dickycox

one simple question which one bmw m3 e46 or focus rs mk2.

It's Czech Mate

Hi Dick Cock, its totally your choice depending if you want a pretty new FWD powerhouse or an older rwd sport saloon.

You wont buy either tho, you'll just bleat on putting up repetitive pointless threads about them and various other cars you wont buy for another 5+ years

R5FORD

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focus rs mk2

RS 5tu

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both would make great cars to be fair.

v man

m3 all day long

the focus rs mk2 is nice but it aint got the german build quality
and its still a plastic shitty ford that will drop fast like the mk1 rs

scoooby slayer

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i actually just lol and spat my drink out

R5FORD

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tbh the m3 has the plastic feeling aswel its nothing special. And if you buy a abused one be prepared to spend some serious dolla sorting it out

v man

yeh i can totally agree with that

but a good well speced m3 is a super fantastic car to look at and drive

and if you compair every component from each car the m3 will always come out on top

the m devision is a little more advanced than fords rs

but as its a ford forum then the focus will always get the thumbs up as do the 20+ year old sierras lol

R5FORD

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I know just how good the m3 is mate and how good the frs is and imo the frs is a better car im not saying the M3 is a bad car as its totally awesome but my personally take my frs over the m3

Rsmat

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It all depends what he wants tho as both are total different cars... I'd probably have the M3... As I bought a mk2 FRS brand new... It's a totally wicked car with plenty of power on tap and handled well...however after a yeAr of ownership I sold it to buy a concourse 3dr and a mk1 FRS ...

Lambchop

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Have you considered an evo?

dickycox

Well hello my man how are you,iv been totering around in a st 24 for the last 2 years bought my missis a new s max,the time is getting close for a change ha ha take it easy mate.

v man

agreed

its all down to what you want from a car

but german build quality is second to none

martysmartie

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LOL yes so much so that the contemporary M3 was beaten by the Cosworth in every single respect, along with all other rivals!

Tbh you can't really compare the two, E46 M3 is comparable to MK1 FRS not the MK2 imo in terms of value, E46 is nothing special, affordable cars now, don't get me wrong this isn't to say they are not good cars, but the MK2 and E46 and in two completley different price brackets, even for a second hand one I should think. So the thing about Ford depreciation is the complete opposite to what your saying as they are only going to appreciate in price more so then they already have!

Martin

Glenn_

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Why dont you go and test drive both cars then YOU can make the decision.

jackfrs

not saying the E46 aint a good motor and defo not saying the frs is a better car as there both wicked in differant ways but

DONT beleave all the hype about BMW's build quality because its just not true imho, my parent's have had 2 x E46's from new and the bodywork need's something to be desired, after 4 yrs rust blisters was apearing over most panels and the front wings were terible, he went to 2 differant bodyshops to get them painted before selling on and was told that there prone to this, these are both car's that's never been accident damaged and always looked after and also keeped garaged, saying this i actually luv the M3,

cant coment on the mk2 frs as i know nothing about them as it's a mk1 i have and will defo be keeping for a while yet,

cheer's jack

v man

your right lol they cant be compaired

the m3 is by far a better car than a ford focus be it a rs or not lol

im a massive ford fan but also a m powered car

there are guys out there running 600+ bhp on standard engines

and over 1200 on worked engines lol

the focus rs is a good car dont get me wrong on that and i would have one

there was a thread a little while ago with the same thing about sierra cosworths being better than an m3

now come on thats just daft

but like i said silly asking these questions on a ford based web site

Rsmat

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So have you owned a m3 or FRs..?

v man

yep sure have

Rsmat

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So I take it you've owned a mk2 FRS.....and a lovly m3 to compare it too.... Unfortunatly I've not owned a e46 m3.... But I've drove plenty and tbh the FRS beats it hands down in performance and quality...

v man

ive not owned a mk2 focus rs no

but people are different and they like different things

v man

and also the e46 is alot older than the mk2 focus rs

but compair both cars of the same age then the focus dont come anywhere near the same league of car to the new m3

Rsmat

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The lad asked for opinions on the e46 m3 and mk2 frs...Not a newer m3 tho...

martysmartie

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Just because it has a supposedly "Prestige" badge at the front dosen't account for nothing, for example just look at the chronic wheel cracking failures they had as of late.

I never driven one or anything but for sure they SHOULD be better built etc, thats what you pay for, thats the whole thing about Fast Fords, performance that is avaliable at a reasonable price in comparison to such rivals.

As to the M3 well that is FACT not opinion, faster, bigger etc and better as an all round car, this was true with all other rivals as well, by this of course I am talking about the E30, trying to compare a Cosworth to something like the E46 with such a huge age gap it's just daft on a car that is so much further technologically advanced!

I do remember that thread but I think it was more along the lines of this one what should I buy, and I personally (and have) got the Cosworth over an M3, I am in no way biased and like various cars like the M3, especially the new E9x .

Martin

jackfrs

Exactly, This is the 2 he wanted to know about and not a newer M3 or older RS so they can be compaired to see what suits him

Nick.W

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Even though they are worlds and years apart and current value aside I would rather have the M3 anyday.Surely a more fair comparison would be the Mk2 FRS and the E92 M3 in terms of cost and age as they are very similer at the moment.

Not driven a Mk2 FRS but driven a friends E46 M3 and loved it. Repair bills would worry me on the M3 though

Lambchop

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You set yourself up for these jokes really eh?

Come on you need to man up and go buy one and enjoy it. You are comparing 2 very different cars there and I guess different budgets.

I'm not sure what FRS prices are now or even what the latest E36 is worth(06 plate I think?)

I have been from my FRS to an Evo 8 FQ330 and now have an E46 M3.

E46 is a fantastic car in every way. I can't fault mine at all.

It depends what you need a car for and what you want. 2 different beasts.

Matt Baxter

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I like both cars to look at and drive, the focus has crap plastics and the bm on the whole isnt as well made as it should be(rusting already) for the money they were new, but saying that they are both very good motors. just buy both and be done with it

Porkie

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Deja vu anyone?

RichardPON

Spot on!

Same post by same author over on the M3 site....

S3an

an E46 M3 wings are aluminium as well as other panels so cant really say they are rust buckets.

gavt123

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m3 all day but thats just me i personally dont like the way the mk2 frs looks