looking at changing my car for a 1400cc so i can compete in the A1 class at a few hillclimbs and sprints.

-Production cars below 1400cc

was thinking along the lines of a 1400cc 16v K series metro?

any idea's

going to be a daily driver as well...

 

would idealy be ford/vauxhall as ive got a pretty good idea of how these go together...

 

14. 16 corsa im building a rally car at the moment and its kicking out 190bhp, or a swift gti 13. 16 there quite quick

 

swift is a good call. class A1 allows no modifications other than safety ones so has to be great out the box....

 

you on a swift then mate, remeber you can do alot with just safety gear

 

i think a cage puts it in the modified production class

swift would be good, also looking at a 1.4 corsa 16v, strong engines.

thinking it might be easier just to go in a higher class that allows modifications ha ha

 

what about a 106 Rallye Series 1??? 1300cc and 100bhp! very light and handle superbly! and go together easier than any vauxhall or ford!

 

would a starlet glanza work? is a 106 rally not a 16 8v?

 

not looking to be ultra competetive at first, just something to step into the sport before stepping up to a higher class later on, just looking for somthing with cheap spares and easy maintenace that wont be a total slouch in the time being..

 

106 rallye series 2 is a 1.6 8v and 88bhp!

 

good base for what you need imo!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1996-PEUGE...item35b3adae0f

 

look good actually

just not a peugeot man

still, looking at the current line up in the series, peugoeot/clio/citoren's seem to be the most common so they must be doing something right lol

 

Metro K series, you can even plug in after market emerald K3 ecu into it for mapping, and even hide the emerald ecu parts inside the K series ecu casing if needed.
I vote metro, so many around, spares cheap, easy to work on, K series when sorted has a lot going for it.
tabetha

 

What about an ax gt had a few of these when I was younger

 

106 Rallye or Swift GTi

 

Is there? I don't see them very often at all!

106 Rallye is a good suggestion. Good handling out of the box and relatively light. Getting to be sought after though so prices are on the up.

Other options would be Corsa 1.4 16v, Swift GTI, Nova SR, MK4 Fiesta 1.4 Si, AX GT, Saxo Furio, 106 Quiksilver.

There's lots of little cars out there that would be ok. The Swift would be decent as it would have good performance. Downside is that there probably aren't many in breakers yards, so parts aren't going to be as easy to get as some others. Corsa is ok, but there's better chassis out there. Parts are plentiful however. AX is much the same as the swift; good, but old and getting scarce. Saxo, 106 and Fez are decent, but may lack oomph perhaps.

I'd go for the 106 Rallye, just cos I think they're cooler than all the others

 

get that nova to your local oval racing track mate, you will never look back cheap ish racing and great fun the best buzz you will have i promise

 

Renault 5 GT Turbo, Fiat Uno turbo.

 

You will usually find turbo cars have their capacity multiplied by 1.4 to keep things level so a 1.4 turbo will be in the same class as a 2.0 n/a car.

I have a nice non-sunroof 1.4 peugeot 205 sitting in my drive that would be ideal for what you want

 

What mods count as safety if you can't have a cage? Bucket seat and harness?

Yaris 1.3's have nearly 90bhp which is more than a 1.4 quicksilver at 75ish, but im not sure the handling would be as good.

So the rest of the car has to be exactly standard no exhaust etc? I'm quite keen to have a look at the rules but I'm struggling to find the exact ones, anyone got a link?

 

Turbos will normally be applied with a 1.4 multiplier for engine size, so would put him in the wrong class.

 

I think the k series metro you mentioned originally is quite a good choice.

Corsas dont handle particuarly well out of the box so I would avoid those, and french car wise you arent spoilt for choice for multivalve sub 1400 engines.

 

the metro does seem decent, other than that hydrogas suspesion, i changed the sphere's on the back of a mates citoren xantia and that was i PITA.

anyone had any problems or had any units in for repair?

Original metro 1400 GTI's are quite hard to find.

 

Had 2 older metros and had no problem suspension wise. They are quite fun little cars to drive and if you can find a 114gti I say go for it.

 

AX gt would get my vote, bloody rapid things.

 

according to the blue book, the rules are as follow's,

11.1.1. must have 1000+ examples made a year

11.2. must be in a road legal condition

Chassis---

11.3. Original Chassis Construction, dimensions and material must remain. Roll cages must not accept or assist and direct suspesion loads.

Body---

11.4.1. Silhouette or the vehicle must remain unaltered in Construction, dimensions and material. the silhouette will be taken in the condition in which the car competes.

11.4.2. Engine cover/bonnet and luggage/boot cover may be replaced with an alternative material.

11.4.3. original glass must remain

11.4.4. wheel arch extension and bonnet louvres are pemmited provided the silhouette continues to comply with 11.4.1.

11.4.5. aerodynamic devises may be fitted providing the silhouette complies 11.4.1.

11.4.6. interier trim must remain fitted (ecept floor carpet/mats)

11.4.7. all working exipment fitted as standard must remain operable at all times (heater, window mechanisms, sunroof, doorhandles etc)

Engines---

11.5.1.cylinder block and cylinder head must remain in original position and be of original type and material. Induction is free (forced induction equivelency is 1.4) as are exhaust systems, but engine must remain in the same capacity class as original.

Wheels & Tyres---

11.6.1. wheels are free

Suspension---

11.7.1. suspension configuration must remain standard.

Transmission---

11.8.1.

(A) The gearbox are diffential casing must be of the original type and material and remain in the original position.

(B) the method of gear selection must remain standard (sequential selection only where fitted as standard.

phewww.....

so i can turbo a 1 liter up to 1399cc (effective capacitiy)

i can fit fiberglass bonnet and boot,

needs a full interier.

rollcage is limited to a front and rear hoop and door bars.

not a clue how to fit an aerodynamic devise without affecting the silhouette

 

I wouldn't worry too much about aerodynamics on a 1.4 car; it's unlikely you'd reach speeds to notice any difference.

But that Nova he has is mint? Why would you ruin it doing oval racing?

 

so it needs a full interior, and it needs to be light??

im telling you...go with my series 1 106 rallye idea...you won't be disappointed!

 

What about diesels?

Sometimes in motorsport diesel turbo is treated as same cc as N/A petrol

Ie you could run a 1.4 diesel turbo probably.

 

Nobody has said the Fiesta 1.25 zetec, 75bhp (if i remember right) Mine was fairly quick, not sure if you can get the power up a bit??
Plus the fiesta was a pretty good handler (IN MY OPINION)

 

You would realy struggle to make a 1.25 competitive power wise against a 1400 on a similar budget I suspect.

 

Saxo 1.4 westcoast/furio has gotta be a good shout surely!? Basically a 1.4 vtr IIRC

 

agreed, although theres a 1.4 version, not sure how it compares with the other zetec SE's though... think its about 90 brake

 

68bhp Phil and wouldnt pull your dick straight!!

106 rallye and be done!!

 

your really persistant

to be honest mate, a guy in collage had a 106 and he always had it on the ramps in the workshop sorting little faults out, then having the torsion beam seized in the rear subframe was the last straw and he sold it to buy a fiat uno turbo, im not a fan of french cars on the whole and untimately if you dont like the car then whats the point?

 

Were the Rallyes produced in large enough numbers to be eligible?

 

8v = fail

 

can you not get out in a mates 1.4 fiesta, ax gt, swift etc and give them a comparison?

Diesels are a good shout too, will be better for using it as a daily too

 

Pug 106 XSi is a 1.4. Considered a Civic? I'm not sure whether their 1.4 engines are VTECs though I know they do a 1.5 SOHC VTEC.

 

http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/competitors.asp

thats the current competiters list with the HSA,

just 2 micra's, a corsa and a 106