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Old 03-11-2011, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Minirotty
I have been told it would be legal for me to tow my car trailer on my escort van with an escort on it

The laws are confusing and can see why people get it wrong.

the other month i wanted to tow with my old escort mk6 with a twin wheel trailer 500kg, and i wanted to put a tigra mk1 on it, the rental guy it was technically over weight, so from what he was saying you cant trailer the same as what your towing with
Old 03-11-2011, 08:57 PM
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can i tow an escort mrk 3 behind my astra estate ive just bought a track car ????

my car is 53 plate astra 1.7td

trailer weighs at 680kg
Old 03-11-2011, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by D16PJM
i thought that recovery trucks do need a tacho if going over a certain distance but within 60 miles of base no tacho is needed.



they have to be in a tacho equiped vehicle however they have to put the tacho in if traveling more than 60km
Old 03-11-2011, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by saph4be
so do you need a tacho in a 4x4 if towing cars for bussiness use? my mate does this and says not but i sure he is wrong!
if it all weighs more than 3500kg then yes you do but there is an exemption for recovery vehicles but i think thats only with in 60 miles of your base (thats 60 miles as the crow flys not 60 miles up the road) i fit and calibrate them as part of my job i work for daf truck we always get guys in telling us there exempt we just laugh and say ok mate
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Originally Posted by nevsrevs
scaffold lorrys dont need tacho,s or recovery trucks
Yes scaffold lorrys do its hire and reward! we look after about 12 of them. The only trucks we look after that dont need them are dust carts / council trucks and vans over 3500kg and the odd work coach or bus and ive seen a few army trucks also horse box,s as most are private use

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Old 03-11-2011, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
James ,please tell me why the front set up is legal but the rear set up isnt




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Old 03-11-2011, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
I ALWAYS have a safe chain on anything i tow

as you say ,madness not to bother as it takes 1 second to drop over the ball and costs very little
it shouldnt be round the ball,goes onto the towbar itself
Old 04-11-2011, 09:44 AM
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james what about recovery trucks 3500kg, is it still true ish they allow you up to 5 percent overweight due to poss issues with scales etc and to give you the benefit of the doubt??


i run a 06 transit lwb with a lightweight vospers body, well maintained and presentable truck, however as always sometimes you just know your overweight or damn close to it. if i say got weighed in at 3630kg would i get a slap on the wrist?

time for me to go on a diet lol
Old 04-11-2011, 11:17 AM
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i used to deliver cars on a trailer and we had to have tachos fitted as we were using transits, but other operators used "cars" and were exempt as they didnt exceed 3500kg train weight.
i was pulled on the a1 by vosa, taken 30 miles off route to a weigh bridge because i had a jaguar on my trailer. the vosa inspector was visibly shocked when i wasnt overweight. i then had to explain that jags are now made of aluminium. he checked my tachos which had some minor overtimes on, glanced through a dozen or so smirked and told me to carry on.
as paul said the law needs looking at regarding private and commercial vehicles.
Old 04-11-2011, 11:30 AM
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The point being missed by Paul about his van is that it has the "potential" to be filled to the rafters in the back, then a trailer attached. Can't see that happening in a Range Rover sport.
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
James ,please tell me why the front set up is legal but the rear set up isnt




many years ago i used to work for the MOD, in the motor transport section and we used to use a swb landrover and a twin wheel trailer for recovery work, it was quite normal to have to have a freight rover mini bus on the back, i expect thats been outlawed now
Old 04-11-2011, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
Would you be saying the same if one of your family members got killed by a car towing a trailer to heavy and suffered brake failure?

believe me, i worked for VOSA long enough to realise, they are doing what they do to make the roads a safer place, my opinion soon changed after being involved in a few over weight incidents where the remains of peoples loved ones are scattered across the road.

If the vehicle is not up to the job of towing a weight that it is towing, then they are damn right to stop it being driven!

Little else to do? saving lives is a pretty important thing to do IMO
Whilst I would mostly agree. It depends on what discretion they apply.

It's a bit like speed cameras. They will tell you they are there to make the roads a safer place too. And for 90% of cases that is complete and utter bullshit. They are there to rake money in, plain and simple.

There are plenty of people out there with dodgy trailer setups, but there are plenty working in a totally safe manner that may not meet their strict and often hard to follow rules.
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any vosa boys advice me on my question?
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