Ginge

I'm assuming a few people know about this car from TOTB and at the pod, anyway he had an engine failure a while back and just got his new engine dyno'd.

704 bhp @ fly and 540lb ft still on pump fuel and no gas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4naUqUJsSRY

Ginge

vaughant

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sheesh!!!!!awesome stuff!!!!

KnoxyGtt

Fuck me, makes my 280hp let look like a lawn mower

clarke5700

nice what dyno is that on? looks like tat software

Si B

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Looks like a Dyno Dynamics screen shot to me

Ginge

Ok i can see the way it's going already, don't litter my thread with petty arguments about dyno dynamics v other rolling roads or any other shit you guys might have loaded in the keyboard infront of you.

Ginge

Si B

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Eh? Clarke asked what dyno, and I answered.



You on rag week or something?

Ginge

Did i say anything you said had any relevance to what i posted, are you on rag week, feeling a bit tetchy?

I made the comment i made because i know from experience there is going to be some this dyno is better than that, e-penis swinging and what some would call Lolz at dyno dynamics. I mearly sought to stop that before it happened...

Ginge

KnoxyGtt

What sort of time can be expected now?, he was in the 9's one 620 odds if im right?

Ginge

It 9.8 the last time i saw it on drags i think...

Ginge

AaronsKa

fecking mental power, cant wait to see it going down the strip again.

clarke5700

Sort it out mate!!! I only asked the sofwere as im looking into dynos atm!!! No need to start running your mouth off!!

Chip

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RS Tuning who specky works for have a Dyno Dynamics 4wd rolling road, and that is a screenshot from it.

Good result, very few of these engines making that sort of power

Should put his terminals up a good few mph!

scoooby slayer

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awesome stuff, is it a 2.0 ?

Chip

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Yes, well a few cc over the original 1998cc no doubt from a rebore, but its not a stroker or anything like that.

wilky

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what boost must that run

rs_turbo_tony

awesome power . wonder wot the top bhp is from a zetec turbo and wot is acheivable . oh and dyno looks like a v tec to me lol .................................................. .........speak and spell lol only playing guys.

scoooby slayer

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is it a c20let ?

Chip

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I would think that technically this time its a z20let block with a c20let head on it as I would imagine he has gone to the open deck block as its easier to re-enforce, as we both bust a closed deck one, and he'd be breaking it again at that power in no time im sure. Not spoken to him yet though since this one has been built, will let you know when I do if he doesnt post first (he comes on here sometimes anyway)

Miller 3

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Genuine question here and by no means a dis, but how come 500/500 can be got from a good spec'd turbo motor but when the power starts to creep up in to the 6's 7's and 8's ect the torque seems to die off?

Chip

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Because its typically made at more RPM when you start to get to bigger power, so the only way to have 700lbft would be to end up with 1000bhp.

BHP = Torque * RPM / 5252

So any car making peak torque after 5252rpm by definition has to have more power than torque, and even if you make peak torque before then, providing the torque doesnt drop off much further up the rev range, you'll still make more power.


500/500 just proves an engine doesnt want to rev IMHO!

JonnyBravo

Fair play specky, that's some big numbers

SiST

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What turbo is on this now?

specky tigra

thanks guys

we used an xe block this time with the standard crank out of the other engine... it made that power at 2.2bar of boost still on pump gas we do think it could do some more power but i just need to get out in the car and have some fun for abit.
we r going to put it on race fuel at some point and try turn it up alittle more

v man

very good power that mate fair play

and genuine question
how much harder is it gonna be to get off the line

with the extra power will you need to run wider slicks as id imagine your gonna need alot more grip now

JonnyBravo

Personally I'd of thought it would make little difference as your not running full power in the lower gears.

Chip

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Fingers crossed its a good one then!

They vary SO much its a bit of a lottery, although correct inspection can help (mine had a problem that would have been identifiable if I had known when I was building it what I know now!)

turnover

Chip i presume he will need the extra power for that front wheel drive series as i believe they all have to weigh 1000kg correct me if im wrong,as it seems cpl make the rules being the biggest sponser so there are restrictions on turbo trim and weight,as i dont think they want to be beaten by lighter cars lol,im my opinion if its front wheel drive it shouldnt matter what it weighs or what turbo you have ,fastest wins end of

JonnyBravo

Not sure about the weight ruling, seems a bit pointless if thats true.

turnover

i know someone whos entered mate and according to him thats the rules as he has had to get a smaller trim turbo in the gt42 range

JonnyBravo

Well Speckys car probably isn't that light anyway, I'd imagine its atleast in the 900's but still seems a crappy rule.

Chip

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I think richard b is also something to do with that series and a big minimum weight limit probably suits him too with his FTO.


TBH though if specky bolts lead weight as far forward and as low down as possible I would think he can make the weight work FAR better for him than the heavier cars can as it will be distributed so much better!
Wouldnt be surprised if it actually makes him quicker doing that now he has all that extra power to go with it (ie he'll have same power to weight ratio as he had with less weight and less power, but far better weight distribution)

turnover

i agree mate as i said aslong as its front wheel drive it shouldnt matter what it weighs or how much power it has,obviously worried about the compitition

SiZT

Bang on, but they're playing by Yank rules (IIRC)

http://outlawshootout.co.uk/rules.php <---Those are the rules

tabetha

Why 2L ?, would it not have been better to go for the 2.2 block to start with, or is that not allowed ?
tabetha

turnover

Chip i agree with you on that one,just depends how much it weighed originally and how much he has to add,just cant imagine them weighing all the entrants lol

Chip

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The 94.7mm crank reportedly suffers with really bad harmonic problems at big rpm.

Stu @ M Developments

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Amazing, well done to all involved.

TimC

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I know a bit irrelevant, but what make rods and pistons are you using?

RickyLee53

Great results, about 100hp more than last time?

Min weight is a real pain, there point is it keeps the cars more like road cars. But everybody knows they are all trailored there so why do they need full interiors from the b pillar forwards.

It actually used to be 1089kg!

All the newer/bigger cars are ok. As you say it'll be fine for speccy, he'll have to add around 50kg's or something and can put it far fowards.

I'd have to add 200kg's which would A, be very hard to physically fit it upfront, and B probably make me break a gearbox every run.