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Old 24-07-2011, 07:52 AM
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Default What rear axle?? for mk1 escort to take 400bhp+

ok everyone
in middle of fitting subaru ej20 2.0turbo in mk1 escort,
engine&gearbox is fitted,
but going to be running it rearwheel drive ,
want to keep it as near as possible to escort handling and looks,
was going to fit subaru rear suspension and rear diff but will look crap

so want to retain beamaxle type axle 5-link setup, anyone got any idear's what other axe will take 400bhp+ ,bear in mind on limited budget
Old 24-07-2011, 08:56 AM
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I don't think you will be able to get a cheap axle that will take 400bhp, though its torque and too many hard launches that kill diffs imo

Atlas axle's can take some power, just not sure on how much!
Old 24-07-2011, 08:59 AM
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My Capri 2.8i special axle has taken abuse for the last 5 years with 350ish yb horses, not sure what the limit is on them though.
Old 24-07-2011, 09:12 AM
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How limited is your budget?

Ford 8.8 as fitted to Mustang and large U.S ford saloons are far cheaper than Atlas will take around 300 standard on a heavy car, so in a light Mk1 far more, and can be upgraded relatively cheaply.
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ok guy's thank's, have to try and source one of these its only 400bhp or so at flywheel so 330-340lsh @ wheels
and will be fitted with wide arches so have bit of width to play with
Old 24-07-2011, 09:53 AM
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Wide arches mean wide rubber and its the traction that will break a axle.

Atlas is proven but a proper one isn't cheap, yank stuff clearly works but weighs a fair bit so depends if that bothers you or not.
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get on the old skool site as some people have used volvo 440 axle and toyboata rear axles have beem used to? you can buy uprated shafts for your english or atlas
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Wide arches mean wide rubber and its the traction that will break a axle.

Atlas is proven but a proper one isn't cheap, yank stuff clearly works but weighs a fair bit so depends if that bothers you or not.
wont be launching it .i am doing it for trackday's but it was produceing 416ftlb in the impreza and maybe more withe the shorter intercooler pipes it will have in the mk1,but might have it mapped with bit less boost.
Old 24-07-2011, 05:29 PM
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i run an 8 inch mustang in mine and have had no problems with 650hp and plenty of hard launches around £1500 delivered from the states
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cheapest option is capri 2.8 special lsd axle.
Old 24-07-2011, 07:18 PM
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If you can fine one then uprate the half shalfs
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
cheapest option is capri 2.8 special lsd axle.
Which is a Atlas lol

Shafts do break though although their not that expensive to change.
Old 24-07-2011, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by graham c
get on the old skool site as some people have used volvo 440 axle and toyboata rear axles have beem used to? you can buy uprated shafts for your english or atlas
Volvo 440 was front wheel drive.

740/760 or 940/960 axles would be a better option.
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Which is a Atlas lol

Shafts do break though although their not that expensive to change.
i wouldnt have a clue tbh lol

had a couple though the black batmobile years ago was mine 2.8 special, and a orange v8 one, the back axles used to be available dirt cheap but i suspect there fetching more nowadays.
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A Atlas is ya best option but for that power you will need to run two pice shafts, even with wide arches it will want narrowing as well.

Atlas may seam pricey to start with but at least all the parts are proven and easy to get 4 link kits, brakes, diff's etc.

Your proberbly still looking at £1600 to get somthing ready to roll.
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as said 8 inch you won't break it

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banger boys use volvo axles they take the abuse then come back for more
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Just been to Fostek and written a guide about Atlas axles; cost a fair bit of money.

If your Escort is bubble arched you can track down a Narrow Atlas from a Mk1 Capri V6 which fit nicely. They cost about £300.

Standard shafts are rated to 300bhp or so then they start snapping.

You ideally need an LSD (£700) and good 2 piece shafts cost about £500 by the time they are all fitted. They aren't cheap but will take the power.
Old 24-07-2011, 09:35 PM
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2.8 Axles come as standard with a LSD.
Old 24-07-2011, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
2.8 Axles come as standard with a LSD.
They are viscous types though and are normally not in great condition so I'd fork out on a plated personally.

The Mk3 Capri 2.8 axles are the wrong size and have the wrong ratios too.
Old 24-07-2011, 10:26 PM
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iv got a 2.8 s atlas on my escort but its been narrowed, came off a 400 bhp drag car so should be ok ( i hope) its lsd aswell
Old 24-07-2011, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by turnover
i run an 8 inch mustang in mine and have had no problems with 650hp and plenty of hard launches around £1500 delivered from the states

where did you get it from mate
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Originally Posted by botters
where did you get it from mate
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Vintage-Car-Truck-Parts-/10073/i.html?_nkw=8%22%20axle&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C39 %253A1%257C72%253A5325&rt=nc&_catref=1&_dmpt=Vinta ge_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&_trksid=p4506.c0.m2 45.l1513&_pgn=1

ebay USA
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
They are viscous types though and are normally not in great condition so I'd fork out on a plated personally.

The Mk3 Capri 2.8 axles are the wrong size and have the wrong ratios too.
I think your wrong about that, the diff in mine was a plated type.... I think !
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Viscous diffs would be a bit ahead of their time for a Capri
Old 24-07-2011, 11:20 PM
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Quite sure the standard Atlas LSD was a ZF plated one, I sold my diff alone for good money and the complete axles these days ( unless your lucky ) do fetch a few quid.
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The Capri 2.8 Special came with a ZF plated diff; no other one did.

The rest of them were Viscous apparentely.
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i have a 2.8 s narrow atlas, has that got the better lsd?
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They never made a Narrow 2.8 Atlas axle; do you mean your one is shortned?

And if it's a S for special then yes it has the better diff.
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
They never made a Narrow 2.8 Atlas axle; do you mean your one is shortned?

And if it's a S for special then yes it has the better diff.

yes its been chopped
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Originally Posted by turnover
i run an 8 inch mustang in mine and have had no problems with 650hp and plenty of hard launches around £1500 delivered from the states
as the man said
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Originally Posted by turnover
i run an 8 inch mustang in mine and have had no problems with 650hp and plenty of hard launches around £1500 delivered from the states
can you share some images of your escorts rear end set up. I would like to put an 8 inch in mine. Thanks!
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