How much to build a 650bhp to 700bhp engine?
08-02-2005, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pugo
surely the cost is directly proportional to the amount of time your engine will last!
08-02-2005, 07:42 PM
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depends if they grossly overcharging for parts etc which is what many people do
its called cossie tax IIRC
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08-02-2005, 07:57 PM
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Mine will be finished, and mine is not being built for any records, to prove anyone wrong, to make up for anything else, its being built because!
I TRUELY LOVE DOING IT!
If i could work doing this i would!
08-02-2005, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SPADGE
2 things i predict
1 - Phil will never finish this engine so its pointless talking about it
2 - Ditto for Ryan and his car
1 - Phil will never finish this engine so its pointless talking about it
2 - Ditto for Ryan and his car
SPADGE, Dont agree with No 2 but you forgot.....
3- Phil will fall out with Mark after being offered good advice and help.
08-02-2005, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SPADGE
2 things i predict
1 - Phil will never finish this engine so its pointless talking about it
2 - Ditto for Ryan and his car
1 - Phil will never finish this engine so its pointless talking about it
2 - Ditto for Ryan and his car
SPADGE, Dont agree with No 2 but you forgot.....
3- Phil will fall out with Mark after being offered good advice and help.
after all all he is after is the kind of service he provides.
Mark
08-02-2005, 08:21 PM
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madevelopments,
I am sure you will be the perfect supplier Mark.
My point was that whilst Phil was using my ECU, he did NOT have any issues
with it or me until he decided to jump on the bandwagon of putting me down.
Also, as you know Karl gave him much advice and help but we both got
the sharp end of Phils temper.
I do hope things do work out with you and Phils relationship but time will tell
I am sure you will be the perfect supplier Mark.
My point was that whilst Phil was using my ECU, he did NOT have any issues
with it or me until he decided to jump on the bandwagon of putting me down.
Also, as you know Karl gave him much advice and help but we both got
the sharp end of Phils temper.
I do hope things do work out with you and Phils relationship but time will tell
08-02-2005, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SPADGE
2 things i predict
1 - Phil will never finish this engine so its pointless talking about it
2 - Ditto for Ryan and his car
1 - Phil will never finish this engine so its pointless talking about it
2 - Ditto for Ryan and his car
08-02-2005, 09:57 PM
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I could oversee a fully specced 700bhp YB for Ł17k. This would include ALL the best parts (custom crank (the same that Mark uses
), rods, pistons, Nikasel linered block, Nick Waples head etc etc. Could do it cheaper for 650bhp (where I think you could get away with the standard unlined block).
It's not rocket science, it's just about knowing the correct ingredients.
600bhp could be done for Ł10-11k if you were prepared to compromise on some of the items (standard crank and rods).
All the above includes fully dynoed but NOT installed in the car, so doesn't include some ancilliaries (eg suitable intercooler etc).
I could oversee a fully specced 700bhp YB for Ł17k. This would include ALL the best parts (custom crank (the same that Mark uses
), rods, pistons, Nikasel linered block, Nick Waples head etc etc. Could do it cheaper for 650bhp (where I think you could get away with the standard unlined block).It's not rocket science, it's just about knowing the correct ingredients.
600bhp could be done for Ł10-11k if you were prepared to compromise on some of the items (standard crank and rods).
All the above includes fully dynoed but NOT installed in the car, so doesn't include some ancilliaries (eg suitable intercooler etc).
08-02-2005, 10:04 PM
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[quote="Mike Rainbird"]Phil,
I could oversee a fully specced 700bhp YB for Ł17k. This would include ALL the best parts (custom crank (the same that Mark uses),
Mike so you THINK you use the same crank
Mark
I could oversee a fully specced 700bhp YB for Ł17k. This would include ALL the best parts (custom crank (the same that Mark uses
), Mike so you THINK you use the same crank
Mark
08-02-2005, 11:29 PM
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so does anyone know what the scandinavians would charge then?? VERY interested to know what Jenspeed would charge
Mike, you make me laugh. doesnt include a few ancillaries, intercooler, management, turbo, injectors, mapping blah blah....... that'll be 30k then
Mike, you make me laugh. doesnt include a few ancillaries, intercooler, management, turbo, injectors, mapping blah blah....... that'll be 30k then
09-02-2005, 12:49 PM
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Don't think Jenspeed will give you a reply...
Not because he don't want to, but the impression i have is that you have to contact him in person and then you give him your requests for the engine and the he will give you the bill...
Not exactly how he does it but you get the idea...
And i don't think you wanna know prices for such a build i Norway..
The prices on a lot of engineparts well, most parts) are about twice the price as in UK....
Not because he don't want to, but the impression i have is that you have to contact him in person and then you give him your requests for the engine and the he will give you the bill...
Not exactly how he does it but you get the idea...
And i don't think you wanna know prices for such a build i Norway..
The prices on a lot of engineparts well, most parts) are about twice the price as in UK....
09-02-2005, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Seems to me most people do this to say they have the fastest or most powerful cossie, not genuinley for the fun or performance.
Bit sad when you think about it.
Bit sad when you think about it.
I mean seriously who here can actually drive a 550HP car so far beyond its limits to warrant an extra 150HP
I bet there isnt anyone , and if there is your in the wrong profession ............ you should be having tussles with the likes of Pat Doran etc in rallycross
09-02-2005, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RANJ
and bought a fookin 1000hp lemon
I was given the chance to make a dream reality
( although thats not how it ended up sadly )I didnt wake up one day and think I know Ill have a 1000HP
09-02-2005, 03:39 PM
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All i will say is if my engine lasts one top speed run it will have acheived its goal...infact if anyone knew the actual spec youd be all shaking your heads in your usaul blinkered way...the future is bright the future is gonna be MAD all the way
One thing is i am not afraid to try the methods many tunersare scared to try because the "book" says it wont work...lets see i am the guniea pig But its all irrelevant anyway as i will never let it out as it may cause an egg shortage or it may end in smoke and a big fire 
Not sure when it will be finished as i am having to wait on parts once all here then build will commence.
Spadge you only say it wont happen cause you dont want it too...but like the shit brace said who cares its hardly a big bhp mota anyone can do it...
From me..FUCKING ROFL
One thing is i am not afraid to try the methods many tunersare scared to try because the "book" says it wont work...lets see i am the guniea pig
But its all irrelevant anyway as i will never let it out as it may cause an egg shortage or it may end in smoke and a big fire Not sure when it will be finished as i am having to wait on parts once all here then build will commence.
Spadge you only say it wont happen cause you dont want it too...but like the shit brace said
who cares its hardly a big bhp mota anyone can do it...From me..FUCKING ROFL
09-02-2005, 04:17 PM
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infact if anyone knew the actual spec youd be all shaking your heads in your usaul blinkered way
As i am aware that 3000 proffesionals at the top of there field designed and built the titanic, but 1 farmer who was hearing voices in his head built the ARK
remember evolution only continues if somebody has the balls to try something different
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09-02-2005, 04:27 PM
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............
As i am aware that 3000 proffesionals at the top of there field designed and built the titanic, but 1 farmer who was hearing voices in his head built the ARK
Fookin brilliant....
Fookin brilliant....
09-02-2005, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Seems to me most people do this to say they have the fastest or most powerful cossie, not genuinley for the fun or performance.
Bit sad when you think about it.
Bit sad when you think about it.
I mean seriously who here can actually drive a 550HP car so far beyond its limits to warrant an extra 150HP
I bet there isnt anyone , and if there is your in the wrong profession ............ you should be having tussles with the likes of Pat Doran etc in rallycross
Well ive had 330bhp , 400, 500, 570 & 650bhp Cossie engines on the road & believe me i use it, not interested in Topspeed but the accleration is the biggest adrenallin rush ive experienced. Have 500bhp as low boost & rarely use it because 650bhp is so addictive. I admit without all of the car being able to handle the Power it would be a waste of time, but if you have grip its incredible fun.
Im not interested in Dyno figures, only how it performs, my new conversion will have more Power im informed but it wont go on the Dyno, Brunters will say if its 700+.
Rod
09-02-2005, 04:46 PM
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shit brace , well you can be phul instead of phil , as in phul of piss and wind
rod, youre just being greedy and i think you are going for more power because you are scared that phil is building a monster that will beat you
dont worry rod, by the time the hopeless git actually gets that car to turn a wheel in anger you'll probably be getting your telegram from her majesty
, well you can be phul instead of phil , as in phul of piss and wind rod, youre just being greedy and i think you are going for more power because you are scared that phil is building a monster that will beat you
dont worry rod, by the time the hopeless git actually gets that car to turn a wheel in anger you'll probably be getting your telegram from her majesty
09-02-2005, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Smit
Deano - u not got the lemon anymore?
And its been expained countless times too.
He sold it to money Tim, the Cowardly Lion
to fund a business venture, and now rides a big gay bike in his leathers
09-02-2005, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JAP CRAP
Mike, you make me laugh. doesnt include a few ancillaries, intercooler, management, turbo, injectors, mapping blah blah....... that'll be 30k then
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