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Old 14-02-2011, 06:37 PM
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Are you sure it isn't anything to do with the standard ford radiator Steve
Old 14-02-2011, 06:38 PM
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your that tight you will let msd supply another 3 switches before you admit your radiator has a problem ! best thing they can do is refund you for the switch you bought
Old 14-02-2011, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
Well let me try it in mine then.

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You cant, the wires are soldered to the pins

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Old 14-02-2011, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
The rad is 8 years old.

Why would the 3 switches you sent me all show different temps ? They was tested in my car a couple of times and each switch performed the same on each test.

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In a partially blocked radiator the switch is not in contact with flowing water, its in static water as it is always the lowest 4 to 6 cores that block as a rule.
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Did James get time to test the switches ?

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Old 14-02-2011, 08:47 PM
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dont argue with the tuning gods
Old 14-02-2011, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mrviper
dont argue with the tuning gods



Test the switches I say
Old 14-02-2011, 08:58 PM
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Am i missing summit.......... 3 new sensors work totally different??? If the Rads blocked, then why do the sensors all read different? surely if sensors are in the same place and in the same rad, they would read the same???? weather rad is blocked or not?
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Am i missing summit.......... 3 new sensors work totally different??? If the Rads blocked, then why do the sensors all read different? surely if sensors are in the same place and in the same rad, they would read the same???? weather rad is blocked or not?
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Originally Posted by dannyblackpool
Am i missing summit.......... 3 new sensors work totally different??? If the Rads blocked, then why do the sensors all read different? surely if sensors are in the same place and in the same rad, they would read the same???? weather rad is blocked or not?

Likewise, how can a car with an 82 degree thermostat possibly have enough coolant flow through a radiator to keep the fans on at under 70 degs? The thermostat is closed well before that temp so the radiator is not even part of the cooling system lol
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Steve,
No, that car wont be running for days.

Originally Posted by dannyblackpool
Am i missing summit
Yes, the non linear equation here is called "Convection" and the answer will be totally dependant on various other conditions due to the very simple fact that we are attempting to measure the temperature of static water via some neighboring flowing water. Pointless.

The fact is though, nobody knows if these 3 switches even work or not, all we know is we have sold over 600, and had only one back.(To my knowledge) Steve then gets three, and none of them work. I have since sold a few, and all to my knowledge work.

Maybe Steve really is that unlucky? Maybe hes not and the rad is knackered? Maybe the switches only work in real Cosworths? Nobody knows... but what we DO all surely know for sure is that a few quid switch is not worth a 54 page internet discussion chaps. Especially on Valentines night.. LOL
Old 14-02-2011, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Steve,
Maybe the switches only work in real Cosworths? Nobody knows...

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Old 15-02-2011, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Steve,
No, that car wont be running for days.

Maybe the switches only work in real Cosworths?


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Old 15-02-2011, 06:21 AM
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Fucking Lol.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Maybe the switches only work in real Cosworths?
Absolute classic

Steve get your wallet out it's rad upgrade time
Old 15-02-2011, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
Absolute classic

Steve get your wallet out it's rad upgrade time
Stu's comment made me laugh as well.

Why should i change the rad ?, i have no overheating issues with it at all.

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Old 15-02-2011, 06:58 AM
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had this problem on my escort and it was the rad i took the fan switch out and all the cores were blocked to as far as i could see new spec-r rad sorted it
Old 15-02-2011, 07:07 AM
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Well on mine as soon as you crack the switch water starts coming out, so if it is blocked its not the switch end

Anybody know a good rad flush treatment

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Old 15-02-2011, 07:08 AM
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More money
Old 15-02-2011, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
Well on mine as soon as you crack the switch water starts coming out, so if it is blocked its not the switch end
Of course it does!
Best you google how radiators work mate as I dont have time to explain right now, although others may.
Old 15-02-2011, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Steve,
No, that car wont be running for days.



Yes, the non linear equation here is called "Convection" and the answer will be totally dependant on various other conditions due to the very simple fact that we are attempting to measure the temperature of static water via some neighboring flowing water. Pointless.

The fact is though, nobody knows if these 3 switches even work or not, all we know is we have sold over 600, and had only one back.(To my knowledge) Steve then gets three, and none of them work. I have since sold a few, and all to my knowledge work.

Maybe Steve really is that unlucky? Maybe hes not and the rad is knackered? Maybe the switches only work in real Cosworths? Nobody knows... but what we DO all surely know for sure is that a few quid switch is not worth a 54 page internet discussion chaps. Especially on Valentines night.. LOL

That does still not answer why every individual switch does the same each time, and his original switch is still the same to this day!

Maybe try sending Steve another?
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Originally Posted by James90RS
Maybe try sending Steve another?
I have gone above and beyond for this individual issue now, sending two extras out on next day delivery at my cost. We are running at a big enough loss with this job as it is and wont be sending any extra ones out. Steve is welcome to bring his car here so we can look at the issue.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
I have gone above and beyond for this individual issue now, sending two extras out on next day delivery at my cost. We are running at a big enough loss with this job as it is and wont be sending any extra ones out. Steve is welcome to bring his car here so we can look at the issue.
What at about £75 each way in fuel, then im sure you would charge me for looking at the car, i think not lol

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I have already said i recieved great serive from MSD sending out replacment switches next day, i thank you for that.

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Old 15-02-2011, 07:48 AM
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whilst your making a brew stu just bung one in the kettle and test it please before we get to 50 pages
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Originally Posted by carlo
your that tight you will let msd supply another 3 switches before you admit your radiator has a problem ! best thing they can do is refund you for the switch you bought
Stu hope you didnt miss this post from me
Old 15-02-2011, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by carlo
Stu hope you didnt miss this post from me
No mate,
That up to Steve. We have already offered a refund and he has refused it pending the results of the fan switch testing.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Steve,
Maybe the switches only work in real Cosworths?
Thats go to be the best quote on passion ford

I would go with teh rad seeing as I have had exactly the same thing happen on my old escos....

we gave up at two fan switches though. Flushed rad many times...

Nothing until new rad then worked perfect.

Come to think of it same thing happened on my first saff too!!!!
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