tocca

iTrader: (1)

Hey guys, right im on my way to building my first Zetec Turbo engine

I have the following:

2.0 Silvertop Engine
Accralite 86mm Zetec Turbo Pistons
Fardon Rods
T3/T4 turbo (AR .50 Inlet AR .63 Exhaust)
Tubular Exhaust Manifold

Right. What other spec do you guys recommend? Rover Inlets seem to be the best way to go about having a decent manifold without the need for spending huge ammounts of money? Also what management do you recommend? I know ive got to get uprated valve springs as well. Whats the best and safest way to regulate the boost? I dont want to grenade my new engine out of the box!

Thanks guys

MO' BENT RIMS

mines just a standard engine ,focus rs headgasket,double valve springs and omex management with the rover inlet doing 328bhp and aint blown up! lol try omex or cossie management or whatever your mapper is best at mapping bud..rover inlet are good but they aint accurate enough.. the first piston gets more air than the rest do because of how the inlet is. dont affect me by much because mines running too rich anyway

CrOwSoN15

People seem to rave about Omex so that'd probably be the way to go, if MO's is actually real, then take note of his spec.

massivewangers

iTrader: (1)

The 130PS high output inlet from the RS1800 or XR3i 130 would work fine at 300bhp as far as I'm aware. Saves faffing with the Rover inlet.

Management is entirely down to who you want to map the car. Most tuners will have their preferences, so depends on who you plan to use.

Dan F

Have a lok on the area-six site
Lots of info on there and you know Ian's engine are well tested

tocca

iTrader: (1)

I dont actually know of any mappers around my area (South Wales) so id probaly have to trailer it somewhere to be honest.

Ill take a look at OMEX management and go from there, no one recommend Megasquirt?

MO' BENT RIMS

ask your chosen mapper what hes best at mapping bud and then go fromthere

snoopaloopa

iTrader: (3)

Anyone used the rs2000 inlet to good effect or not?

and I would add rod bolts to that list mate

tocca

iTrader: (1)

my rods come with arp's

massivewangers

iTrader: (1)

RS2000 engine is totally different, so the port spacing is different!

1223456

some good friends of mine run similar spec to that and are using ms,

with that spec if you would struggle not to get 300+

great starting point with a set of valve springs

clarke5700

my set up is

same rods as you
cosworth pistons
ported head
catcam valve springs (area 6 started floting)
dd exhaust manifold
jenvey inlet
kms managment
built by me
last print out was 304
now running 28/29 psi
scairs the shit out of me

1223456

would of expected a bit more from that clarke is im honest, was the 304 on lower boost? pretty sure crazycage is around the 350bhp mark on under 2 bar??

I may be wrong though, gary and rick would the best to comment as they know a fair bit more than me

clarke5700

yup last run was 304 But Now running 28/29 psi havent had it back on the rollers yet

aslo gary is on a compleatly different turbo so no comparison to power/boost presure can be made. si cortina is making 330 @15psi atm

1223456

yeah he is on a gt28 i think, just sorted my new gt out from cr t's

clarke5700

i had a gt30.76 but sold it as dident want to move my rad forward to gain the room

lucky for me ill be ordering a new little toy from a friend in canada

xr2wishy

iTrader: (2)

i don't know for sure on my power as i'm still running it in, but i have wiseco 86mm forged pistons on eagle rods, area six head with cams and valve springs (has run 25psi without issue before), T04B ceramic ball bearing super v trim turbo on a 0.63 housing good for 450-500bhp. arp where it's needed, H/O zetec inlet, siemens deka IV 630cc injectors. run on megasquirt II v3.0 ecu.

that's the basic spec, but should be healthy enough to pull over 400bhp at 2BAR.

the main problem is the gearbox, i run a FRS one with custom shafts and a combination of FRS and cosworth 6 paddle clutch setup, that does add to the bill somewhat, but will last longer than a bc/ib5 box will IMO.


inside this:

clarke5700

snap

slammedorion

Running mine on adaptronics. Silvertop lump with uprated internals, focus Rs inlet, focus Rs turbo plus manifold. It feels quick and its being run in at 12psi lol

tocca

iTrader: (1)

Ill look into that too. Obviously my XR2 doesnt have an injection fuel tank so im going to run an external swirl pot. Im thinking its setup like this:

Tank - Red Top Facet Pump - Swirl Pot - Filter - Injection Pump (Undecided on what one yet) - Fuel Rail.

Then Reurn :

Fuel Rail - Swirl Pot?

v man

dont even bother with the shitty ib5 on a zetec turbo

they produce too much torque for it even in a small spec engine

clarke5700

exatly like mine then lol

xr2wishy

iTrader: (2)

/\ and mine too!

LHD220Turbo

iTrader: (4)

m-tech automotice arent a million miles away from you

they are doing v4 ems fitted and mapped for Ł995, or they were the last time i looked

https://passionford.com/forum/trader...group-buy.html

crazycage

my car was doing 370ish last year @ 1.3 bar mate , dont know what the power was when it was running 1.9 bar but over 400 easy.

v man

got the shafts today mate they look the bollocks

very happy

crazycage

nice one mate , keep me posted on how you get on with the car.

v man

will do

got to chop and extend the exhaust manifold now and make a new boost pipe

gonna fit the hubs n shafts and mount this saturday




sorry to hijack the thread ,,,,,,,,,

tocca

iTrader: (1)

So no return to tank?

clarke5700

yea i have a retern to the tank as its needed

xr2wishy

iTrader: (2)

Top most outlet on swirl pot back to tank.

tocca

iTrader: (1)

Ah right best order a swirl pot then. Anyone got any recommendations for a fuel pump?

Daveysaff

iTrader: (9)

Bosch 044 or similar if you're running an external pump, I'm running a std 2wd cossie pump (or will be lol)

ST Turbo

I've got an Omex ecu and loom for sale... Ł550 plus postage if your interested? Comes with a map for a 440 bhp zetec turbo which you can use as a base to start with...?

chaffe

std bosch k-jet pump is very good and will supply all the fuel you will need for your desired 300bhp

chaffe

you may wish to consider a turbo swap as that will be one laggy turbo for 300 bhp! I had the exact same thing on my 2 litre high compression zvh turbo and it didnt really do much until 4000 rpm, and the physical lag on a downchange/corner exit was very long (a second or two!)

MO' BENT RIMS

chaffe your right there it would be a bit laggy i use a t4 turbo you just got to keep the boost in and not let it come out the power band. in the bends aand roundabouts i jut jack gears and keep it in boost. i would recomend a stage 3 t3 turbo or a gt28

MO' BENT RIMS

there not as bad mate. cheap gearbox and i seen them boxes run some power and take some abuse been fine lol. mtx would be best?

xr2wishy

iTrader: (2)

mtx75 would be best IMO, very good box.
as for turbo a t3/t4 on those A/R's will be a laggy thing, similar to my T04B, but i have a ceramic ball bearing cartridge inside and a super v trim comp wheel, so i get spooling beginning around 2200rpm, but 10psi by around 3500rpm and keeps wanting to go after that, really pulls hard.
have a go with it, may be a little over specified though for 300bhp.

ryan72

Yea ill give it a blast. I had it with a Tubular Manifold cheap enough so if I need to ill probaly make my money back.