AJC

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as above?

is it points and fine or just fine?

or its it ok if you have a passenger in the car that has his class 1?

reson i ask is my mate wants to borrow my car trailer, i've told him about license etc as he only has standard UK license, i have my class 1 so i think i'd be ok if i went with him?

confused.com

cheers

AJC

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p.s does any one know if A frames are now illegall?

graham c

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tx stuffy he,s got done for this andy think a frames mite be ok

Jay,

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min of 1k fine tow car trailer and contents compounded and they can through bo insurance at you to so possible 6-8 points and you need to drive to make it legal if you have the licence ! vosa are getting really tight on trailer towing weights ect to

fraser9764

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iirc there is something on dvla website about displaying L plates if someone else is in the car. I'll have a quick look.

edit. nope can't find it but im sure its there somewhere

AJC

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right, thanks for that pal, i can't drive it as my foot is in a cast, i best tell him lol

i knew they were getting stricter, just didn't know how strict

AJC

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http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...les/DG_4022564

neilscott83

A mate of mine got caught last year he got 3 points and a £500 fine?

dingla rs

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depends how meany years ago he past his test pre 97 your ok as its on ur licence mine is anyway so is me mates

mattseries2

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Depends what your towing, and what your towing with.

focusv8

With no trailer licence you are effectively driving with no licence.
It's easier to understand the severity and penalty if you look at it that way.

Class 1 doesn't automatically entitle you to drive a car with a trailer. If your class 1 is after 1997 you still need a B (+E ) entitlement

B13 JUS

iTrader: (24)

you are wrong on this one mate.
i have my class one and got b+e automaticly

scoobydooby914

The police will seize it from you initially under section 165 of the roads traffic act. As it's basically classed as driving with no licence

BIG WULL

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i've always wondered that. Having passed my test after 1997, to tow a trailer over 750kg i will have to sit a B+E test. I've gone to sit it a few times then thought against it since my work has been saying they would put me through my class 1. I assumed this would entitle me to B+E? or thats my understanding of it??

But as said, the answer of towing a trailer without the licence is the same as driving anything without a licence.

Steve the Plumber

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Slightly off topic,

Do you have to insure the trailer your pulling separately?

Or does the tow vehicles insurance already cover it?

jonfoc

A frames are legal but only if the car you are towing is legal, ie taxed and tested. Again though you need to have the correct entitlement on your licence. What alot of people don't seem to realise is that its all to do with weight too. So to put it in easy terms you cant carry a cossy saph on a b/ James double axle trailer if youre towing it with a smaller car, say an escort. This is due to a weight imbalance, they are very strict on towing these days

B13 JUS

iTrader: (24)

i passed my car test in 1998 so i would have to sit a test to tow over 750kg
but in 2009 i passed my class 1 so this gives you the entitlement automatically to pull a trailer over 750kg because i have my class 1.

BRAMMER

iTrader: (23)

I passed my test in 97 and had the trailer on my licence but got 6 points and had to do the test again in 98 and when i got it back it was a completely new licence and the trailer was off

*Bri.4.b.Cos*

I was under the impression as long as the train weight was under 3500kg ie car, trailer and trailered vehicle it was ok on a post 98 licence.

auldy

Thats rite mate

auld

Mk1-stu

You do realise that Class 1 DOESN'T cover the +E (i think it's E?) on your car license, right ?

Both my dad and our Artic driver at work when renewing their licenses queried it as it was removed and were told that Class 1 doesn't cover it car + trailer.

Mark_

thats bollocks......... I have my licence in front of me right now,
i passed my class 1 in 2007, entitlements shown on my licence are as follows

B car
BE car plus trailer
B1 luton(I think)
C class 2
CE Artic
C1E class2 + draw bar




just for the record i passed my car test in 2003



also DVLA cant remove entitlements without reason, this is why you should always photo copy your licence before you return to them as its the only proof you have

johnenright150rst

Right lads,
I've got a transit connect t230 which iirc weighs is a tad over 2 ton, I've made my own lightweight trailer. Weighs no more the 300 kgs plus my race car in at around 700kgs.

Now would I be legal?
Gonna do my trailer test anyway to save all the hastle just wondering realy.

When I've takes to a few different police, one vosa they said as long as the load all looks secure and not dangerous they won't stop you as they don't wanna be stuck with the van load plus trailer! This was a few years ago tho probley got stricter by now

Mark_

depends when you past your test, more than likely illegal as you can tow upto 750kg on the older car licence so you would be over that

tabetha

also DVLA cant remove entitlements without reason, this is why you should always photo copy your licence before you return to them as its the only proof you have[/QUOTE]

ha ha tell me another joke, that's the best one I've heard this year!!
Ever watch TV, listen to the radio, people HAVE had entitlements removed AND lost jobs AND had to resit the tests they already passed, it's the biggest scam DVLA are pulling at the moment, it is particularly the case with motorcylce entitlement, even the plod are not immune to dvla, a officer from norfolk was put on desk duty after dvla REMOVED his motorcycle entitlement, bit awkward when you're a bike cop, and a bike instructor, long story short dvla prosecuted but 9 months without correct license.
tabetha

JamesyRS

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Me & my brother work with vans and were both legal to tow trailers even though it aint on our license!! It goes by weights mostly. He had a accident and thought he was going to get hung but traffic officer explained it didnt matter as the trailer he had was matched by the weights in van etc so take this how you like but he explained you cant tow a trailer with a escort for example but could tow said trailer with a van. So dont know what is correct or if laws up here in scotland are different? Or maybe traffic officer thick as mince

simo2k2000

Passed car license in 2000. No trailer entitlement.

Passed class 1 in 2006 and got B+E added automatically.

Mark_

ha ha tell me another joke, that's the best one I've heard this year!!
Ever watch TV, listen to the radio, people HAVE had entitlements removed AND lost jobs AND had to resit the tests they already passed, it's the biggest scam DVLA are pulling at the moment, it is particularly the case with motorcylce entitlement, even the plod are not immune to dvla, a officer from norfolk was put on desk duty after dvla REMOVED his motorcycle entitlement, bit awkward when you're a bike cop, and a bike instructor, long story short dvla prosecuted but 9 months without correct license.
tabetha[/QUOTE]





this is why I said to photo copy the licence before you send it to them as they dont keep records of what entitlements you have held, they only hold records of the most upto date licence,

Im fully aware of issues with people getting their licences back with entitlements missing,
if you photo copied it before you sent it to them you would have proof that the entitlements WHERE there when you sent it to them

Mk1-stu

i'll tell them both to tell the dvla they're full of shit then..