes in! as you were able to by euro 5 vehicals when euro 4 was inforced!
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18-11-2011, 06:01 AM
#89
they are so fucking thick. Most of the large cars or 4x4s have a way bigger engine. But they have a side window so come on in, as no one in government would be seen in a light commercial with no side glass!
18-11-2011, 06:10 AM
#90
To be fair the Tfl muppets only contacted me a couple that's two months back, and now it looks like a late registered smiley could sneek in and will become exempt at the same time as my current 2005. That means for me 6k for 3years more I really don't think I will be able to keep up with this over the next few years and we are heading deeper into reccession, it's to much.
18-11-2011, 06:35 AM
#91
Testing the future
18-11-2011, 10:51 AM
#93
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19-11-2011, 12:13 AM
#94
And I'm not jumping up and down, I'm giving my opinions, and trying to help a guy with his. Why would I jump up and down, not like I've gotta pay it?
19-11-2011, 01:51 AM
#95
cossie fan (unluckerly)
Why would I have bothered to research something to do with commercial vehicles when I don't own one? You must have a boring life if you sit there looking into things like this all day.
And I'm not jumping up and down, I'm giving my opinions, and trying to help a guy with his. Why would I jump up and down, not like I've gotta pay it?
And I'm not jumping up and down, I'm giving my opinions, and trying to help a guy with his. Why would I jump up and down, not like I've gotta pay it?
19-11-2011, 11:05 AM
#96
AJamessc is totally correct what he is saying!
The reason it's been introduced is because the harmful particulate matter the affected vehicles emit!
As I say we were affected by it BUT because our vehicle was incorrectly classified on the log book which has now been corrected!
Thing is though it does seem very badly managed, in the fact I suspect they merely done a mail merge to all the vehicle owners that are registered with certain body types and the weight, this coupled with the age are the factors it goes on!
I can't help thinking though it is an attempt to screw the motorist as if they are so dangerous, why is it only we have the LEZ and no one else, as said?
In fact in the actual booklet you are sent it says one of the reasons "Is cleaner air for the olympics" which seems to dominate near enough everything at the moment, i.e. the digital switchover will be BEFORE the Olympics, the real reason is so Borris makes a good impression and gets brownie points for it.
Also why is it only now, these "Harmful emissions" have been noticed?
Yet you can still drive into London and pay the charge? That doesn't magically get rid of those harmful emissions though does it
Martin
The reason it's been introduced is because the harmful particulate matter the affected vehicles emit!
As I say we were affected by it BUT because our vehicle was incorrectly classified on the log book which has now been corrected!
Thing is though it does seem very badly managed, in the fact I suspect they merely done a mail merge to all the vehicle owners that are registered with certain body types and the weight, this coupled with the age are the factors it goes on!
I can't help thinking though it is an attempt to screw the motorist as if they are so dangerous, why is it only we have the LEZ and no one else, as said?
In fact in the actual booklet you are sent it says one of the reasons "Is cleaner air for the olympics" which seems to dominate near enough everything at the moment, i.e. the digital switchover will be BEFORE the Olympics, the real reason is so Borris makes a good impression and gets brownie points for it.
Also why is it only now, these "Harmful emissions" have been noticed?
Yet you can still drive into London and pay the charge? That doesn't magically get rid of those harmful emissions though does it
Martin
19-11-2011, 12:31 PM
#97
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Are you lot who are complaining about not being able to afford a new commercial vehicle serious? The scheme was announced in 2008, you have all had four years to prepare for the change!!! 
19-11-2011, 03:06 PM
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i understand why they are doing it. A guy opposite my grandads place runs some of the old routemasters and the smoke that comes out the back of them stings your eyes.
There a quite a few firms round by me that use defenders as work vehicles, as essentially tow vehicles so i can see why they are included in the lez.
19-11-2011, 05:34 PM
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My point is, the finalised information has been out there for four year... Hell the launch of the scheme was put back a year by Boris, if Ken's original plan had gone ahead as scheduled you would have had to change a year ago. Not only that I understand some dealerships have also been offering discounts on new commercial vehicles. Dunno if 4x4's come under that bracket or not.
Certinately, this was a discussion I was having with my clients two years ago and a lot of them are now ready for it.
19-11-2011, 05:46 PM
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19-11-2011, 07:48 PM
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19-11-2011, 07:54 PM
#106
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i dont live in london, i dont know who introduced what but id have thought whoever had introduced it had mentioned their plans and some stage ?
just like edinburgh council that tried to bring in congestion charging as well but it was voted no by the people and was cancelled.
just like edinburgh council that tried to bring in congestion charging as well but it was voted no by the people and was cancelled.
19-11-2011, 10:31 PM
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24-11-2011, 03:17 PM
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Any of you lads got a buddy in Ireland, rereg it here(e50) and then drive about on Irish (southern) plates....
No speed tickets,parking or stealth tax lez fines.......
No speed tickets,parking or stealth tax lez fines.......
24-11-2011, 06:16 PM
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25-11-2011, 11:51 PM
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Billy im the same as you bud , smiley faced n plate , rip the diesel out of her and stick a petrol lump under the bonnet , pinto here we come
FUK UM .....PRICKS NOT EVEN IN POWER ANYMORE....LIVINGSTONE YOU FUCKED IT UP YOURSELF AND YOU ALONE WELL DONE WANKER
FUK UM .....PRICKS NOT EVEN IN POWER ANYMORE....LIVINGSTONE YOU FUCKED IT UP YOURSELF AND YOU ALONE WELL DONE WANKER
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23-01-2012, 12:20 AM
#112
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i got screwed by this law as well, im a self employed smart repairer and i was working out of a r reg peugeout expert and was earning very little at the time and had to change my van, but on the plus side i now own a 04 mk6 transit big enough to refurbish wheels inside the van but even so its still going to be non compliant in 2 or 3 years, what a laod of bollox
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