So if a registrar cant buy or sell how is he going to own one?

Unless you are saying the registrar can only have the job if they own a car and dont sell it untill they leave the position, because they might use their contacts to make a better price

Hardly enticing anyone into a valuable position

Registrar should be elected by the RSOC board and thats it, any evidence of wrong doing then it should be investigated.

Depending on the RSOC definition of 'wrong doing'



If you dont like the way RSOC registrars work there are official ways to complain and provide facts to the club.

 

But that's exactly the way your first post, and subsequent posts come across, and no amount of ''s detract from that.

As I said, in essence I can see that there could be a percieved conflict of interest, but seeing as Paul (to the best of my knowledge) has been more than honourable in the role of registrar, I cannot see the motivation nor reason for your posts.

 

I think he was just making the point that he feels its a conflict of intrests if a registra deals in the cars he is registra for. i think you have the hardest registra job because in my observations over the years most posts and conversations regarding "RS500" turns into a nightmare

 

buying a car for personal use i dont see being an issue,

buying a car to sell soon after, which will probably make money is what i mean.

there is a difference

 

And are you trying to tell me that only traders do that

If thats the case about 95% of users on here and every other website on the net are traders

You are just one of them who think traders shouldnt make a living like everyone else does

You chose to go and work for somone for wages . i chose to make my own wages ,i am exactly the same as you other than i use my own money , take the risks and try to make a wage plus a bit of proffit

For some reason this is fround uppon

 

Spiky,
Although I can see what you are saying, your arguement holds no water. It is unfair to tar other people with the same brush just because in your expereience you have seen one person abuse their position for their own financial gain.

The fat Robbie Williams look-alike is one of the good guys and has pretty strong morals and principals and has too much to lose to risk cheating anyone (in today's current climate, a reputation is worth more than any financial gain you're talking about ).

Next you'll be saying to ban all men from being lorry drivers because one of them was a murderer . Innocent until proven guilty surely?

 

Very hard to legislate it tho........

 

was that the one from bathgate then ?

 

yes mate !
good read this

 

So sorry to hear Paul getting this hassle - if he does up a car you can bet it is a superb job and a shed load of hours and effort has gone into it... they always look stunning and he simply doesn't scimp.

I got mine (yes I knew it was a reshell) from the last registrar and I have to say that they were also helpful. In between agreeing the price and collecting it the history of the car with Tickford and all the reshell info came to light... it jumped up in value immediately but he stuck to his word and the price stayed the same. Couldn't be fairer than that!!

Its the Aussies who seem to be after mine now... and I keep getting offered a shed load more than I paid for it. Pauls influence must be going far and wide. I dont want to sell - so I keep getting offered more... but its staying with us for sure

 

Dont let it go Andy

you have put far to much into that car to let somone else have the fun

Plus as you know the values are still going only one way

Ps, thanks for the kind words ,

 

why are the aussies after it andy?

 

i cant think of anyone more suitable as the 500 registrar than paul ,he eats and sleeps these cars ,

he also puts his money where his mouth is ,with a collection of sierras people can only dream about

 

Thanks James

















The tenner is in the post

 

email me a tenner paul

 

I had an Aussie guy take a look at it when it was on show in the NEC classic car show 2-3 years back James. I had driven there in the rain and spent a few hours cleaning it - it was on the Tickford stand because of it being the last of the pre production cars / the parts validation service vehicle. This is the one that was not road registered until after the Touring car championships were all over etc. and was brought back from Germany.

An irish lad waved £18 then £20k in front of my nose in a satchell thingy... you had to be there to believe it! I turned it down and half hour later the first of some aussies came over.

They seem to have taken a message or two back lol!

 

Its staying Paul - but perhaps I should have you take a good look over it at some point for me mate?

I was under it again weekend before last... work has been nuts and I am desperate to have a real drive again Front crank seal is weeping again mind you... ggrrrr

 

Love your 500 Andy, first pics just does it for me, White 500s are cracking....

 

i remember your car andy,i was at that show

but it wasnt me waving the money at you lol


its a beauty mate


i dont know why ford bothered with crank seals ,

 

You've got the best of both worlds andy,using it on track and road like intended and still climbing in price.Will catch up with you at combe if you're going?

 

I will have to look round it again Andy , you have done so much since i have seen it

 

Sorry to hijack the thread but yep, plan to be at Coombe. Forget the cash lads, she ain't for sale

James - did we chat pal???

 

you,ll be in luck then was it not a brand new ford crank seal or was it cam seals i gave you last year ?

editted: sure it was cam seals

 

no ,i never got a chance to andy

 

Yep indeed - they were the ones I fitted and they are much better... I think she needs more breathing really as there must be boost getting into the crankcase despite the good ring seal etc.

Every time I thrash her something starts leaking - lol It is only a slight weep as you can see... I keep telling myself its a cossy so just wipe it off once in a while

Thanks for those seals - made it lot better

 

no problem , good to see somebody getting use out them save them lying about

 

i can see where Steve is coming from but we cannot let someone spoil it for others etc....we are all different etc...and cannot let one or two other incidents spoil it for others.

Paul is a top bloke and doing a very good job imo,hope he carries on with it for many years.

 

my experiance with paul has been great,always supplied parts needed at decent prices and always got time for a crack on phone,genuine guy

thanks for sorting my mate out with back bumper and jacking covers couple of weeks back paul

 

theres stories floating about how a certain person who likes certain rs's and buys them to sell them comes round and fault finds and then bangs on about said fault begging the price down but when selling it skirts over the issue with comments that are completely opposite what they said when buying the thing.
thats the problem with rarer cars people get to find out whats been said and end up feeling they did buisness with a bull shitter

 

did anyone ever make contact with the guy selling this??

 

Name and shame

otherwise your pub talk story isnt worth talking about

 

spot on paul, i think those that are making insinuations need to go to the rsoc comittee and show them some form of evidence to go with their suspicions.

put up or stfu

 

Its all pub gossip Chris , always has been and always will be

The internet is common folks front page of the sun , lol

Im sure if anyone who actually talks this bullshit could say for sure it actually happens they would go to the RSOC committee as it isnt right , but nobody ever does ,,,,,,,,,,,I wonder why , lol

I think some people cant get there head round why registrars and RSOC committee do spend so much of there time for free so will assume there is somthing going on
Just because they wont do anything to help others free they cant understand why we do

 

Never met Paul but can't say I've heard a bad word said about him on here.

As for the valuation thing/trading conflicts etc tbh if he valued a clean rs500 at say £30000 but the owner in desperation needed £15000 there and then to pay for a kidney or something and paul can buy it then why not?why let a private person do the same and he makes £15000 profit,we'd be all over the private guy but scorning the trader.

I don't think smit was implying Paul to be unscrupulous,yet I feel his argument holds no real water.yes,you take it to these people to get a valuation etc but I'm pretty sure you'd do your own research as well so you have a rough idea,plenty of magazines out there if you have no t'internet.

The only thing that I disagree with Paul about is Cossie valuations.whenever someone's selling one it's worth jack,yet when he's selling it its "sensibly priced".

I'm sure I'm about to get royally slated for daring to say that but I'm pretty sure there's a few members on here who have muttered the same under their breath over the years.

All IMO of course,Paul is a trader and knows what's selling and what's not and I for one respect that but I do feel sometimes it's one rule for one and one for another.

 

Lol,

If i dont buy at one price and then sell at a higher price i wouldnt be in business would i

Its the same with every item you ever spend your money on

You weekly food is sold to you at proffit , your electricity is sold to you at a proffit , your fuel , your carpets and other items in your house
everything you ever buy has a proffit from you out of it , this is how the world turns mate

The problem i have is everyone knows my business , you dont know what ASDA etc pay for the goods they sell you

Everyone loves to slate a trader that makes a proffit from them , yet when there desperate to sell and we are the only ones waving the cash they like us

Its ok for you or anyone else to buy a car , do it up and sell it for more than youpaid , but god forbid a trader does the same and were all greedy cunts

You and others who work for somone are yourself made a proffit from every week , do you not think you are there to make your boss a proffit ?

Life is all about proffit , without it the world would simply stop and we would all have nothing , not even food

Funny how its only forums like this one that hate traders

I know , Ill buy a car for 5k and sell it for 5k eh

I do not force anyone to sell me anything , I make an offer and if they want to sell they do, if they dont they dont , you will be suprised how many folk abuse us when we make offers but then come back with there tail between there legs tho when they realise they cant sell for a penny more than we offer , and i would say thats 90% of the time

I love it when i get the " your off you head you robbing cunt " replies , then 2 months later we get the " alright MATE " phoncalls , lol

 

Hmm,I think your computer displays a different message to the one`s that I write mate!!!!
If you actually read what I`d written I said that you SHOULD make a profit on what you sell,I DETEST people who argue other people shouldn`t make a profit,no matter who or what it is,trader or private,why not after all,although I bought my house for a knockdown price cos the couple needed a quick sale,I certainly won`t be passing that saving on to the next person,in fact I`ll be adding at least £50K to the price I paid for it,although I`ve probably put that into it!!!!
I`ve had my own business mate and if you remember on a thread a few months back I said your labour rates of IIRC about £15 per hour were ridiculously cheap for the standard of work you do (EsCos from memory,sills&battery tray),I`m sure plenty of people on here suddenly got interested in using your skills at that price,your point COMPLETELY accepted on "Your a wanker" this week and "Hi buddy,how`s things?Have you got XXXXX ?" the next,I fucking hate that but of course in business how do you turn people away you don`t like,especially now as times are stinkingly bad.
IMO mate,your very brave to be doing what your doing right now and I bet sometimes you wish you were still being paid regularly for what you do,I know I did and the day I closed the door on my business was one of the happiest days of my life,I honestly think another year of that and I`d be jumping off three cliffs,it was hideous and I can never have more than 1000000% respect for anyone who makes a go of it,looks as though your doing ok from it as well.
I`ve re-read my post and can`t see how you came to that outcome but if it came across that way I`m extremely sorry.
My point was,and I stand by it,is that often you can be quick to tell people their cars aren`t worth what their asking and how you can pick them up for fuck all,yet when your selling,the cars worth X amount more and you can`t get one for these prices etc!!!
Like I said thats just IMO and it doesn`t detract from the fact you put more into the ford RS scene than I ever have and your business is rock solid,personally I`d have no qualms whatsoever buying from you and have recommended you to several boys I know purely from your name on here,I think a few bought off you with very good results.

 

The problem with the internet is things read 2 ways

Funny how people do assume i make a fortune tho ,

I buy cars and do sell them for more , BUT , i invest money in fixing the things that need doing ,this costs money and adds to the price i paid so people will assume i make X when infact by the time i have paid for repairs / paintwork / my wages / advertising costs etc i dont make a lot , and what i do make the tax man wants his cut

Also you probably would be shocked to know that my accounts for 2010 have just come back and i made a loss , and quite a big loss

I also will make a loss this year as so far i am well down . and if things dont pick up soon i like many others will be throwing the towl in as i cant carry on working at a loss

I have thought very hard about finding a full time job as i was far better of when i worked for somone else , plus no hassle

 

Erm i think you mean Steve (Spiky) not myself.............

 

so you have been slagging me of aswell

 

CHRIST

someone SPOT where i slatted PAUL???.....

HOW THE FOOK HAS IT TURNED INTO ME PERSONNLLY HAVING A AGO AT PAUL?????


andy, the car is looking nice now, that was my first RS500 that i had driven, was a bit mad with a T4 and damp conditions..lol