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Old 26-01-2011, 11:31 PM
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Question MK2 XR2 or MK4 XR3i?

Hey Guys,

I'm looking at getting either a Fiesta XR2 or Escort XR3i (MFI cause I've heard they are better than the EFI) and I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on either one to go for? It's not for uber modding just for getting around in (or i would have gone for the RS Turbo). Does the XR2 come as an XR2i?

Also, would it be better to insure them with a classic specific insurer like Adrian Flux or do a normal Aviva jobby?
Old 27-01-2011, 12:45 AM
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xr3i all day long lol well fiestas are fun but i prefer any mk4 escort tbh. i aint a clue on insurance on clasic u are limited on milage but dnt hold me to that.
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XR2 for me, the XR2i is the mk3

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I would say you have a far better chance at finding a half decent mk4 xr3i than a mk2 xr2, but even they are few and far between. I would say the 3i is slighly more refined as a daily too. Check for rust, rust and more rust! They do have a habbit of looking ok from the outside but once you start proding and poking things usually end up in tears on any mk4 lol! What is your budget? As for the EFi thing, if you find one in good running order then it's the one to go for IMO.
Old 27-01-2011, 04:25 AM
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I would rather have the mk4 xr3i escort. Ive had 2 of these over the years.
Old 27-01-2011, 04:29 AM
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I always thought the EFI's were better than the MFI's. Werent the last of the XR3i's EFI? Did they make a escort RS turbo in efi? Im sure they didnt.
Old 27-01-2011, 04:41 AM
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No Glenn, but the Fiesta Turbo's were EFI
Old 27-01-2011, 05:07 AM
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the efi is better on the turbo but xr3i's and orion suffer problems with it wilst the mfi is alittle more reliable.....

but for me i would have a mk2 xr2 as its alot more fun to drive but make sure the carb is in good nick as they suffer rust everywhere...
Old 27-01-2011, 05:34 AM
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xr2 had 4 off the little buggers so much fun
Old 27-01-2011, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary F
No Glenn, but the Fiesta Turbo's were EFI
Yeh i thought that was right. Im almost sure the did an efi xr3i.
Old 27-01-2011, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Glenn.
Yeh i thought that was right. Im almost sure the did an efi xr3i.
the last of the mk4 xr3i's where efi mate
Old 27-01-2011, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by viowithcrailtap
Hey Guys,

I'm looking at getting either a Fiesta XR2 or Escort XR3i (MFI cause I've heard they are better than the EFI) and I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on either one to go for? It's not for uber modding just for getting around in (or i would have gone for the RS Turbo). Does the XR2 come as an XR2i?

Also, would it be better to insure them with a classic specific insurer like Adrian Flux or do a normal Aviva jobby?
Hi mate you can get classic insurance on both and go for either one.
Old 27-01-2011, 09:53 AM
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The EFi XR3i is identical mechnanically to the XR2i Fiesta. The EFi was only really problematic on the Webber ISCV cars, a lot of these were sorted under wwarantee by Ford. The Hitachi valve sorted the issue. My old XR2i got a kicking all the time and never put a foot wrong up until a mong drove into the back of it.

imho I would take a Mk2 XR2 over a Mk4 XR3i as they are a lot more fun but they are also a lot more crude and have a Mechano feel to their build.
Old 27-01-2011, 10:27 AM
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Ive got both (well, ones a mk1 xr2) and the fiesta is sooo much better than the 3i!! Dont get me wrong, i love me 3i but its jus not as cool as the fiesta!! I only bought the 3i cos it was stupidly cheap, has done alrite but its got recaros, s1 wheels, and its had 2 engines!! The one in it is about to die as well so will be engine number 3!!

Mine is mfi and a mate as a efi 3i, his one is alot quicker, and 100 times better on fuel!!
Old 27-01-2011, 11:44 AM
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Obv il say xr2 but xr3is really are great cars too, wou won't go wrong in either
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XR3i but -----> MK3
Old 27-01-2011, 03:04 PM
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both equally good, 3i is slightly more practical and cheaper to buy usually
Old 27-01-2011, 04:33 PM
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Buy a mk1 xr2 or a mk3 3i. its the only sensible thing to do in my opinion lol
Old 27-01-2011, 05:19 PM
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i have both xr2 and xr3i. rather my xr3i if it was to be my daily.
but the xr2 is great fun, and easy to drive when just using for A to B.

TBA it would be hard to pick one over the other. xr2 seems a lot better on juse tought.

Also my RS Firsta, EFI, is by far the best drive, more comfort, good on fuel driving right.
id imagine the xr2i would be much the same drive, i think it would make a far better daily out of the 3.

Also xr2i was 1.6 CVH 89>94
mid 94>95 they were 1.8L 16v efi
Old 27-01-2011, 05:28 PM
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Had the x2 and later an x3 both good fun but the x3 handled better
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Right ok, pretty much equal opinions here. My budget is roughly £1500-£2000 at most. I've seen some nice ones for sale but the choice is really hard. An '88 MK4 is an MFI right?

Also is £2000 a lot for a XR2 or 3i?
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Originally Posted by viowithcrailtap
Right ok, pretty much equal opinions here. My budget is roughly £1500-£2000 at most. I've seen some nice ones for sale but the choice is really hard. An '88 MK4 is an MFI right?

Also is £2000 a lot for a XR2 or 3i?

88 is mfi.
2k would get a very good xr2 or 3i tba.

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Originally Posted by Adamkelly
Also xr2i was 1.6 CVH 89>94
mid 94>95 they were 1.8L 16v efi
Close. The 8v CVH's were phased out in 91/92. All 92 onwards were 16v 1800cc Zetec.
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Originally Posted by djmillsy
the last of the mk4 xr3i's where efi mate
I tought they were.
Old 27-01-2011, 10:32 PM
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I drive an mfi xr3i everyday for work. Its a very good car, bit heavy on fuel though but i think it probably just needs setting up.
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xr2 matey
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XR2 for sure? I haven't many if any around so it is kinda getting the vote atm. On insurance do you guys just TPFT or Fully Comp? Might be a stupid question atm but I'm currently driving an '07 Yaris which needed fully comp so I'm not sure about the older car.

So the only things to look out for on the XR2 are rust and check the Carb is clean and rust free?
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Mk1 XR2 or MK3 XR3i
No help am I but they would be my choices.3i would win in a fight off
OK mk2 fez over a mk4 3i and no 2i's either.
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Originally Posted by viowithcrailtap
XR2 for sure? I haven't many if any around so it is kinda getting the vote atm. On insurance do you guys just TPFT or Fully Comp? Might be a stupid question atm but I'm currently driving an '07 Yaris which needed fully comp so I'm not sure about the older car.

So the only things to look out for on the XR2 are rust and check the Carb is clean and rust free?

and try to avoid D reg ones fords used a different metal for these and they rust even worse then the other regs
Old 28-01-2011, 10:42 PM
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xr2 defo hard to find a good one but what old ford aint
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i would get xr2 all day long over an xr3 they drive so much better plus they look the dogs danglies lol!
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I have a mk2 xr2 2.0 zvh turbo and its the business! love it to bits!
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My first car was a h plate xr3i efi with an rs turbo bodykit,apparently it was chipped and it also had a big bore 4 exhaust along with 90 spec recaro interior,and rs turbo wheels,only thing it didn't have were the bonnet louvres,although i always got told nice rs turbo mate and commented on what a nice car it was,it was quicker than my mates 3i mfi even with the oversized exhaust and my clocks showed 130 enough times although they're known to be inaccurate,I loved it too bits,I also went in an xr2i which has the efi engine which was just as quick,depends what body shape u prefer as engine wise there's not alot in it.
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I'm gonna go for an XR2 once I've got the cash together. I'll avoid D reg's and look out for rust everywhere. Is there any spots they are prone to rust (arches etc)?
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Originally Posted by viowithcrailtap
I'm gonna go for an XR2 once I've got the cash together. I'll avoid D reg's and look out for rust everywhere. Is there any spots they are prone to rust (arches etc)?
Inner wings all by battery tray and everywhere, front arches, sills rear arches, boot oh and son forget around the sunroof, pretty much anywhere on the car could be rotten! They are great!!!
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Jokes aside look very carefully and make sure you do lots of prodding and squeezing, when you find a good one you WON'T be disappointed!!!
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i kinda like both
but as an every day car the escort will be more comfortable
but the fiesta is way more fun and never get boring to throw around
so xr2 all the way
just check for rot between the bumpers
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Originally Posted by viowithcrailtap
Right ok, pretty much equal opinions here. My budget is roughly £1500-£2000 at most. I've seen some nice ones for sale but the choice is really hard. An '88 MK4 is an MFI right?

Also is £2000 a lot for a XR2 or 3i?
I've had a mk3 XR3i and a mk2 XR2 and to be honest i preferred the 3i. It seems a slightly more refined car but saying that i still loved the XR2 and it was a great fun car. With a few basic mods the XR2 felt much nippier than the 3i but was not as quick top end.
With your budget i think you will find a better 3i as good XR2s seem to be fetching more money at the moment than 3is.
If i had to pick one i think i would go for the 3i but hopefully you will enjoy owning either. Good luck and put pics up when you get whatever you decide on.
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Originally Posted by STAFFY OWNER
I've had a mk3 XR3i and a mk2 XR2 and to be honest i preferred the 3i. It seems a slightly more refined car but saying that i still loved the XR2 and it was a great fun car. With a few basic mods the XR2 felt much nippier than the 3i but was not as quick top end.
With your budget i think you will find a better 3i as good XR2s seem to be fetching more money at the moment than 3is.
If i had to pick one i think i would go for the 3i but hopefully you will enjoy owning either. Good luck and put pics up when you get whatever you decide on.
What kind of mods did you put on the XR2? I really want an XR2 but as I snowboard the XR3i is looking better for carrying stuff around
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Ive had an MFI XR3i, XR3i Cabrio, XR2 XR2i and out of them

XR3i was a good reliable drive, I really enjoyed having it.

XR3i Cabrio was my fave, handled like a bag of shite in comparison to the rest, but couldn't beat the roof down.

The XR2 was brilliant fun, brilliantly reliable, easy to fix an maintain, but for day to day use was a bit too uncomfortable.

The XR2i for me combined the best of the XR2 and the XR3i.

But in answer to your question, XR2 all day long for something thats just fun.


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