Psycho Warren

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just look at the stuff on thier focus page: http://streamlinecarbon.com/v2/produ...e/ford-brands/

scroll down and laugh when you get to thier carbon roof at £1500 in pre-preg.... quite why it neede to be pre-preg when something infused with a foam core would have worked just as well... and cost half as much.

some of its not too silly but i suspect theyve gone spastic and got all obsessed about using pre-preg because mongs come to them going "I want pre-preg" yet they dont have a fucking clue what they are on about.

either that or they shift enough to make pre-preg worth while.



its not just streamline. Ive noticed a lot of places charge silly money for stuff in the jap scene especially if its considered "JDM style" when they can pretty much make up any price they want and some fool will pay it.

1223456

if the larger products are as they say they are then they are very very cheap!!!!

But im assuming its low temp prepreg which does not require an autocave, but if its a high temp composite stack thats being used then their pug 106 bonnet for £2000 is a steal!!, especially when you think about how many they would actually sell.

Im personally working on a new mould for the escort mk3/4 which when finished is hopefully not going to use any core material, escecially foam as I find foam holds a lot more resin than actually required, the only purpose of the foam is to creat a void, I think (not fully done yet) I have come up with a way of achieving the same but without adding the extra resin but time will tell on that one

Luca

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What you filling the void with helium??

1223456

lol no pal, ribs but very small. Tried it on flat sheet and it works well but there is more though needed for the roof as it does still need to flex a tad

RSandy

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if you start making a similar rear bumper shield for a s2 rst, i would defo be interested! didnt realise you did carbon products aswell as flocking, fair play

1223456

well I guess we better make our signature a bit omore clear then

yes we can sort one of them out as we currently are working on some composite parts for the mk4, next product we are working on is a rs500 front splitter

Psycho Warren

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But £2000 is a lot of money for people to pay when a equivilent resin infused version would sell for £600..... Its a big difference to ask £2k + for what will likely be a very small weight saving and only slightly better performing product than its £600 equivilent.

BUt as you say, its probably low temp pre-preg or a variation made to thier spec.
Is that closed cell foams? I thought the point of closed cell was to reduce resin absorption.

I guess its worth it for the xtra rigidity but if you can put ribs in the carbon it would achieve similar effect. Thats all its for really as you know the foam has little rigidity itself. Unless of course your using two sheets where as you need to bond them together as when it bends if you dont, it will sheer between the layers.

1223456

not had any experience with that type, cor-cell is what we have been shown to use, dont get me wrong its fine for the job, just trying to think of different and where possible better ways in which to do the job. Will have a look at that type of foam though a bit later

Psycho Warren

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its a play off with weight though at the end of the day. As long as sufficient bond between the skins it doesnt matter how its achieved, be it foam, honey comb, I beams, ribs etc.

Corecell, airex etc all seem pretty similar products with relatively low resin uptake in infusion. Only excess i saw on a panel i did was that i put holes in it to ensure the resin fully infuses both sides of the foam so i dont get any pinholes on the visible shiny side.

I guess you could use two moulded panels then bond them together with foam using a thin skim of adhesive. I guess youd need to test it to see if its lighter in practice for the same kind of rigidity.

Jay,

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lol theres a belief amongst mongs that its not real carbon if it has fiberglass on the back of it its not real carbon ! well im here to tell you there fucking inbred monkey's as carbon IS a treated burnt glass then theres the idiots that are making there own prepreg by just laying carbon on a table then squeegy a application of universal laminating resin then freezing it and calling it prepreg lol

1223456

thats it warren, its all about trial and error at the end of the day, will have to see how we get on but we will post pics up as and when

gise a bell if you get chance and I can give you a quick pointer into using the core mater and removing the danger of pinholes

1223456

if it has fibreglass on the back then it is not a full carbon sheet/composite part

Jay,

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true but the carbon needs to reinforced so a 4 layer tri angle carbon sheet is 4 times the price but people dont understand this lol but at the end of the day its all glass thats my point ! in cosmetic land this is all well but a structure needs reinforcment with the carbon so foam sheets alloy mesh ect are used but some expect a carbon panel to be as tough as a f1 tub lol

RSandy

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haha, now iv actually looked at your sig, im noticing a lot more than just flocking services

the rs500 style splitters for the mk4 escort, thats gonna be a direct fit onto a standard 90 spec bumper yeh? is that carbon or fibreglass? and any prices set out yet? very interested in 1 of these, after spending last saturday offering up 1 off my mates 3dr and considering butchering 1 to fit

1223456

Hello Andy, lol at noticing our siggy, yes it will be a direct fit, as for prices we need to determine the amount of fabric required for the stack v time to make etc.

Having a friggin nightmare at the mo though, our new stainless steel catch pot has decided to spring a leak, just spent 3 hours sorting it :-(

Psycho Warren

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Yeah e-glass at £2 sqm versus 200gsm 2x2 @ £15 sqm. and you probably get it cheaper in bulk but same ratio of cost. But then the great british public sre generally mongs and eithrr expect everything for nothing or spout shit!
Not good! I melted my first one as i left too much resin in it and it exothermed melting through the catchpot what went on yours? Seal or a fitting?
I was thinking of a stainless pot as a local supplier does one then i can degas a nice amount of resin in one.
Will do during the day!

1223456

Hi Warren,

inlets are push in and the outlets and regulating valves are bsp fittings, the leak was a failed o/ring on the lid, only took us 3 hours to locate the problem lol

All sorted now though But it has now put delivery of the product back to next week which is a tad annoying.

Brettski mk2

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I'll have a carbon rs500 front splitter off you aswel!!saph fitment???
Got the last dash bit, I'll get pics up soon cheers