How are the MSD stage 3 chip torque wise ?
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But I'm sure he prefer his own product.... I'm trying to say, I think he's bias on this one![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
But i'm proberly gonna contact him for a power grapg on a stage 2 chip![Smile](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
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But I'm sure he prefer his own product.... I'm trying to say, I think he's bias on this one
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But i'm proberly gonna contact him for a power grapg on a stage 2 chip
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Cheers Kennert
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slowpoke, I guess your not so slow anymore ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Tell me about that set-up ?
are you running L6 or L8, was a pectel board necessary ?
What hp and torque are you running?
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Tell me about that set-up ?
are you running L6 or L8, was a pectel board necessary ?
What hp and torque are you running?
Cheers Kennert
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im running l8 with it bein 4x4 no pectel board full closep loop fueling
dont know exact hp and torque as it was live mapped
peaks and holds 27 psi now and im really happy with it
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dont know exact hp and torque as it was live mapped
peaks and holds 27 psi now and im really happy with it
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well i must admit there is one complaint, since ive had a stage 3 chip in me car the car keeps loosing traction on full throttle in the wet
never done it before,,but then i wasnt running 25psi before either
so in a nut shell his chips ar fooking spot on, im soon gonna get a live map on greys off him soon too
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never done it before,,but then i wasnt running 25psi before either
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so in a nut shell his chips ar fooking spot on, im soon gonna get a live map on greys off him soon too
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Originally Posted by kennert
I know ![Smile](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
But I'm sure he prefer his own product.... I'm trying to say, I think he's bias on this one![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
But i'm proberly gonna contact him for a power grapg on a stage 2 chip![Smile](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
Cheers Kennert
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But I'm sure he prefer his own product.... I'm trying to say, I think he's bias on this one
![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
But i'm proberly gonna contact him for a power grapg on a stage 2 chip
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Cheers Kennert
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Originally Posted by kennert
I know ![Smile](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
But I'm sure he prefer his own product.... I'm trying to say, I think he's bias on this one![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
But i'm proberly gonna contact him for a power grapg on a stage 2 chip![Smile](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
Cheers Kennert
![Smile](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
But I'm sure he prefer his own product.... I'm trying to say, I think he's bias on this one
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But i'm proberly gonna contact him for a power grapg on a stage 2 chip
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Cheers Kennert
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b19bal,
is it me or what
by the way his chips are superb.
he sugested i change to a smaller turbo and standard cams ect as greys ect aint the style of driving i do, ya cant faukt him
im soon gonna get a live map on greys off him soon too
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by the way his chips are superb.
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Im very happy with my chip running closed loop lambda control.
It does not feel as punchy as an Ahmed chip when the boost kicks in. However it picks up better, feels more driveable and smooth so I would not be surprised if its actually faster and its just the refined curve that makes it feel less fast.
Better fuel economy too, ive tested it back to back with my Ahmed chip.
It does not feel as punchy as an Ahmed chip when the boost kicks in. However it picks up better, feels more driveable and smooth so I would not be surprised if its actually faster and its just the refined curve that makes it feel less fast.
Better fuel economy too, ive tested it back to back with my Ahmed chip.
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Kennert, you will know after 20 March, when my MSD stage 2 chip (330kit) is fitted by Jan Motor
Just ordered one closed loop chip from stu yesterday!
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
my MSD stage 2 showed 352bhp and 340lb/ft at well lane turbo centre it ran numerous 12.7 quaters at york dragway
have a graph i think if i didnt give it the lad who bought the car
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
standard with a .63 t34
so a .48 would have given more tourque lower
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Originally Posted by tkrath
Originally Posted by Rs Gus
28peak 23held ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
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p.s THAT WAS AT THAT LEVEL BECAUSE IT WAS DONE AT MSD YOU SHOULD SET IT TO THE 26PSI YOU WAS ADVISED AND NOT ANYMORE mine was also at a freind style
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
p.s THAT WAS AT THAT LEVEL BECAUSE IT WAS DONE AT MSD YOU SHOULD SET IT TO THE 26PSI YOU WAS ADVISED AND NOT ANYMORE mine was also at a freind style
a bit more for the hell roflol
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My will only go 23peak and 20hold - going for 310-320bhp
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The chip should be unlimited for off the shelf!!!...ie the more boost the more fuel and appropiate ignition curve....your injectors should lean out before a professional map does!
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
set the boost to what it should be m8 as it may possibly be on a lower load site in the map and may melt
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Originally Posted by tkrath
Originally Posted by Rs Gus
set the boost to what it should be m8 as it may possibly be on a lower load site in the map and may melt
DO AS HE SAYS NOT AS YOU WISH!!!!!!!
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Evening Thomas,
Thought id best pop on and elaborate slightly on what Gus is trying to say![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
The way a chip works, is that at a certain boost pressure the information will start to be read from the line in the fuel and spark maps that are intended to be used "Flat out" so to speak.
Commonly, people think;
" i will run less boost for safety"
or
"I will fit a 2 stage boost control"
And this can lead to problems rather than make it safer, as the information being acessed at the boost pressure is often not what the chip was designed for and can cause under or over fueling.
The bottom line, as Gus rather elequently put it
Is just follow your tuners recomendations and all should be fine for you. We dont recomend you push things too hard as we are, in mail order cases, working in the dark and thus have to leave a strong margin of safety in the software and instructions that we are sending out to you.
In your particular case, 23psi peak with 20psi held will be ok if a little over rich, but ideally i would still like her to "hold" just a little more boost if possible to keep the mixture within my ideal expected window as the instructions do of course state.![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
Hopefully this will clear up any confusion, but if not please feel free to contact me at your convenience as i dont want you to have any doubts after a purchase from me.
Thought id best pop on and elaborate slightly on what Gus is trying to say
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The way a chip works, is that at a certain boost pressure the information will start to be read from the line in the fuel and spark maps that are intended to be used "Flat out" so to speak.
Commonly, people think;
" i will run less boost for safety"
or
"I will fit a 2 stage boost control"
And this can lead to problems rather than make it safer, as the information being acessed at the boost pressure is often not what the chip was designed for and can cause under or over fueling.
The bottom line, as Gus rather elequently put it
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In your particular case, 23psi peak with 20psi held will be ok if a little over rich, but ideally i would still like her to "hold" just a little more boost if possible to keep the mixture within my ideal expected window as the instructions do of course state.
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Hopefully this will clear up any confusion, but if not please feel free to contact me at your convenience as i dont want you to have any doubts after a purchase from me.
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
my MSD stage 2 showed 352bhp and 340lb/ft at well lane turbo centre
have a graph i think if i didnt give it the lad who bought the car
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You already answered my question about the boost
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