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Old 16-02-2011, 06:07 PM
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truth about ferrari, well worth a read.

http://ca.jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins
Old 16-02-2011, 06:19 PM
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SOOOOOOOOO much to read. Can you tell me in 10 words what its about?
Old 16-02-2011, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Eigdoog
SOOOOOOOOO much to read. Can you tell me in 10 words what its about?
Basically its a article from a jurno who is ranting about Ferrari and how they give car reviewers tuned cars and not the ones they sell to customers.

Quite shocking really. Looks like they cheat as much in their road cars as they do in F1..
Old 16-02-2011, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MadMac
Basically its a article from a jurno who is ranting about Ferrari and how they give car reviewers tuned cars and not the ones they sell to customers.

Quite shocking really. Looks like they cheat as much in their road cars as they do in F1..
If thats the top and bottom of it,saved me reading it lets see how they get on in 24 days time.
Old 16-02-2011, 11:25 PM
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well after reading it i have no problem with Ferrari setting up a car for a particular track,after all if their cars come with adjustable suspension then so be it.......
But if they are deliberately tuning so called production cars to fool journalist into thinking its what you get from the show room then i would have the raving horrors if id just forked out xyz because the mags said so,plus those mags would be boycotted immediately too,now im wondering what conditions top gear has to follow before they can 'evaluate' them..........you live and learn.......
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What an angry fella.

Ferrari are good are marketing, so are lots of other successful companies, I really am amazed that surprises him so much.
Old 17-02-2011, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
What an angry fella.

Ferrari are good are marketing, so are lots of other successful companies, I really am amazed that surprises him so much.
Yeah he seems very VERY angry . He is lucky to of had the chance to drive so many models over the years.
Old 17-02-2011, 06:43 AM
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It's Chris Harris, not a surprise he's in rant mode. There's reasons why he's a freelance these days...

Anyway press fleet is very rarely 'standard', just isn't worth the risk. I think if you check out the build/options history on most of the Fords you see in the magazines you'll see special options relating to stuff like Marketing. And things like RS models where the press cars were a separate build run obviously give something to think about.
Old 17-02-2011, 07:02 AM
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He's a great Journo, enjoyed his stuff for years, I dont think its the tweaked cars he minds as much as the control Ferarri wish to exert on the press

He's just bought a GT3 anyway
Old 17-02-2011, 07:43 AM
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Point two: the internet is good for three things: free porn, Jalopnik and spreading information". point made. game. set. match. apparently you win at the internet.
Old 17-02-2011, 09:56 AM
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I like Chris Harris and found that a good read
Old 17-02-2011, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Neil@FastFord
I like Chris Harris and found that a good read
+1, Agreed
Old 17-02-2011, 10:35 AM
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+2, it was nice to read the other side of it.

As for not 'allowing' members of the press to drive a rari as and when one gets the opportunity...!?

Tom
Old 17-02-2011, 11:00 AM
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Chris Harris is my fav journo!!!

awesome rant. Its been building up for ages... if anyone has been follwoing the 'story' building in EVO and Autocar.

I think Ferrari ARE kinda shooting themselves in the foot.... The cars are AMAZING now. Just amazing. They don't need to control the media and should just let the cars do the talking.

Chris says so himself in his rant
Of course their attempts to stop me makes it an even better sport and merely hardens my resolve, but the sad thing is its cars are so good it doesn't need all this shite. I'll repeat that for the benefit of any vestige of a chance I might have of ever driving a Ferrari press car ever again (which is virtually none). "Its cars are so good it doesn't need this shite."

Most manufacturers do this.... anyone remember the Skoda Octavia press car that Autocar tested back in the day? clearly had around 300bhp from the times it was doing!!!
Old 17-02-2011, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Most manufacturers do this.... anyone remember the Skoda Octavia press car that Autocar tested back in the day? clearly had around 300bhp from the times it was doing!!!
Or the E type jag that did 150mph in journo testing. They suggest it had Lemans D type heads. It worked & started the 150mph car myth.
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Originally Posted by MadRod
Or the E type jag that did 150mph in journo testing. They suggest it had Lemans D type heads. It worked & started the 150mph car myth.
yep, been going on for years. Wasnt journos testing was it??

Was Jaguar. cheating gits!

It need racing Aero body, racing tyres, special engine, special fuel etc etc!
Old 17-02-2011, 11:49 AM
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They all do it tho, as others have said, one that sticks in my mind was the rover montego turbo, that they wound the boost up on 6 press cars, that didnt last too long
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It does happen, it shouldn't, but it does.

I don't think the main issue is with car makers being a bit sneaky and underhand here, more their relentless and overbearing control of everything.
Old 17-02-2011, 03:09 PM
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I thought it was a very good read and also like his articles.

Mike
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Originally Posted by MadMac
Basically its a article from a jurno who is ranting about Ferrari and how they give car reviewers tuned cars and not the ones they sell to customers.

Quite shocking really. Looks like they cheat as much in their road cars as they do in F1..
Similar to what Lotus did many years ago. The press cars were 'specially' set up cars for this purpose. The Elan Sprint was claimed to produce circa 128 brake, was nowhere near this figure.

Cheers,

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Interesting read. I recall reading before motoring journos saying they drove Fiesta RS turbos and MG Maestro turbos with insane amount of torque steer. Clearly modded but I guess that's the name of the game.

I, like others read Harris' feature as a rant about the control they are trying to impose as much as anything else. Upping the boost on a press car is one thing, taking 2 cars down to a track the day before a test drive is something else IMO!
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