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Old 23-07-2011, 12:33 PM
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Default My Saph Dyno results....

Here's one for you to all argue about

Ran the car at the local dyno day today, result below

Spec of the engine is

Small turbo Escort 200 block
ARP long stud and nut kit
WRC 4 layer SS head gasket
Touring Car spares Gated sump
7.6-1 Comp Ratio
ARP big end bolts
ported & flowed Cyl Head
MA spec inlet Cam
Kent Vernier pullys
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Small turbo Inlet manifold plenum
4x4 Exhaust Manifold
Rochester 1000cc injectors
Turbo Technics T38 turbo

Originally build by Mark Shead and run by Dave Moss in YUM, was then bought by RSToughy off here, who had it in his garage for years then rebuilt it and sold it to me.

Now Running on L8 and mapped by Tony at turbosystems.

For the doubters out there, The car was run straight after John's Saph, which made a believable figure, (i will let him post that up) Tony was there and happy with everything, the dyno is a hub type not rolling road, so no tyre slip etc.



507.9 bhp and 430ish lb/ft

ignore the 300ish graph as that is an overlay of my previous run with the old engine.
the surge looking bit is probably due to me only fitting the boost controller last night so its not set up perfectly.

Let the arguments commence....

oh and steve.....

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Old 23-07-2011, 12:36 PM
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Dam thats good power,well done.
Old 23-07-2011, 12:37 PM
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pathetic power when compared to that reno 5 gt turbo @675 bhp
we need a reno 5 fook these cosworths
looks like we won the race home though even in johns slow car

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Old 23-07-2011, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Mannock
pathetic power when compared to that reno 5 gt turbo @675 bhp
we need a reno 5 fook these cosworths
Very true, just been watching youtube videos of that thing, fucking animal!
Old 23-07-2011, 12:45 PM
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best you post the reno you tube link for the reno haters on here
Old 23-07-2011, 12:48 PM
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http://youtu.be/DE5DfQpK2ag

like i said, fucking Animal!!!

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Old 23-07-2011, 12:49 PM
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Nice power mate true or not,T38's fucking rock imo
Old 23-07-2011, 12:49 PM
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thats very impressive for a T38.
nice figures to have.

im guessing your talkin about scoffs black R5?
Old 23-07-2011, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by stu21t
thats very impressive for a T38.
nice figures to have.

im guessing your talkin about scoffs black R5?
yep, nice fella, was speaking to him for a while.
Old 23-07-2011, 12:53 PM
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i thought t38s couldnt reach that power figure??
Old 23-07-2011, 12:53 PM
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fraser is the new world record holder for tt t38 power
Old 23-07-2011, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lukeytheduke
i thought t38s couldnt reach that power figure??
you thought wrong
Old 23-07-2011, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Mannock
you thought wrong
Whats their limit then?!
Old 23-07-2011, 12:58 PM
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Nice power

And yeah Scoff's 5 is an animal

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Originally Posted by lukeytheduke
Whats their limit then?!
Usually 450 mate
Old 23-07-2011, 01:14 PM
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their limit appears to be 507

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Old 23-07-2011, 01:24 PM
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mmmm maybe i ll just stick with my tt t38 with the new engine
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Excellent result mate, well done
what boost are you running?
Old 23-07-2011, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Mannock
their limit appears to be 507
Look like Marks cam is working then . Pathetic torque for a MAD engine though .
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less torque but a lot more hp
but it is on an old weber ecu now that came free with the car
Old 23-07-2011, 01:51 PM
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Steve will have something to say about the crap torque for sure , good power though m8.

Steve
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id say 430lbs is good torque
Old 23-07-2011, 01:53 PM
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remember this is a hub dyno not a rolling road
the other sierra cosworth there made alot more torque but that wasn't running marks cams rod lol

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Old 23-07-2011, 01:57 PM
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Iv just had an rs500 engine built by SCS with 560hp and 450lbs/ft so the torque on the aboe engine is pretty good
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
id say 430lbs is good torque
Compared to Steve's it isn't.

Steve
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the mega reno 5 that made an astounding 674 bhp had around 470 torques I believe
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Compared to Steve's it isn't.

Steve
nobody counts rolling road figures steve
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My first post on this forum, noticed that TCF is 1,18 which means 18% drivetrainlos is this loss regulary used inn uk?

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Originally Posted by Tony Mannock
nobody counts rolling road figures steve
Has the tall one been on the phone yet for more POWERRRRRRRR lol

Steve
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Has the tall one been on the phone yet for more POWERRRRRRRR lol

Steve
not recently I believe his wife has put her foot down and ordered him some from the littlewoods catalogue
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Originally Posted by Tony Mannock
not recently I believe his wife has put her foot down and ordered him some from the littlewoods catalogue
A couple of "my little ponies" for his dashboard i heard pmsl,

Or, he is saving his phone credits for the lengthy expensive call to you

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the problem with steve is he thinks that 50 p is alot of money for a mobile phone call
next time he rings I am going to send him the bill for my time on the phone roflol
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Didn't this engine make 480 when it was in yum





Cheers stu
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466/420 looking at the graph in the resto thread.

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very impressive mate even if its a tad ott (huge debates as usual about dyno's). personally i'd be looking at the shape of the graph and trying to iron it out a bit but i think you know whats going on so you'll prob be able to sort that fairly easily.

more importantly though, is your transmition and suspension upto the challenge of raining in that torque??
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466 on norris designs engine dyno i believe, the cam is timed to tonys figures now and its on webber not autronics.
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Not sure if mark did any work after the engine dyno though.
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Originally Posted by STUCOS
Didn't this engine make 480 when it was in yum





Cheers stu

466 iirc Stu....
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Originally Posted by phil_focus
very impressive mate even if its a tad ott (huge debates as usual about dyno's). personally i'd be looking at the shape of the graph and trying to iron it out a bit but i think you know whats going on so you'll prob be able to sort that fairly easily.

more importantly though, is your transmition and suspension upto the challenge of raining in that torque??
It is at the moment
6 degree beam soon, want to get some miles on her first though.
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I don't know how people can say 437ft.lb is crap...

Makes my ICKLE T35 with just 362ft/lb seem like a Nissan Micra


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