clarkson on top gear in the mid 90's, putting the cossie to the test with some no mark toyota

http://www.maxrevs.co.uk/cars/ford/s...?videoId=16187

 

He said it came down to price and the "no mark" Celica won the rally championship, the Cosworth did not.

 

Unsure about you 'no mark' comment tbh.

 

didnt toyota get banded from rallying for cheating. Wasnt it something to do with the turbo pipe/intake.

 

Yes, they we're banded

 

Where is the rest of that video! i wanna see more

 

i don't know i was just looking at stuff on the net and came across it, might be on youtube using the same title

 

PMSL @ 'no mark' Celica...

I've owned 2 of these 'no mark' Celicas, one of which, I owned twice it was so good. They're absolutely fabulous, more robust and better built than an Impreza/Evo of the same period, transmission which will take an absolute battering (Fensport used standard GT4 transmission in their 200mph/10-second Corolla) and the engines are easy to get to c300bhp in the same way the Cosworth is.

Plus, if you get a late-spec version without the mental rear spoiler, they're actually reasonably anonymous too so you don't get much hassle from either tossers in blue or tossers in shitbox shopping cars wanting to race you.





Cheers,
Grant

 

Grant, have you had a escort cossie? If so what one would you have? To me i cant believe people had these! Probably a good car but the front puts me right off with them lights. I even saw one today when i was out.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-55Rzedt04

You were saying?

 

We were sayin? what on earth did they say lol

 

I've never owned an Escort Cossie mate, been in a couple, came close once.. and have wanted one since they were launched though!!

Buy a good example and neither of these cars will lose you any money these days IMO. Doesn't matter if you spend 4k on a ST205 or spend 14k on an Escos, you'll get it back.

My choice would really depend on what I wanted from a car at the time.

If I wanted something that I could use 365days a year, would do high 12s/low 13s on the quarter mile and I could thump around Knockhill relentlessly and know it's not going to cause me any major issues then I'd go for a lightly modified Celica.

If I wanted a car that I could stick in my garage and look at through the winter and take out in the evenings and weekends when the weather was better.. would likely cause me grief (even just small niggly things) at some point, but would make my heart rate increase each time I looked at it, then I'd go for an Escort running Stage 3 power.


Cheers,
Grant

 

Wow Toyota got thrown out of the Word Rally Championship ?

that must mean they were cheating fucking bastards then surely ? and if they never cheated the honest bunch at Ford they would of won i guess.

Its leaves a bad taste in the mouth like shit sushi when a World Wide company like Toyota cheats to win

 

The japanese teams had like 3 times the budget ford could ever manage with the Cosworth, read it in a book by Graham Robson, would still prefer an escort cos any day of the week.

 

Yea, IIRC it was to do with the restrictor in the intake... under inspection, all looked normal, when everything was put back together it would remove the restriction required on WRC cars and give them an unfair advantage.

It wasn't just cheating, it was an extremely well engineered piece of cheating.


Cheers,
Grant

 

just seems a bit odd praising a toy-ota on a ford forum

 

Oops, my bad... not sure what I was thinking, if I caused you any distress or upset then I apologise tommytwotanks.


Cheers,
Grant


p.s: Ford cars are the best and everything else is the worst.

 

not a problem, just keep your foot down, and the bar stewards wont catch you

 

that was filmed not far from me in a place called Avebury

skip to 2.35 of the clip

same as