xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

thats cool, so say you start off witha standard version, what good upgrades will be worth doing, does milage really matter on cars like this?

do you need to have them remapped etc once you start changing bits, who can do this aswell

any forums i can go take a butchers looking at

Martyn

Start with a custom remap, MRC in banbury will then tweek it for a small price unless you change the injectors. Exhaust, brakes, filter, fmic, then next stage is turbos really. That would give you about 350bhp on stock turbos.

Bahnstorm in Northampton are also experts on them, he does all my work.

Mileage isnt a problem as long as the turbos havent had to put up with boost leaks for long. Ideally you want as low as you can afford, personally I wouldnt want to go for anything over 110k, but there are plenty that are running 150k+ on factory turbos.

Join up on www.audisrs.com thats the biggest B5 S/RS4 forum

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

i know what you mean about turbos, and im confident enough to take engines out no matter what car it is, so proberbly best to try and find one thats had turbos replaced for ko4s then or a cheap one with turbos blown lol

problem is most are over 100k now by the looks of things, ill take a look on the website aswell thanks

Martyn

If you are happy to do the turbos yourself then its not really an issue, as its labour that is the big sting!
There is one on pistonheads at the moment thats got new k03's and other mods for a decent price, or a one with a spec similar to mine for 8.5k.

If you are not too bothered about the turbos going you could take a gamble for a really cheap one and run it till they pop and then upgrade to k04.
My mate in Northampton wants about 3500 for his, its priced low due to having 185k on the clock, but its a very tidy Nogaro blue avant

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

yeah 8.5k will be way out my budget lol

id rather start with a standard one or slightly modded and do it myself and go from there

it will be an everyday car you see as ill have my cossie for weekends

Martyn

You wont need the cossie once you get some power in it
Strong 4x4, no rust or rot, every day usable power, all the toys, leather, climate control etc etc, what more do you need?

I still love cossies, but would NEVER bother getting another now Ive got the S4

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

i know what you mean lol, but i have to finish my escos off, im not quitting on it now, the sierra i think im just gona get finished and fuk off now, but i got my st24 i can sell and i can get the rest by selling some shit i dont need anymore to get the audi, then ill sell the sierra

Fil

Www.rs246.com is also has a good forum worth looking at

Martyn

Most of the B5 lot are on audisrs these days

Martyn

This would be a very good buy

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2366104.htm

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

cheers fil will take alook there aswell

is teh avant the estate?

Martyn

Yeah Avant = estate

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

is there much difference in performance betweem the saloon and estate? as estate would be better suited for me

MadMac

Right just looked at insurance quotes for an S4 and

They ranged from Ł2,300 to Ł13,500

Think I'm going to have to downgrade!

Whats the top of the line A4 or A6?

Fil

Most places quote 0-60 5.6 or 5.7 for either and both are limited ( if not delimited / remaped ) to 155, think they quote 167 unlimited.

how old or big are the kids then? as they dont have the best of rear leg room

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

i carnt see it being anymore than a cossie

at the minuete im insuring a fully modded xr4x4 with cossie running gear in and a mondeo st24 lol

Fil

dunno your age or ncb and convictions, but that does seem high ( i know insurance has gone up )

but had mine insured with www.noeldazely.co.uk and also good old adrainflux.

MadMac

To be honest I think its just me that is bumping up the insurance prices seeing as I live in an area of London with the 3rd highest crime rate and only have 1 years no claims

Martyn

Admiral are good for modded S4's, or check Sky Insurance on audisrs, you get a discount with them.

Avant performance is as good as the same as the saloon.
When remapped the 155 limiter is removed, mine is good for about 180

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

no kids but need a work horse to pick stuff up so i can build the escos lol

Fil

Avant all the way then, and replace the s4 badge on the back with a TD one

Martyn

No need for that, keep the S4 one, no one knows what they are anyway

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

nice idea lol

time to start sorting what cars to sell now and go buy one decent one

are rs4 parts esaily available, like turbos, exhaust, coolers, etc or is it just a case of waiting for them to pop up on ebay

Martyn

You're better off buying new genuine k04 turbos, but NOT the cheap chinese copies, they are shit.
All other parts are easily available, there are always RS4 owners upgrading, and at worst, ebay.de has tons on there.

If you can afford it, get a facelift, there are tons of changes

Fil

True most people think they run 1.8T lumps

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

what year was facelift? and what did they do different

Martyn

It came in around half way through '99 with some cross overs that had a mix of both.
Full facelifts are from early 2000.

There are loads of changes, off the top of my head:

Door handles
Washer jets hidden on FL, on bonnet on pre
Boot lid handle
Rear number plate recess
Rear bumper
Buttons on dash
Climate control unit
Digital clock on FL, analogue on pre
Ambient down lighting on facelift on gearstick area and rear seat
Exhaust manifolds (important one, as early pre cars can break up and damage turbos)
Headlamps and indicators are one unit on FL, seperate on pre
ESP (traction control) on FL
S4 badge logo
Side repeaters
Rear lights
Vented rear discs on FL
Turbo oil feed pipes improved
Steering, suspension and other tweeks

I think thats about it!

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

thats cool, some changes then lol

Turbo Transit

There were no "cross over" cars.

ESP and digital clock happened early 2000, because they werent actually part of the facelift. Badge was later still, perhaps even 2001?

Everything else you mentioned will be present on all facelift cars. They started around april/may 1999.

Martyn

There are people on audisrs with different mixtures of certain bits.
My 2000 X reg has the new badges

carcollector

i had 1 before ESP, and it was an awesome car. hate the electronic mother....

Martyn

You can turn the ESP on or off on the dash, best of both worlds

oibren85

I've got my 1998 s4 up for sale soon, ite done 150k but solid as a rock and goes like a steam train.