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19-05-2011, 11:41 AM
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What engine?
I want some ideas on engine choice for a Triumph Herald...
The car will hopefuly be my track/fast road car and I'm looking for something a bit different. Powerwise I'd like around 150-170bhp. I've seen a 100e with a cvh turbo engine and I like the thought of the same in the Triumph. I don't have a massive budget but I'm in no hurry so can save for something decent.
So ideas/ thoughts please!
The car will hopefuly be my track/fast road car and I'm looking for something a bit different. Powerwise I'd like around 150-170bhp. I've seen a 100e with a cvh turbo engine and I like the thought of the same in the Triumph. I don't have a massive budget but I'm in no hurry so can save for something decent.
So ideas/ thoughts please!
19-05-2011, 12:22 PM
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2.0ltr Zetec on throttle bodies? A good set up would be running around your preference, I've seen some running 190+ too so there's room for more. Talking of room, not sure how much space is in the bay so that could potentially be an issue.
Something different like a B series Honda engine? Or even K20 out the DC5 Integra would be awesome.
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Something different like a B series Honda engine? Or even K20 out the DC5 Integra would be awesome.
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19-05-2011, 12:30 PM
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2.0ltr Zetec on throttle bodies? A good set up would be running around your preference, I've seen some running 190+ too so there's room for more. Talking of room, not sure how much space is in the bay so that could potentially be an issue.
Something different like a B series Honda engine? Or even K20 out the DC5 Integra would be awesome.
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Something different like a B series Honda engine? Or even K20 out the DC5 Integra would be awesome.
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19-05-2011, 12:36 PM
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That's a good idea, F20 I think it is out S2000, although I can't imagine they're as commonplace as the B series.
If you want something different, what about a BDT-E? Or N/A Cossie!
If you want something different, what about a BDT-E? Or N/A Cossie!
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S2000 would be awesome but as Chip said it would be overkill for what I want. Xe would be good... BDT-E or NA cossie would be the tits lol.
19-05-2011, 12:53 PM
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Ha ha! It's easy to get carried away when thinking of obscure engine swaps. Don't want mad power otherwise everything on the car will have to completely change and then I may aswell have started with a faster more capable car.
19-05-2011, 01:09 PM
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How easy is the management on those to put into another car?
Ive never tried.
I know the C20XE and Early V6 vauxhall engines for example can be wired in easily in a few mins, but the later vauxhall engines cant, is it the same with the mx5 that there is a cutoff point at which they start to become harder to intergate into a different car?
Ive never tried.
I know the C20XE and Early V6 vauxhall engines for example can be wired in easily in a few mins, but the later vauxhall engines cant, is it the same with the mx5 that there is a cutoff point at which they start to become harder to intergate into a different car?
19-05-2011, 01:13 PM
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How easy is the management on those to put into another car?
Ive never tried.
I know the C20XE and Early V6 vauxhall engines for example can be wired in easily in a few mins, but the later vauxhall engines cant, is it the same with the mx5 that there is a cutoff point at which they start to become harder to intergate into a different car?
Ive never tried.
I know the C20XE and Early V6 vauxhall engines for example can be wired in easily in a few mins, but the later vauxhall engines cant, is it the same with the mx5 that there is a cutoff point at which they start to become harder to intergate into a different car?
19-05-2011, 01:15 PM
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MX5 sounds like a good option then if its that easy to go in, they certainly drive nicely etc
Only slight issue might be getting the power though, they are quite a way short of 170 standard IIRC (if someone says 150-170 they mean 170 or more normally really, lol)
Only slight issue might be getting the power though, they are quite a way short of 170 standard IIRC (if someone says 150-170 they mean 170 or more normally really, lol)
20-05-2011, 09:42 PM
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What about a BMC B series(1.8) on 45's ?, will be more classic as well that way, just an idea, be a shame to spoil a classic with other choices mentioned imo.
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20-05-2011, 09:56 PM
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you'd spend a fortune trying to tune one of these and they'll never make great power due to 5 port head weigh a ton and dont like to rev and sound shit.
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The B engine sounds good had a 1.8 done the head with std cam an carbs you get about 90 bhp with boreing to 1.9 -1950 good cam an 45s or big SUs should be about the 150 mark maybe more. ho and sorry cannot agree to the revs I had cooper 998 A type tuned B type and rover v8 all rev very well just need to build them right.
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20-05-2011, 10:20 PM
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The B engine sounds good had a 1.8 done the head with std cam an carbs you get about 90 bhp with boreing to 1.9 -1950 good cam an 45s or big SUs should be about the 150 mark maybe more. ho and sorry cannot agree to the revs I had cooper 998 A type tuned B type and rover v8 all rev very well just need to build them right.
another option maybe toyota 4age or 20v black top
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Saw the Vitesse in PPC, as much as I'd love a v8 not really the style of engine I'm after, a revvy 4 pot makes most sense so the 4age could work and hs been done in Anglias/ Cortinas etc.
20-05-2011, 10:35 PM
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NIce looking mgb there much better then my old rolly polly rubber bumper piece of crap.
dont forget other thing with likes of 4age engines theyre much lighter and lower than old engines so car should handle better 2
dont forget other thing with likes of 4age engines theyre much lighter and lower than old engines so car should handle better 2
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That's what I want really, lightweight and revvy. Can always build my MG with something a little lazier as that would suit the GT style.
Got a problem with too many projects though, also have a 23k 1 owner Mk1 Metro and a Rover 420GSi estate with a 220 turbo engine in... It wasn't intentional to end up with all these BL/Rover related vehicles...
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20-05-2011, 10:50 PM
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Cheers! Looks better than it is as it's just been washed lol. Paint is shocking but the car is solid as a rock and most importantly tax exempt!!
That's what I want really, lightweight and revvy. Can always build my MG with something a little lazier as that would suit the GT style.
Got a problem with too many projects though, also have a 23k 1 owner Mk1 Metro and a Rover 420GSi estate with a 220 turbo engine in... It wasn't intentional to end up with all these BL/Rover related vehicles...
That's what I want really, lightweight and revvy. Can always build my MG with something a little lazier as that would suit the GT style.
Got a problem with too many projects though, also have a 23k 1 owner Mk1 Metro and a Rover 420GSi estate with a 220 turbo engine in... It wasn't intentional to end up with all these BL/Rover related vehicles...
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Haha! The only one to give me trouble has been the Rover, give you one guess what's wrong with it, but the troubles stem from the average quality of the engine conversion. It's currently being sorted and will be back and surprising a few VXRs and STs again soon
The Metro and MGB always start first time in all weathers and not started using the Triumph
The Metro and MGB always start first time in all weathers and not started using the Triumph
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Had a think... what about an f7p/ f7r engine from a Clio/ Megane? Attached to a Volvo gearbox as seen in many 340s? I know they have rear mounted gearboxes but must be possible to fit somehow?
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