Good call .

 

Yawn yawn........

 

We can still go back to the original plan Rod I'm going with the GTX35 for now, should be good to go by may

 

can u guys not run without mark being there if they are set up ready to go

 

Short Answer is no, Long answer is also no .

We are talking going for records Andy not just hacking down a runway for fun. Mark could give me a safe map & yes the current Topspeed record would be beaten im sure but to max out a car means running on the ragged edge, hence mapping on the day.
If i was doing this just for a laugh i could run 200mph very easily in fact my Missus could run that speed but its a bit more serious im afraid this is last throw of the dice & i need 213+ to give the next generation something very very difficult to beat. It will never be easy to run 900+bhp the length of Brunters, in fact my car might not acheive it & im very aware of that. However im a trier Andy .

 

I did 158mph at Brunters a few years ago in the damp at just over half distance as I backed off, I lost a front indicator and the noise it made as it hit the rear door made me shit myself!

 

Couldn't you just attend this and do it for the fun of it, and then do the serious record attempt later, when Mark is available?

All the time, money and PF banter of making the thing should surely want doing more than one top speed attempt. Seems a bit of a waste to not actually use it for what it was built for and have some fun at the same time.

 

"fun" at that level doesnt come cheap though. And it's only fun when you really want to be there.

And when you have a goal in sight, simply going to run say 20-30mph down on that goal just for fun. Well, it isnt that much fun.

You have to weigh up the risks and costs involved. And often it isnt worth it. Especially with the current climate.
TBH, a cheap trackday car which you could thrash all day and not give a damn about it would be more fun that some of the fastest cars.

It might sound all wrong, but thats just the truth.

 

Although I do see your points, and they are valid to some degree, at the same time, I just can't see the point in doing it if that's the case.

To have spent all these years developing the car to such a high level, Rod clearly isn't short of a bob or two, and having mentioned hiring Brunters himself, that suggests he can afford to splash out a bit.

I suppose my point is that if he doesn't find it fun, even at a few MPH less than the target, and the car basically gets wound up fully once or twice, on one day, just to achieve one figure well, it does beg the question, what was the point?

Obviously it's Rod's car, and Rod's money, but to spend all that time and money, to drive it at full attack maybe once or twice, or even have someone else drive it, seems a bit of a waste to me. A car is for driving at the end of the day. Obviously his outlook is probably slightly different to mine, but to have all that money tied up in something, and to use it for it's intended purpose once, seems a bit pointless somehow.

Although it's mostly down to other people bickering and gossiping more than Rod himself, the car is forever being talked up, but sadly doesn't seem to move an awful lot.

I'll openly admit that I don't always see eye-to-eye with Rod, and do disagree with some things he says, but I do hugely respect the cars achievements, and the amount of work that he, MAD and others have put into it. I'd just like to see it actually move a bit more and actually get out there and show what it's capable of, rather than being sat in a garage/workshop waiting to be used once and then, most likely, broken up.

 

Many people would like a lot of things...doesnt mean it's going to happen lol.

There are plenty of people who build cars, then never drive them or just sell them.

And I doubt you do understand the costs and commitment involved in such a car. And I'd say it could almost be perceived as rude implying that a person is loaded because they have worked long and hard to build a car to a certain level.

My car has cost me a clean fortune over the years, and that's with zero labour costs as I do all my own work. I'm certainly not loaded. If I had invested the money in houses, I probably would be loaded now !!

I would love to do more racing, but the bottom line is I simply cant afford to. So I'm very selective about the events I do go to. Not only ones that will be enjoyable for myself racing. But also ones I'd enjoy going to to see the other cars at.

Although for the event in question, I have no desire whatsover to race for 1.5 miles for two reasons.
1....if my car cant achieve xyz over the standard of 1 standing mile....Ive little interest.
2....holding a car at such speeds over such a distance. Is fucking dangerous ! More so as they were never designed for it on many counts.

The difference in respect required for say a 170mph car and a 200mph capable car....is astronomical.

 

And this is why I need a supra single turbo now and not sometime in the next 10 years

 

Just do it then !!! Fuel etc isnt getting any cheaper. And owning any sort of car will just get harder with our anti-motorist government and society.

 

I priced it all up once and for the spec I want i need Ł110k + the car.

 

And that's without any development costs lol

 

Im having fun mate try keeping up with me. Its my road car thats what its built for not doing 215mph on a daily basis .
Im well past running 200mph for fun unless 213 is on the cards its simply not worth the time. Please Please remember im 65 not 25 or even 55 big difference in my attitude now to 5 years ago. Its only a waste if i deem it so, lets see what you are calling fun at my age . 3 oaps on this site amongst 20k members so just remember that when you suggest i might think like a youngster I DONT.

 

i know your point is a fair one rod its a lot to risk as you are going to give it all up if some thing went wrong and it couldent be fixed it would be game over before you have done what you set out to do!

 

There arent any really. full 5" (yes, 5) exhaust from turbo back, and either T4 or T6 turbo, dont think id want to run T6 on the road so T4 like a GT45R would do the job nicely. Should be knocking on the door of 1300hp with that (USA dyno figures) then add nitrous.

Most expensive part is the block rebuild and stroker kits from titan.

 

USA dyno figures... hmmmmmm lol

 

I'm sure it could also be perceived as rude, not to mention a bit arrogant, to assume I know nothing at all about what goes into creating such a car

Like I said, it was my opinion. To me it seems a waste of time it barely gets used. Rod is fully entitled to do as he pleases with the car, and I have no doubt at all that he will. I was simply stating that it seems a shame, not to mention a bit of a waste, to have all that time, money and effort sitting doing nothing and only used once or twice to its full potential.

It was an opinion, nothing more.

 

I don't think my current student budget would allow such things Though even if it would, I doubt I would, as top speed doesn't really interest me that much. As I said in another post, I'm sure your outlook is different to mine and many others on here, and I'm sure you'll take no heed of what I say, which is entirely fair.

I didn't suggest doing it infinitely, but just doing it once seems a bit odd, or just trying on one occassion seems to be putting all your eggs in one basket somehow. Perhaps that just comes down to where our outlooks differ.

Though I am interested in one point you made; when you say it was built as a road car? If that's genuinely the case, why on earth has it ended up like it has? If it was built as a fast road car, I'm sure it wouldn't be anything like that, but a responsive build, with power that could be used on the road, as I'm sure it can barely use the grunt it has. I can't imagine you could go anywhere near full throttle for any length of time

A case of each to their own I'm sure.

 

Rods car run 2.8bar every time its driven so its not realy a waste its only run on race fuel and nos at these events.

Mark

 

Glad you agree it's boring too.

 

My engine is exactly what i want in my road car, the Turbo isnt though & that will change very soon after a last bash at the Topspeed record.
The Quest for 850bhp (to set an off Nitrous record past 208 ) has meant using the current GTX42. It will be replaced by a Borg Warner currently being tested, it will lose a 100bhp & gain 700rpm in spool. Power past 800 is very hard to achieve without lag. My 640bhp engine on a GT35 was a mega road engine the Borg will spool quicker & kick out over 720bhp on pump that will be devastating cant wait.

 

you coming over bonnie scotland on sun stevie?

your car always made me laugh at how fast it shifts up the 1/4

 

What's on Sunday ?

Car's in bits at the minute. Making some changes and sadly rust is appearing, so needing to remedy that.

Fuckin old bits of shit lol

 

can you not go then without mark holding your hand lol

 

Stevie its the Performance Ford mag day at Crail

 

might be old bit of shit but fast for a brick

 

performance ford mag day at crail,dont think the rwd class ever gets a chance when the old mk2 is out

 

Maybe try and get over towards the end of the year. It isnt grippy, but it's a nice place to be

 

My method has been proved to be sucessfull over the years.
Why not enter yourself my spot is still open but remember big talk & bullshit stops when you line up at Brunters .

 

Is this car ever going to run rod ? fuck me im going grey waiting

 

Carlo would Andys mate with the green EsCos not be up for this, be worth it to see the look on a "supercar" drivers face as he passes with that plate on it

 

No mate that green escort is sold now to another lad ! it was only 660 bhp not enough to compete with the rodster ! still a quick track car tho

 

Was class seeing it round knockhill and just had to love the plate. What's Andy racing now, know he entered a couple of rally's?

 

Andrew is rallying now , charlie has the carbon focus thats went under a good few mods for this race season including a girdle sump ! its ready for race season & think he is going to crail with it i spoke to him 10 mins ago n forgot to ask. his old 700 + mk2 focus has been sold & is now focus rs green looking mint you will see that at knockhill alot this year.,

 

Just spoke to charlie he is going & wanting to get into the low 9's at crail this weekend

 

Carlo get some pics up

 

Yes it will but life is not all about cars. Those close know ive been diagnosed with Cancer, its not that serious but still a worry. I am going for an op & hopefully thats the end of it. Im also in for another op on a non cancerous growth in my mouth. These are rather more a priority than a Topspeed attempt .
The problem is mags no longer will do these runs so you have to hire Brunters & the safety crew & im not prepared to do that untill im sure any dates are going to happen. Could go with Ade & share the costs which suggests end of April.
We had hoped to run before the op at Vmax but Mark is away on his hols so its a non starter.

 

Shit rod sorry to hear that & that would take priority obviously ! Does it need to be a ford mag or is there a magazine that the porker lads use that you could join in ?