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Old 16-08-2011, 06:22 AM
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Have decided on getting the Clifford 650 MK2 alarm for my car, with Intellistart.

Basically, does anyone know of any REALLY good installers who could supply and fit this alarm?

I've found a company called Dynamic Sounds in London, who have brilliant feedback on the bay also. So have already contacted them for a quote.

The alarm itself, installed will be 300 quid with them plus whatever the Intellistart adds on.

I live next to Stansted Airport, but would travel a reasonable distance if required!

Many thanks!
Old 16-08-2011, 04:25 PM
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Bump for the aafternoon/evening users!
Old 17-08-2011, 01:36 AM
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ebay feed back doesnt really mean a lot.

you want someone whos got a good verbal feedback/forum feedback for thier alarms working a good few years after fitting. Clifford alarms are only as good as the fitter. A well fitted alarm will go for the life of the car, a bodged one will be no end of trouble.

K&M acoustics in wigan has a good reputation with modified cars and alarm fitting but hes up in wigan so a bit far.
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
ebay feed back doesnt really mean a lot.

you want someone whos got a good verbal feedback/forum feedback for thier alarms working a good few years after fitting. Clifford alarms are only as good as the fitter. A well fitted alarm will go for the life of the car, a bodged one will be no end of trouble.

K&M acoustics in wigan has a good reputation with modified cars and alarm fitting but hes up in wigan so a bit far.

99%+ feedback on ebay ain't to be sniffed at when you have 60k feedback ratings.
Old 17-08-2011, 07:55 AM
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Wouldn't fit a Clifford full stop, far too installation sensitive. Great for silly toys to impress the kids. I'd far rather fit a Toad or Sigma.
Old 17-08-2011, 08:17 AM
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plenty of good alarms out there and clifford are overated tbh ,quite a few good installers in herts
Old 17-08-2011, 01:32 PM
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i got a clifford 650original. Came with the car but has been brilliant. Only prob is the siren isnt loud anymore. It used to blow your eardrums if it went of. Is there anyway of fixing this?
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Replace the siren
Old 17-08-2011, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Replace the siren
I googled it but no joy. Cant see anyone selling a siren
Old 17-08-2011, 03:58 PM
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Should be able to go to a Clifford dealer and them order you a new one. If the alarm is old old though you're pretty screwed, Clifford also changed the sirens a few times so not all sirens will work with all alarm systems
Old 17-08-2011, 03:59 PM
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Incar electrics in Saint Albans fella!
Old 17-08-2011, 04:37 PM
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mikey b @ sound secure
based in redhill but is mobile, he might come to you?

http://www.soundsecure.co.uk/index.php/about-us


wouldnt trust any1 else
Old 17-08-2011, 08:23 PM
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Thanks guys!
Old 18-08-2011, 08:50 AM
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I wouldnt be telling people on a public forum what alarm you have and what area you live in.

Just asking for trouble imho
Old 18-08-2011, 06:04 PM
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I'm not. I'm telling people that I'd like an alarm, but more importantly a decent installer..?
Old 18-08-2011, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by R4N S S
I wouldnt be telling people on a public forum what alarm you have and what area you live in.

Just asking for trouble imho
Yer as ran will be round breaking into it when his new engine blows up and needs some spares! only kidding mate. How's the build coming on?
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Wouldn't fit a Clifford full stop, far too installation sensitive. Great for silly toys to impress the kids. I'd far rather fit a Toad or Sigma.

Why would you not fit a clifford? they have won best cat 1 at the MEM awards for the past couple of years the toad Ai606 is a piece of shit unrealible and temperental. I have installed car secuirity for nearly 12 years and would only ever have clifford. sigam are not too bad but very basic for the little extra money for the clifford 650 you get black jax, multichannel and remotley adjustable prox sensor rather than old fashioned ultra sonics.

People slate clifford due to there very old Concept 50 alarm (1996ish) which was nicked named the come back 50 as it really was a pile of crap this alarm was the 3rd generataion clifford G4 was brilliant and they are now G5 and working on G6.

If your are fitting a clifford then please find a good installer because as mentioned above install is half the battle.

Alot of installers will slag off clifford and put people onto cobra or sigma etc as they take half the time to fit as a clifford.

Just my 2 pence.
Old 18-08-2011, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil2002
Why would you not fit a clifford? they have won best cat 1 at the MEM awards for the past couple of years the toad Ai606 is a piece of shit unrealible and temperental. I have installed car secuirity for nearly 12 years and would only ever have clifford. sigam are not too bad but very basic for the little extra money for the clifford 650 you get black jax, multichannel and remotley adjustable prox sensor rather than old fashioned ultra sonics.

People slate clifford due to there very old Concept 50 alarm (1996ish) which was nicked named the come back 50 as it really was a pile of crap this alarm was the 3rd generataion clifford G4 was brilliant and they are now G5 and working on G6.

If your are fitting a clifford then please find a good installer because as mentioned above install is half the battle.

Alot of installers will slag off clifford and put people onto cobra or sigma etc as they take half the time to fit as a clifford.

Just my 2 pence.
Where abouts are u based as my clifford 600could do with a service
Old 18-08-2011, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil2002
Why would you not fit a clifford? they have won best cat 1 at the MEM awards for the past couple of years the toad Ai606 is a piece of shit unrealible and temperental. I have installed car secuirity for nearly 12 years and would only ever have clifford. sigam are not too bad but very basic for the little extra money for the clifford 650 you get black jax, multichannel and remotley adjustable prox sensor rather than old fashioned ultra sonics.

People slate clifford due to there very old Concept 50 alarm (1996ish) which was nicked named the come back 50 as it really was a pile of crap this alarm was the 3rd generataion clifford G4 was brilliant and they are now G5 and working on G6.

If your are fitting a clifford then please find a good installer because as mentioned above install is half the battle.

Alot of installers will slag off clifford and put people onto cobra or sigma etc as they take half the time to fit as a clifford.

Just my 2 pence.
You've been an installer for 12 years and haven't offered your services?

Don't fancy it?
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i just asked him that! I could use his services pretty soon
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Jay don't buy a Clifford, they might get good reviews but everyone I know ends up with problems with their car a few years on and it always ends up being the Clifford at fault!
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Originally Posted by Gary F
Jay don't buy a Clifford, they might get good reviews but everyone I know ends up with problems with their car a few years on and it always ends up being the Clifford at fault!
Do you have any suggestions?

I'm still looking for something that I can have a few gadgets on!
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Originally Posted by Phil2002
Rochester kent
Phil did v get my private message?
Old 19-08-2011, 09:36 AM
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Most alarms have gadgets on, roll up windows, boot realease etc. Just ring local places, and ask what options you can have with the alarms they fit.
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Originally Posted by lukeytheduke
Yer as ran will be round breaking into it when his new engine blows up and needs some spares! only kidding mate. How's the build coming on?
lol

Ive just bought a cat 1 alarm and am getting a mate to fit it, along with some other secret mods to make it a bit more secure

My build has slowed a little as waiting to get a decent clutch and have delayed the conversion until after the Ford Dunton day.

Hopefully not long now and i cant bloody wait
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my favorite mods to an alarm install are earth shield the bonnet wire have two bonnet pins one on each side and air horns inside the car under the dash or seat try sitting in there with the alarm going off and door closed.
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Originally Posted by R4N S S
lol

Ive just bought a cat 1 alarm and am getting a mate to fit it, along with some other secret mods to make it a bit more secure

My build has slowed a little as waiting to get a decent clutch and have delayed the conversion until after the Ford Dunton day.

Hopefully not long now and i cant bloody wait
What clutch u going for? 6paddle with hydrolics kit??
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my mate is an auto electrician, fitted cliffords on all my cars and my brothers he has even taken my clifford off my old car and fitted to my new car and it still works amazing, no problems ever! i would never fit any other type of alarm, you just need a good fitter! any alarm badly fitted will cause problems.
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How long is the longest you kept the alarm for though?
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i have been fitting alarms professionally for over 10years and personally i have removed more badly fitted cliffords than any other manufacturer, they are an incredibly time consuming product to install correctly and if these companies that used to advertise in the back of mags GAP etc fitted them they were thrown in and never worked properly.

i install toads, sigma, and cobra and never really got too involved with cliffords.

the ai606 is an amazing product and as versatile as any clifford, same as sigma if you could be bothered to programme the thing correctly.

its all about the fitter at the end of the day.
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Originally Posted by Gary F
How long is the longest you kept the alarm for though?
My clifford was on my Rs Turbo from 2006 - 2010 with additions added in between such as turbo timer, intelistart, auto windows.

its now been on my FRS since 2010!
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Originally Posted by london_chris
i have been fitting alarms professionally for over 10years and personally i have removed more badly fitted cliffords than any other manufacturer, they are an incredibly time consuming product to install correctly and if these companies that used to advertise in the back of mags GAP etc fitted them they were thrown in and never worked properly.

i install toads, sigma, and cobra and never really got too involved with cliffords.

the ai606 is an amazing product and as versatile as any clifford, same as sigma if you could be bothered to programme the thing correctly.

its all about the fitter at the end of the day.
Gap security are a bunch of cowboys and they lashed everything in as each installer was paid per job so spending a day on one clifford was just not worth them doing it, but the toad ai606 is not a patch on the clifford concept 650mk2 and definalty no where near as versitile the clifford has bucket loads more features.

The hornet maxx1 is directed electronics(people who make clifford viper hornet) equivalent to the ai606 and is there entery level cat1 they are so similar that certain parts are even made in the same facory and to look at before install they even look the same.
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Originally Posted by lukeytheduke
What clutch u going for? 6paddle with hydrolics kit??
normal 6 plate paddle mate.
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had a clifford fitted to 3 different cars and not a problem ever,top notch in my book.like been already said its how well its fitted not the product itself,would have another one anyday
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