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Old 02-06-2011, 07:45 PM
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Who is best for doing this conversion, anyone had it done? any idea of the cost.

Ta muchly.

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Old 02-06-2011, 07:58 PM
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Cr turbos iirc
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Correct! ^
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Cheers lads, i have tried them, nearly fell over when the told me how much , anyone else i can try would be helpfull.

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£600 ish?? Maybe more!

Its not a cheap conversion!!
Old 02-06-2011, 08:28 PM
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Near enough what i paid for the T4 Jim

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Old 02-06-2011, 08:44 PM
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Now you're sounding as Tight as RAILWAY MAN..............

Wait til he sees this thread Steve....

Sell it and buy a Borg Warner, or GTX...
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Pete, i could get a GT30 for the price of the conversion

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Old 02-06-2011, 09:11 PM
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Get the GT
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Pete, i could get a GT30 for the price of the conversion

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Steve, you've answered your own question there bud imo..
Old 02-06-2011, 09:19 PM
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I think CR are the only place that does the conversion.
I paid £1500+ i think it was for my Roller T4 3 years ago then paid more for porting to stop wastegate creep.
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Originally Posted by staffi
Steve, you've answered your own question there bud imo..

yeh but itll take a few treads and 4.2 million gig of bandwidth to realise it tho staffi

sorry steve but you you know i love ya
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I think i can improve elsewhere and still gain response that I'm after, and at a fraction of the cost.

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Originally Posted by Jay_
yeh but itll take a few treads and 4.2 million gig of bandwidth to realise it tho staffi

sorry steve but you you know i love ya
Jay, are you getting me confused with the taller Steve with the fake 3dr

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Old 02-06-2011, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Jay, are you getting me confused with the taller Steve with the fake 3dr

Steve

shit sorry !! im getting old you know
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I should have a GT30 on my car in a few weeks so will be able to compare that to the roller T4 i had on my old car.
Old 02-06-2011, 10:32 PM
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I've heard that the T4 RB with the 82 housing is a really good turbo and produces decent power
Old 02-06-2011, 10:34 PM
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Steve,

What power are you going for then. Just enough to beat tight arse into submission i hope?
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4" Downpipe? Got to be a fairly cheap improvement? I have a rollerbearing T4 with a 247 shaft, but not had chance to run/remap the car yet
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Steve,

What power are you going for then. Just enough to beat tight arse into submission i hope?
Rich, it has enough power already which has been proven, just lacks a little low down response.

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well either turbo will improve that steve
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
4" Downpipe? Got to be a fairly cheap improvement? I have a rollerbearing T4 with a 247 shaft, but not had chance to run/remap the car yet
Does the downpipe improve it much m8.

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Old 03-06-2011, 07:43 AM
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gt3076.82 will piss what you want from the t4 mate.....

even a gt35 with anti surge will piss it on response
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What you need is a AB07 INLET CAM

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Jay, are you getting me confused with the taller Steve with the fake 3dr

Steve
At least mines not a TAXI

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Originally Posted by cossie4i
At least mines not a TAXI

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But it's got enough windows to class it as a bus
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
But it's got enough windows to class it as a bus
Now that is bitchy

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Pete, i could get a GT30 for the price of the conversion

Steve

Not one that will last .

The correct GT30 converted to Cossie use would cost £1500....

Be careful of the cheap ones as they WILL have the plastic bearing case, one less compressor blade and not have the correct oil / water mods - all of which would cost you to have done....
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
But it's got enough windows to class it as a bus
FPMSL
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Not one that will last .

The correct GT30 converted to Cossie use would cost £1500....

Be careful of the cheap ones as they WILL have the plastic bearing case, one less compressor blade and not have the correct oil / water mods - all of which would cost you to have done....
Mike, the price i was quoted wasn't far from the price you have given above

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Mike, the price i was quoted wasn't far from the price you have given above

Steve

That is because it is very labour intensive to convert a T4 to a roller-bearing core. You'd be better off selling your T4 and buying the aforementioned GT30 (but DON'T buy the cheap one, or you will be no better off in response and worse off in reliability.....).
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
But it's got enough windows to class it as a bus
Fucking pmsl at that Chris !!!
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
But it's got enough windows to class it as a bus
FPMSL... brilliant.


Cheers,
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
But it's got enough windows to class it as a bus
quality
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and get it external waste gated.....
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Will be sticking with what i have for now, no way can i justify the price for a ball bearing conversion and don't want to spend out on a new turbo, as i have said I can improve the response by making the engine better to suit the T4.

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i recon it will be cheaper to get an internaly gated gt3076 conversion kit.... aet turbos and universal turbos done them kits for around £1300 all in.... might have gone up slightly....

then your t4 must be worth £600+ sounds like a cheap conversion mate.... and if you have headwork it will be rapid..... and have loads of low down power....

its worth asking dave moss if hes sold his gt30 (its dave) on here
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i dont think the gains are worth the cost if your turbo is ok anyway, my engine has seemed to gain around 100 rpm, 20 lbft and 10 hp in lower revs from journal to bb same turbo, cam timing hasnt been optimised this time so may gain another 100 rpm but still not much considering the costs involved imo.

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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
i dont think the gains are worth the cost if your turbo is ok anyway, my engine has seemed to gain around 100 rpm, 20 lbft and 10 hp in lower revs from journal to bb same turbo, cam timing hasnt been optimised this time so may gain another 100 rpm but still not much considering the costs involved imo.
but from a t4 to a gt30 theres a big difference... as my mates t4 8inj 3dr makes full boost by 4400rpm and my gt35 4inj set up makes full boost around 3500rpm and considering my turbo can flow 600bhp+ on the right engine and a t4 cant touch it

so a gt30 would be abit better, so thats abig difference, and if you can sell the old turbo for £700 then its pretty cost effective if you ask me
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Originally Posted by rsmark86
but from a t4 to a gt30 theres a big difference... as my mates t4 8inj 3dr makes full boost by 4400rpm and my gt35 4inj set up makes full boost around 3500rpm and considering my turbo can flow 600bhp+ on the right engine and a t4 cant touch it

so a gt30 would be abit better, so thats abig difference, and if you can sell the old turbo for £700 then its pretty cost effective if you ask me
i totally agree but the op is talking about going from journal to bb on a t4 lol


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