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Old 18-09-2011, 10:54 PM
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whats better 306 gti or rs2000 mk6???

im thinking of buying either a 306 gti 6 speed or a mk6 rs2000

what you think guys??????
Old 18-09-2011, 11:06 PM
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The 306 is in a different league. One of the best front wheel drive cars out there.

Having said that. Any one who tells you a mk6 rs2000 is shut obviously hasn't owned one cus there cracking little cars aswell
Old 18-09-2011, 11:30 PM
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The 306 is quicker and sharper, but the RS is just a good all rounder. I'm just a big fan of the shape, the Recaros are awesome, the engine is torquey and more civilised on the motorway than the 306. It's also cheap to run, economical and if it's a good one and kept that way it will only increase in value.
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As this is a Ford forum I think the majority of answers will say the RS. On paper the GTi is far better but I would say go and drive both. Heart says RS, head says Pug. Both have their problems - RS : rust, Pug : usual French electrics etc. Think you would have to spend a lot of money to get the RS to keep up with the GTi.Personally wouldn't mind either.had a mk6 and they are great cars.

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Old 19-09-2011, 07:47 AM
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RS2000. At least it wont fall apart.
Old 19-09-2011, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Madgit
As this is a Ford forum I think the majority of answers will say the RS. On paper the GTi is far better but I would say go and drive both. Heart says RS, head says Pug. Both have their problems - RS : rust, Pug : usual French electrics etc. Think you would have to spend a lot of money to get the RS to keep up with the GTi.
Yeah, the GTi is quicker, no one can argue that, also for what it is, it's very good handling car.

If you want a very good example of the RS for sensible money, have a look at mine in the for sale section. No rust on the body at all, or underneath and has so many new parts its like a new car, so all the usual issues sorted.
Old 19-09-2011, 07:55 AM
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Nice plug Mike lol.

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Old 19-09-2011, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Madgit
Nice plug Mike lol.
Haha, yeah I was gonna apologise in advance, but like you say, finding one that isn't rusty and past its sell by date is very difficult.

One in properly good condition will only increase in value over time though surely.
Old 19-09-2011, 08:09 AM
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Yeah mine was a dog, I soon found out why it was so cheap when I bought it. Would like a good one though to keep for future as like you say they will go up eventually.
Old 19-09-2011, 08:17 AM
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rs2000 4x4 ,then you have the handling as well as the torque and power ,dead easy to uprate the power on too
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306 everyday of the week
Old 19-09-2011, 09:41 AM
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306 for me anytime... I ran a 106 last year... Was awesome.
Old 19-09-2011, 09:45 AM
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306 hands down, and i have owned one, walk away from tappy top ends, allot of GTI-6's have suffered cam belt faliures and fixed on the cheap.
Old 19-09-2011, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rsmat
306 for me anytime... I ran a 106 last year... Was awesome.
Agreed, also had a 106 gti, so much fun.

306 Gti over the Rs2000 anyday of the week.
my old 1

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Old 19-09-2011, 09:52 AM
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Went in a 306 gti really fast well handling cars but do suffer from usuall french electrics and cambelts!

Had an rs2k and loved it. Not as quick but id say better to live with! Apart from the dreaded rust! Plus they will only go up in value!

As a ford man id say rs2k but wouldnt really mind a gti either!
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what a stupid question this is a ford forum or so i fought?:mass
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Yeah think if i got another RS I'd be wishing I'd gone for the Pug but don't think I'd be thinking the same if it was the other way round. The RS2k never really got to the top of the hot hatch pile but the 306 was up there, must be something in that. When you take your Ford head off I'm sure the 306 does almost everything better really.
Old 19-09-2011, 09:58 AM
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i have a xsara vts which is a gti6 engine with a cage in bilstiens ect ect cracking track toy but its basicly a 306 with a different hair cut lol
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My old slag....








Also built not bought.

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Old 19-09-2011, 10:16 AM
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I'd say overall the pug would be a better buy.
I've had an rs2000 engined cabriolet and it's a very strong lump and as said quite economical but I'd say no better than the pug with it's extra gear.
Fords do rust badly and that was one of the worst examples of it,very often they can look mint on the outside but rotten structurally.
Don't be fooled into thinking the cam chain lasts forever either,my mates had one go years ago on the mk5 version and the car was a dog so it ended up owing him about Ł5000!!!!
To me,the pug handles better,is faster,just as reliable and rusts less.
Plus points for the ford are slightly cheaper parts and marginally better electrics(remember fusebox issues),if you get a good one also should hold it's value very well.
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Originally Posted by rs clint
what a stupid question this is a ford forum or so i fought?:mass


lol
Old 19-09-2011, 11:08 AM
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306 gti-6 any day of the week
Old 19-09-2011, 11:11 AM
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track GTI, road RS2k
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how are RS2000's on fuel out of interest? Fancy a ratty one for the winter!
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Originally Posted by Zetec_mk4_XR3i
how are RS2000's on fuel out of interest? Fancy a ratty one for the winter!
Excellent to be honest.

Reasonably powerful, lazy NA engine in a small, light and fairly slippery car is a good combination for economy.
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Originally Posted by Zetec_mk4_XR3i
how are RS2000's on fuel out of interest? Fancy a ratty one for the winter!
Fuel Wise good, but boring drive
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Originally Posted by Robs Frst
Fuel Wise good, but boring drive
prob boring compared to some other RS's but the couple i've driven were nice to drive with decent amount of poke and comfort! Never actually owned pne though hence the fuel economy question.
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I run a RS2000 4X4 as my daily driver its ultra reliable and handles bloody well and mine is going up in value all the time unlike the french fodder
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Originally Posted by Rick
track GTI, road RS2k
Exactly my thoughts.

Originally Posted by Zetec_mk4_XR3i
prob boring compared to some other RS's but the couple i've driven were nice to drive with decent amount of poke and comfort! Never actually owned pne though hence the fuel economy question.
They're nippy enough and from memory they're pretty good on the jungle juice too... I ran one as a daily a few years back and thought it was a brilliant car. Gave it a really hard time and could rely on it to start in the morning and get me to work, excellent daily drive option if you can get a good one.


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Originally Posted by Madgit
As this is a Ford forum I think the majority of answers will say the RS. On paper the GTi is far better but I would say go and drive both. Heart says RS, head says Pug. Both have their problems - RS : rust, Pug : usual French electrics etc. Think you would have to spend a lot of money to get the RS to keep up with the GTi.Personally wouldn't mind either.had a mk6 and they are great cars.


as i live in france n see alot of them about i would say the rs. i have had one for bits ro sell and thay r a bit of a s... to work on n on uk u wont be ablw to get all the bits i u bust something(having the same problem with my mk6 witch i inyend to fit an rs moter in)the look of the rs is better but now thers so meamy in uk a nice 306wont go a miss
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Track - 306
Daily - RS
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Having owned both.
Having done a trip to the ring in an RS2k as well as a daily
Having driven 110miles a day for 6months in the 306

I can't honestly understand why anyone would pick an RS2k over a 306.

The only benefit the RS has is the front seats.

The 306 is simply awesome and in the real world is simply incredible and on track another world.

RS2k is wank in comparison.
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GTi6's are fantastic cars!

Only drove my first one last week and gota say, you wouldn't want a standard RS2K over one.

Standard to standard the 306 wins by miles!!!

But a well prepared RS2000 would win over the 306 but that's not your question is it.

306 every day of the week! (in standard)
Old 19-09-2011, 05:52 PM
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Rs2000 for me as they have never let me down. Would never touch a french car ever ....

People are going on about track cars ??? Is this not for everyday use ?
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I knew an old boy that had a Gti-6 but said the handling was a bit twitchy, but a very capable car.
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RS for me. Seats are nicer, interior is better screwed together, and the Pug is just a bit flimsy in general.

A mate of mine had one and it didn't feel noticeably quicker than a standard RS I don't think. It does handle better, without a doubt, but I think the shonky gearchange and shit interior let it down as a road car for me.
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Originally Posted by 1-PD
I run a RS2000 4X4 as my daily driver its ultra reliable and handles bloody well and mine is going up in value all the time unlike the french fodder
Originally Posted by damian harris
Rs2000 for me as they have never let me down. Would never touch a french car ever ....

People are going on about track cars ??? Is this not for everyday use ?
Originally Posted by massivewangers
RS for me. Seats are nicer, interior is better screwed together, and the Pug is just a bit flimsy in general.

A mate of mine had one and it didn't feel noticeably quicker than a standard RS I don't think. It does handle better, without a doubt, but I think the shonky gearchange and shit interior let it down as a road car for me.

Look at all the ford boys with there blinkers on.....



( flame suit on )..... Lol.
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Originally Posted by rsmat
Look at all the ford boys with there blinkers on.....



( flame suit on )..... Lol.
Nowt to do with blinkers. Driven both, and for a road car, I think the better interior and things are more important than a bit more power or handling.

306 does handle better and might be a touch quicker, but I think the interior really lets it down. It feels like a boggo XN inside, and the clutch etc are the usual awful French crap.

It's a shame, cos it's a nice looking car, especially in Phase 3 form, and has a good chassis, but it doesn't feel a complete package to me with such a shonky interior, and the clutch/gear shift spoil it a bit, but then I've never liked that in any French hot hatch I've driven.

Each to their own at the end of the day
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Exactly mate each to there own...but seriously my thoughts and ways are different to yours I'm young enough to accept the shonky interior and gear change... But I woudnt accept the rust that many fords suffer especially the rs2k... But like you say both great cars for different people.

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It is blinkers! no doubt.

I am without doubt the biggest RS2000 fan out there, but for road/track in standard form the GTi6 winds every time.


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