simo2k2000

Is it legal? Just interested that's all. Wish my Mundano was diesel so I could try it!

1223456

to be fair this thread is becoming more and more interesting, im just on hm customs website at the mo looking at the legal ins and outs, im not sad, just doing a night shift in work and waiting for some gel coat to flash off!!!

(but i would be probably be doing this if I was at home lol)

RWD_cossie_wil

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Totally legal, allowed to use 2500 litres per year before you have to declare tax payments. Of COURSE, you keep ALL the reciepts you collect . Plus if you manage to use 250 litres a month (yes I know there are 12 months in a year!) you are doing serious milage!

mk1turboestate

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well im glad iv done it, i wasnt going to bother because i didnt think it was worth the mither like most other people, but even putting in new neat veg oil iv saved over 25% so its gotta be worth it,

Psycho Warren

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yep as will says, totally legal upto the personal allowance.

It is wise to get a waste carriers license.

for less than 2500 litre production you do not need to register with HMRC nor technically do you need to provide formal records of your fuel production.

1223456

nice one, have you been for a run it it? does it smell of chips? does it make you hungry? any loss in power?

mk1turboestate

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why would you need a waste carriers licence if you use new oil?

mk1turboestate

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not been for a proper run in it yet, will do when i finish work tomorrow, seems to run exactly the same to be honest but will update after a good run,

worth a try tho mate, even with new ur saving around 40p a litre,
even lpg is getting more expensive

ajamesc

funny that as golden west (mc donnalds transport company ) run 100% in there dafs there all high pressure diesel engines it will lube the pump as its still oil! the trick is a tank heater system as it needs to be the same viscosity as diesel to run with out fault!

1223456

cheapest ive found veg oil sof ar is £1.10 per ltr :-(

mk1turboestate

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costco, i went, somebody said earlier in the thread aldi was 89p so mite have a look

1223456

this is an interesting read

http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/features/eco/biofuel.html

botters

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i havnt paid for diesel for about 6 months now and so long as my mate doesnt get busted doing what he is doing then ill probably never have to pay again lol

RWD_cossie_wil

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I am sure they do mate, it is just a case of having the right equiptment to run it safley, I would hate to tell someone to run it in thier E60 BMW and for it to kill it , hence I only advise what I know is safe , and if you kill a £300 mondeo it really dosn't matter that much.

fraser9764

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Its cheaper than engine oil too, why. Why not stick some veg in there then if is such a good lubricant
It may work in some but as said above, i wouldnt be trying it in an expensive modern commonrail diesel

ST24MK2

Can anyone tell me why, that when many moons ago i ran a M registration Ford Mondeo MK1 turbo diesel on it and i would put a £5 of diesel to every 20 litres of neat new veg oil and it would run fine, but when i did the same with my S reg, Mondeo MK2 turbo diesel within a few weeks the exhaust or something blew, the garage took it in for repair and said id been using cooking oil and it had gunked it up and the pressure of the diesel engine which is what caused the exhaust to blow, i think it was either the manifold, turbo or downpipe can't remember, i just rememeber heading to B&Q one morning on the motorway cruising at 70 and then the engine noise just tripled any ideas?

slider

Interesting stuff, I've got a 1998 1.9 polo non sdi so not common rail so in theory even if I went on the cautious side and ran say 50/50 it should be fine

graham c

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you can buy it ready done round head for 80 ltr guy in bamber bridge sells it

ajamesc

well as said golden west do in there dafs and have done for almost 5 years now with new trucks volvos and dafs they run 24 hours a day 7 days a week and some of there trucks have in the past got up to around 900.000 km i work for daf and they dont go wrong iver unless the drivers forget to switch the tank heater system on in the winter and daf still give warrenty on the fuel system!

R4N SS

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as above i ran my old mondeo mk2 td on on used 50/50 mix of veg oil and diesel. They have a mechanical fuel pump so can run it but i wouldnt run it straight as that asking for trouble. I even ran new veg oil from costco like you with no issues but always mixed in a bit of diesel too.

Then i ran my x reg Astra on processed bio-fuel for over 2 years with no issues (electronic fly-by-wire fuel pump). But the guy i got it off was a proper chmical engineer and really knows his stuff - never had any issues and i hardly ever went into the petrol station.

I think the bio that some of the people above are talking about has not been processed properly hence killing the vans. I had a hire van last year, Merc Sprinter and put bio in that even though the label said dont use bio didnt have any issues at all

You can run bio on the newer fly-by-wire fuel pumps as the toelrances are so fine.

PS> I get bio cheaper than that

Psycho Warren

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why would you want to be a fucking mug and pay retail at £1.10 a litre on the wrong fuel for your car??

When with a waste carriers license if your careful you can get the oil for sub 50p a litre as waste oil and when refined into biodiesel costs less than 80p a litre and has virtually none of the problems associated with running veg oil on its own.

mk1turboestate

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if i got 20 litres for £20.00 how are you working out that i paid £1.10 per litre??? do the maths!

if the engine runs perfect as it does i have to do nothing,

and comes in at 20p a litre more than processed

its an old smoker i use now and again and wanted to try it out

i have a bmw i wouldnt touch with it and an 08 transit i wouldnt either

bunnymofo

i use it in my escort van, thin it down with diesel and add a lil but of other oil, engine, gear, hydraulic any will do. i thinned down some ep95 and ran that before.

1223456

just been to the local tesco's and the cheapest veg oil was £1.33, never realised how expensive it was.

I wonder if its a lot cheaper buying in buld from say an asian or catering wholsaler???

bunnymofo

i normally get it from tesco, its 2.94 for 3 litres iirc.

1223456

The cheapest 3lts of tesco oil in Mold (north wales) tesco is £3.99 :-(

bunnymofo

last time i went in there was none on shelf, so i ask a lassie that works there, and said can i have 25 bottles from the back store. remember her looking at me funny. get even funnier looks when your putting it in in the car park. i normally mix it all up in a barrel at home then just pump it in as i kneed it.

1223456

just been to aldi then lidl,

aldi £1,19 per ltr and lidl was the same

I will try macro when i finish work

scoooby slayer

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you know an older diesel engine will run on it, i know of a 2004 astra that is well worn and is running up on its own engine oil lol

slammedorion

A V Reg tdi Passat be ok to run on veg oil.
Great thread!

zippyobrien

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My mate runs his 306 td on neat all year round. Puts a cap full of thinners in each tank ( says it helps with cold starg or some thing ) goes better on veg to.

mk1turboestate

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iv been for a good run in the transit today, if anything it ran better, nice and smooth, so i will be using it from now on,

i put it in neat, and bought it from costco,

Ade500

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Thats good enough for me. I'm in going to get some next time the tank is empty. W reg smiley transit, it's gotta go at the end of the year because of LEZ so why not.

Marvin_hagler_

makro queensferry eh dude !!,keep your eyes peeled at netto or farmfoods for the own brand shite as it all comes from the same place and can be much cheaper

for the tight arses lpg i noticed today was 77p a ltr.

RickyLee53

A mate had a 205, he ran it on anything. Old engine oil from work, veg oil etc etc. It did 50mph or something as well, was slow, and shit, but cost him about a fiver a week to get to work.

Psycho Warren

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still to me seems a lot of hassle to save a few quid a tank. I wonder how the MPG is? its supposed to be less on veg oil.

I still think your better off going down the waste veg oil route if you want to do it long term and make decent savings.

I cant see how the savings on plain new veg oil is really worth it unless your doing mega miles saving a thousand or more a year compared to normal diesel.

RWD_cossie_wil

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My mondeo always seemed about the same on veg oil, and it's no major hassle buying 200litres at the same time, 10x20 litre drums, just stick the spare in the garage, and saves you nearly 40p a litre, which is about a 30-35% saving @£1 a litre for veg vs £1.40 for diesel, give or take a few p either way And it FEELS so good not paying all that fucking tax and lining the robbing oil companys pockets .. Fight the man! I used to go through about £300 a month in fuel, which means I save over £1000 a year or £100 a month running on veg!

1223456

My friend has a w reg citroen berlingo and has been running his on veg oil for 2 days now and it is running like a dream so far so he tells me. He also sent me these prices for 20ltrs:

Makro


costco

mk1turboestate

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the costco one is the pne i got!

works a treat, zero vat aswell so not payin the goverment

Glenn_

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Bargain.