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Old 11-01-2011, 07:01 AM
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Default What coilovers should I get?

Been looking and just wanted some advise from people with experience please.
So should I go gaz or gaz gold or avo or avo gtx?
What's the best for mainly road driving?
And has any one got a set that I could take off their hands
Old 11-01-2011, 07:16 AM
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IMO. If it's road car. Konis and Ahmed springs.
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Yeah but wanted to have options if ever felt like tracking it
Basicly it squats down to hard and with a bit of weight in it can drag it's arse plus could be a bit tighter on cornering
Allready running koni's not sure on springs
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Get the Ahmed track springs. I use my escort on track and that's all I'm using
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i have the gaz ones and they are fine on the road
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Honestly mate I absolutely would NOT recomend coilovers on a road car and I run coilovers on my road car. For mainly road use with the odd bit of track Koni dampers and a good quality spring set would by far be my preferred choice. To be fair my track car does well without coilovers.

The coilovers I have are far from the harshest set I've experienced on a road car but they are still crashy, uncomfortable and due to be replaced.
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
i have the gaz ones and they are fine on the road
Gaz or gaz gold and how much different are they

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I have never seen a set of off the shelf coilovers correctly sprung/damped for road use.
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
I have never seen a set of off the shelf coilovers correctly sprung/damped for road use.

Eibach Pro Street are the only ones i know of.

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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
I have never seen a set of off the shelf coilovers correctly sprung/damped for road use.
That's because there is NO CORRECT setting, way too many factors to take into account, AVO for example will swap FREE OF CHARGE the springs if you want a different rate.
What one person wants another will hate what some people want won't be the best for grip etc etc.
I love my AVO coilovers, people like opposite lock who've been in the car described it as the most comfy cossie they've been in, I run 300lb 9" front and 200lb 12" rear, with 22mm adjustable rear arb.
My advice would be take your time, and try to get rides in cars with different systems, to see what YOU like, ime the koni on fully hard with chassis dynamics(avo) std ride height springs take a lot of beating, for most for the road/occasional track, but as said don't suit all.
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Originally Posted by Rick
Eibach Pro Street are the only ones i know of.

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Originally Posted by tabetha
ime the koni on fully hard with chassis dynamics(avo) std ride height springs take a lot of beating, for most for the road/occasional track, but as said don't suit all.
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This was my other option as already having koni's plus the car is -30mm atm and isn't pratical for central London!
Plus I wanted to start an underside resto so don't wanna be dragging it over bumps when that's been done.
Just thought that standard height would give a lot of roll?
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Originally Posted by tiny2white
Gaz or gaz gold and how much different are they
Gaz gold ones and to me there fine the car sits right and handles very well on the road it also dosent squat any more and feels well positioned and stable on the road its also not that hard and a long way from beng uncomfortable
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Originally Posted by tabetha
That's because there is NO CORRECT setting, way too many factors to take into account, AVO for example will swap FREE OF CHARGE the springs if you want a different rate.
What one person wants another will hate what some people want won't be the best for grip etc etc.

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I think the correct setting for a given piece of road will allow the wheel to be in contact with the tarmac for the maximum time.
There will be spring rates, damping circuits to optimise this and this optimum is the correct settings.

Why would you want it any different, ie harder in most peoples eyes, it will grip less and either oversteer more or understeer more and have less braking grip.

Coilovers are always too hard and overdamped IMO and ruin most roadcars.

If the op is worried about ride height and roll use standard height and stiffen the roll bar.

Coilovers are good for track and altering ride height and front rear balance, but generally compromise the actual suspension part of things
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Coilovers are fine. You just need to get the spring rates right. Go for a set of 2WD Gaz Golds. Tabetha has given you spring rates in his post above: 300lb 9" front and 200lb 12" rear

Set the fronts and rears in the middle on the damping settings. When you do the coilovers add an alloy diff mount as well. Make sure your tyres are OK and the car will be fine.

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Originally Posted by tiny2white
This was my other option as already having koni's plus the car is -30mm atm and isn't pratical for central London!
Plus I wanted to start an underside resto so don't wanna be dragging it over bumps when that's been done.
Just thought that standard height would give a lot of roll?
Too low and you worsen the handling. Standardish is right.

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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
I think the correct setting for a given piece of road will allow the wheel to be in contact with the tarmac for the maximum time.
There will be spring rates, damping circuits to optimise this and this optimum is the correct settings.

Why would you want it any different, ie harder in most peoples eyes, it will grip less and either oversteer more or understeer more and have less braking grip.

Coilovers are always too hard and overdamped IMO and ruin most roadcars.

If the op is worried about ride height and roll use standard height and stiffen the roll bar.

Coilovers are good for track and altering ride height and front rear balance, but generally compromise the actual suspension part of things
Mines fine with coil overs lol
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Originally Posted by Char1ie
Coilovers are fine. You just need to get the spring rates right. Go for a set of 2WD Gaz Golds. Tabetha has given you spring rates in his post above: 300lb 9" front and 200lb 12" rear

Set the fronts and rears in the middle on the damping settings. When you do the coilovers add an alloy diff mount as well. Make sure your tyres are OK and the car will be fine.

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Nice one Charlie but what I wanted to know is what's the difference between the Gaz and Gaz gold? ŁŁŁ
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Originally Posted by tiny2white
Nice one Charlie but what I wanted to know is what's the difference between the Gaz and Gaz gold? ŁŁŁ
Yeah, I saw that but I was responding to your original question. Call Gaz for the answer

I can get you a discounted set of Gaz Gold if you want to PM me.


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I bought coilovers for one of my cars a couple of years ago, and it was a bad idea in retrospect. Lowering springs are what I have used on other cars since. The ride quality is very poor and harsh, although it did handle very well. You jiggle about all over the place which is very annoying when travelling any distance. The novelty soon wears off, I can promise you. Expensive too, as I could have bought 3 or 4 sets of lowering springs for the price of my coilovers.
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
Mines fine with coil overs lol
Mine is fantastic without
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
Mine is fantastic without
well mine will never be fantastic as it a 20 year old sierra lol but coil overs are fine on the road the trick is to set them up right lol There only to hard if set to hard or u have springs that are to hard!
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
well mine will never be fantastic as it a 20 year old sierra lol but coil overs are fine on the road the trick is to set them up right lol There only to hard if set to hard or u have springs that are to hard!
Totally agree with what youre saying about setting them up right, if you get the right poundage springs you'll be better off than most. A nice corner weighting session will make sure the heights/front rear balance.....is adjusted right and just play with the damper settings
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Gaz Gold, perfect all rounder. Normal Gaz coilovers a good but a little harsh, depending what spring though.
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