I want some ideas on engine choice for a Triumph Herald...
The car will hopefuly be my track/fast road car and I'm looking for something a bit different. Powerwise I'd like around 150-170bhp. I've seen a 100e with a cvh turbo engine and I like the thought of the same in the Triumph. I don't have a massive budget but I'm in no hurry so can save for something decent.

So ideas/ thoughts please!

 

2.0ltr Zetec on throttle bodies? A good set up would be running around your preference, I've seen some running 190+ too so there's room for more. Talking of room, not sure how much space is in the bay so that could potentially be an issue.

Something different like a B series Honda engine? Or even K20 out the DC5 Integra would be awesome.

Ben.

 

Vauxhal red top and omega box

 

Plenty of room really, people have stuck v8's in them before! I like the idea of a honda engine but running them rwd could be difficult? Zetec is too obvious

 

S2000 engine and box, on throttle bodies and a decent ecu, would sound absolutely mental

 

That's a good idea, F20 I think it is out S2000, although I can't imagine they're as commonplace as the B series.

If you want something different, what about a BDT-E? Or N/A Cossie!

 

If he wanted 250bhp I would agree on the S2000 engine, but way too much money when you dont want big power anyway.

Vauxhall XE IMHO

 

S2000 would be awesome but as Chip said it would be overkill for what I want. Xe would be good... BDT-E or NA cossie would be the tits lol.

 

Missed the 150-170 bit and got carried away, would have to agree with chip then, C20XE for me

 

Ha ha! It's easy to get carried away when thinking of obscure engine swaps. Don't want mad power otherwise everything on the car will have to completely change and then I may aswell have started with a faster more capable car.

 

The Omega V6 engine and box is another cheap option if the bay is as big as you say, and they dont weight a great deal more than the XE, 20kg or something IIRC

 

MX5 engine and box small light and cheap

 

MX5 cheap small and light

 

How easy is the management on those to put into another car?
Ive never tried.


I know the C20XE and Early V6 vauxhall engines for example can be wired in easily in a few mins, but the later vauxhall engines cant, is it the same with the mx5 that there is a cutoff point at which they start to become harder to intergate into a different car?

 

Like both of those ideas... V6 wins on noise but mx5 makes a lot of sense.

 

NOt sure on newer ones pre 98 ones simple enough to split looms and wire up only couple lives fuel pump and earths as far as can remember

 

MX5 sounds like a good option then if its that easy to go in, they certainly drive nicely etc

Only slight issue might be getting the power though, they are quite a way short of 170 standard IIRC (if someone says 150-170 they mean 170 or more normally really, lol)

 

160 bhp will do me! Around 200bhp/ton is my aim.

 

What about a BMC B series(1.8) on 45's ?, will be more classic as well that way, just an idea, be a shame to spoil a classic with other choices mentioned imo.
tabetha

 

What about a Vitesse engine, surely this is fairly straightforward to fit seen as it was fitted to the same car? Obviously it dosen't have the power you want natively.

Martin

 

If I did that I could just pinch the engine from my MGB GT lol. I'd love to put in a tweaked Dolly Sprint engine in it. The car is nothing special really so not too worried about mixing it up a bit

 

Not through the standard independant rear end??

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A vitesse engine is available to me, may look into what can be done power-wise...

 

you'd spend a fortune trying to tune one of these and they'll never make great power due to 5 port head weigh a ton and dont like to rev and sound shit.

 

Not standard rear no! I want to live! Lol

 

The B engine sounds good had a 1.8 done the head with std cam an carbs you get about 90 bhp with boreing to 1.9 -1950 good cam an 45s or big SUs should be about the 150 mark maybe more. ho and sorry cannot agree to the revs I had cooper 998 A type tuned B type and rover v8 all rev very well just need to build them right.

 

That may be a plan for my MG when I refresh it later on...

 

Do it ! it will shock you how much an engine can change its character an power! what years your B ?

 

Hang on did I just rear bdt-e? As in 25 grands worth of bdt-e

K20 Honda engine are big bucks too

You could get a b18 series engine out of a dc2 reasonable 192bhp

But fitting It would be fun, something that fits direct to the gearbox would be nice

 

1971 mate My daily driver currently

 

to build em right starts to cost serious bucks trust me ive worked on mini's minors, migets and had few mgb's much cheaper and more reliable go for newer lighter engine.
another option maybe toyota 4age or 20v black top

 

There was a Triumph Vitesse featured in PPC magazine fitted with a Triumph Stag 3 litre V8, keeping it all in the family.

 

One can dream...

 

Saw the Vitesse in PPC, as much as I'd love a v8 not really the style of engine I'm after, a revvy 4 pot makes most sense so the 4age could work and hs been done in Anglias/ Cortinas etc.

 

NIce looking mgb there much better then my old rolly polly rubber bumper piece of crap.
dont forget other thing with likes of 4age engines theyre much lighter and lower than old engines so car should handle better 2

 

Cheers! Looks better than it is as it's just been washed lol. Paint is shocking but the car is solid as a rock and most importantly tax exempt!!

That's what I want really, lightweight and revvy. Can always build my MG with something a little lazier as that would suit the GT style.

Got a problem with too many projects though, also have a 23k 1 owner Mk1 Metro and a Rover 420GSi estate with a 220 turbo engine in... It wasn't intentional to end up with all these BL/Rover related vehicles...

 

nice B ran an 67 MG-B-GT with a v8 for six years in all weather they can make a very good daily drive after all they were modern cars once !

 

You must really love hardship with all them

 

Haha! The only one to give me trouble has been the Rover, give you one guess what's wrong with it, but the troubles stem from the average quality of the engine conversion. It's currently being sorted and will be back and surprising a few VXRs and STs again soon

The Metro and MGB always start first time in all weathers and not started using the Triumph

 

Had a think... what about an f7p/ f7r engine from a Clio/ Megane? Attached to a Volvo gearbox as seen in many 340s? I know they have rear mounted gearboxes but must be possible to fit somehow?