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Old May 2, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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must of been for sale for at least a year and a half i remember it used to be at 17k and it did not sell so now its at 24k urm hello



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Old May 2, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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Its FordSportJay's old one off here, its on the hit list aswel
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Old May 2, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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Is it a genuine RS500?

If it is then surely that's realistic money for it?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 05:04 PM
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I think it has history but theirs a lot of car for the money there - bet you could get it a few G's cheaper too
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think its been reshelled?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 05:39 PM
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looks fat as you like either way
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
think its been reshelled?

What makes you say that ?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
What makes you say that ?
When jay had it paul, he said something to the effect of it had been reshelled, or was a write off at some point. cant remember off the top of my head, but there was defo something
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Fiddy
When jay had it paul, he said something to the effect of it had been reshelled, or was a write off at some point. cant remember off the top of my head, but there was defo something
It is on the hit list , but im sure its the correct shell
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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What's the hit list sorry to be thick
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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So it's been pranged, cat d or c??
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:28 PM
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Mines is a cat d, makes no odds at all caus I'll never sell mines but cat c could be anything all it means is the insurance was involved at some point to make a repair, at least I think that's what it is !
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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my m8 bought an audi quattro of that guy/garage all type cars sales, he had cars stored in all sorts of wierd places on streets and even in some allotments!!
the audi was a shed and my m8 had so far spent about 8k trying to get it put right.the car had been in a shunt and poorly repaired the front beam was still bent (now removed and fixed)
To be fair he did have some nice looking stock most of his cars were enthusiasts cars like quattros 2.8 capri's etc oh and that 500 it was for sale 2 years ago when he bought the audi!

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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
So it's been pranged, cat d or c??
As far as i can remember yes, its on the list for something
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Mines is a cat d, makes no odds at all caus I'll never sell mines but cat c could be anything all it means is the insurance was involved at some point to make a repair, at least I think that's what it is !
no cat D is unecomical to repair (in the opinion of the assesor)
Cat C is unecomical to repair (in the opinion of the assesor) but the damage is more extensive than a cat C

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Not a nice one IMO
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by the youth
no cat D is unecomical to repair (in the opinion of the assesor)
Cat C is unecomical to repair (in the opinion of the assesor) but the damage is more extensive than a cat C

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Cat C means structural damage ( bent chassie etc )
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Cat C means structural damage ( bent chassie etc )
maybe it should be classed as that but the insurance companys just class them as they please nowadays

as when i worked for copart there would be cars with as little as a broken bumper or attempted theft classed as a cat C

yet they,d be a brand new car rolled and would be a cat D they catagorise them what will make the most money imo
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by fordrs2005
maybe it should be classed as that but the insurance companys just class them as they please nowadays

as when i worked for copart there would be cars with as little as a broken bumper or attempted theft classed as a cat C

yet they,d be a brand new car rolled and would be a cat D they catagorise them what will make the most money imo

Times have changed mate , I quess as you say they do what they feel now rather than what they are supposed to do
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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when i bought the car i hpi'd it and it was registered stolen recovered.

it was clear that the car had had some repairs in certain areas but it was a cheap,standard rs500 with sensible miles.

upon purchase and proper inspection it turned out that the floor number(correctly stamped) had been cut out of another shell and placed in place under the carpet in a way you couldnt really tell without removing the carpet.
more inspections found a repair(half decent) in the n/s/f and a pillar section.
even more inspections founs the boot floor had been tack welded in place so that was sorted out.
at the end of the day it is an rs500(if he has kept the original rs500 bottom end as the big power engine is on a 200 block),so it will always have value,but will always be bottom end rs500 money-whatever that is.......sadly it seems to have gained full service history that it didnt have when i owned it-unless it did turn up from the past,but i couldnt find it when i had it.
so,it has been re-shelled and that shell has been damaged/repaired.
it was a very quick car though!
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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thats shed some light on the situation and condition of the car lol

sounds like a minter lol

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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Cat C means structural damage ( bent chassie etc )
Paul, I just rounded it up to more extensive than D but yes it does usually mean it's not for a diyer at home like the majority of D's are. Also the age of the car has a factor in what it's classed as

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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
when i bought the car i hpi'd it and it was registered stolen recovered.

it was clear that the car had had some repairs in certain areas but it was a cheap,standard rs500 with sensible miles.

upon purchase and proper inspection it turned out that the floor number(correctly stamped) had been cut out of another shell and placed in place under the carpet in a way you couldnt really tell without removing the carpet.
more inspections found a repair(half decent) in the n/s/f and a pillar section.
even more inspections founs the boot floor had been tack welded in place so that was sorted out.
at the end of the day it is an rs500(if he has kept the original rs500 bottom end as the big power engine is on a 200 block),so it will always have value,but will always be bottom end rs500 money-whatever that is.......sadly it seems to have gained full service history that it didnt have when i owned it-unless it did turn up from the past,but i couldnt find it when i had it.
so,it has been re-shelled and that shell has been damaged/repaired.
it was a very quick car though!
Thats why it looked the correct shell when i looked at it then as i knew the stamps were correct but i didnt lift the carpet

I looked at this car years ago before you bought it jay and noticed it had quite a bit of work in its life
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Cat C means structural damage ( bent chassie etc )
i don't think it does Paul as i have had a few cars on cat c that have just been bonnet and front bumpers but loww in value.

the whole cat system is crap to be honest as if you have a car that is 1 year old and it has a smash which needs new wings, bonnet , jigging etc it will not appear on the list due to its value, but have a smaller samsh in an older car and they cat it so to be honest the cat sysytem doesn't really mean much.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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i don't think it does Paul as i have had a few cars on cat c that have just been bonnet and front bumpers but loww in value.

the whole cat system is crap to be honest as if you have a car that is 1 year old and it has a smash which needs new wings, bonnet , jigging etc it will not appear on the list due to its value, but have a smaller samsh in an older car and they cat it so to be honest the cat sysytem doesn't really mean much.
As said above , it used to be mate , but seems they have changed how they list them now
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but,at the end of the day......

its an rs500. there should be a genuine rs500 bottom end to go with the car along with the well specced 200 block engine.
the shell is solid,the interior is nice and clean.
i spent a lot of money on that car and it had many new parts.

as i said its a bottom end money rs500..........Ł14-15k?or maybe more-it is a rare car,regardless of wether its been bumped/stolen/reshelled.
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Cat D is 'uneconomical to repair' which is when it's over 60% of the car's value (or thereabouts). Often issued against stolen recovered cars. The car doesn't need a VIC check to go back on the road.

Cat C is where the cost of repair is greater than the value of the vehicle (using main dealer new parts). As with Cat D the car is reparable, but it can't be used on the road until a VIC check has been passed.
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
but,at the end of the day......

its an rs500. there should be a genuine rs500 bottom end to go with the car along with the well specced 200 block engine.
the shell is solid,the interior is nice and clean.
i spent a lot of money on that car and it had many new parts.

as i said its a bottom end money rs500..........Ł14-15k?or maybe more-it is a rare car,regardless of wether its been bumped/stolen/reshelled.
But realistically who is going to spend 15k on a old ropey sierra? If you want an rs500 you want a minter, if not you'd just buy a mint 3 door for 15k imo
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Cat D is 'uneconomical to repair' which is when it's over 60% of the car's value (or thereabouts). Often issued against stolen recovered cars. The car doesn't need a VIC check to go back on the road.

Cat C is where the cost of repair is greater than the value of the vehicle (using main dealer new parts). As with Cat D the car is reparable, but it can't be used on the road until a VIC check has been passed.
A VIC check is only a Vehicle Identity Check it has nothing to do with looking at the repair

waste of fooking time

Its about time ALL damaged cars has a quality of repair check before they can go back on the road
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that has been for sale ages, i remember pondering on going to look at it a long time ago.
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
A VIC check is only a Vehicle Identity Check it has nothing to do with looking at the repair

waste of fooking time

Its about time ALL damaged cars has a quality of repair check before they can go back on the road
100 % agreed paul
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
A VIC check is only a Vehicle Identity Check it has nothing to do with looking at the repair

waste of fooking time

Its about time ALL damaged cars has a quality of repair check before they can go back on the road
whats the test that kit cars have to go through when they are build and 1st registered? There strict me mate had a nightmare geting his through and it was proper trivial stuff, like really trivial
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES

Its about time ALL damaged cars has a quality of repair check before they can go back on the road
totally agree

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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
A VIC check is only a Vehicle Identity Check it has nothing to do with looking at the repair

waste of fooking time

Its about time ALL damaged cars has a quality of repair check before they can go back on the road
totally agree with you paul

then hopefully it scares all these folk away that are giving write offs a bad name and i can start making some money of them again as you used to be able to do years ago
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Originally Posted by fordrs2005
totally agree with you paul

then hopefully it scares all these folk away that are giving write offs a bad name and i can start making some money of them again as you used to be able to do years ago

This is exactly the reason people run a mile from cars on the register

Anyone can buy a damaged car and put it back on the road

Years ago a car on the register sold quite easily as people who knew what they were doing bought them to fix

A car on the list was no big deal until plasterers / and butchers started buying them to fix , now nobody wants an ex damaged car
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
whats the test that kit cars have to go through when they are build and 1st registered? There strict me mate had a nightmare geting his through and it was proper trivial stuff, like really trivial

that would be an SVA test
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
that would be an SVA test
Now the IVA test which I believe is more stringent than the SVA....
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urm ok i think my point was she has been for sale for fecking ages least a year and a half and i remember it being 17k so it has not sold at 17k now he is asking for 24k i dont think he has got the general idea with the car lol
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
A VIC check is only a Vehicle Identity Check it has nothing to do with looking at the repair

waste of fooking time

Its about time ALL damaged cars has a quality of repair check before they can go back on the road
Totally. I took mine for a VIC before I'd actually fixed it. I just limped it there, collected the certificate, and drove it home.
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510 @ wheels from a basic reconditioned T4 seems a bit hopefull, still a cool car though.
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